>Want to buy new PC with new GPU
>Considering either RX 480 Nitro+ (8gb version) OC or some custom GTX 1060, as they cost the same in my country
>Sites like kitguru.net shows that this custom RX from Sapphire ouperform 1060
>...yet when I ask duckduckgo about opinions, people tell others to get 1060 instead, as "it is much better"
I dont know who is right Sup Forums or what the hell is going on. So it is better or not?
Could anybody explain this to me? Or provide some advice?
if you like the noise of a jet get this card
aftermarket 1060 will outperform nitro while being cooler and quieter
Noise is less problem, Im used to have very loud PC (my poor i5-750 CPU and its stock cooler scream every summer since last two years or something).
Could you provide me some graphics? Some kind of info about how much it outperform or something?
i don't think that the shitty intel cooler can even be heard at max load next to these fans, shit's loud when gaming, when browsing g is at 0 rpm
I was building pc for a friend recently, it was gtx1060 Asus strix and man that was epic. Half passive cooling so it's quiet. Played Witcher 3 1080p with almost everything on ultra 60fps GPU fans weren't rotating because temperature was too low 50 sth Celsius. I have amd r9 285 club3d its loud as fuck and drivers are horrible. I'll buy 1060 to when I get money.
AMD is unequivocally superior due to dx12 support. It isn't a debate. You're buying a budget card. Future-proofing is a budget buy.
You can't compare a newer RX 480 with an old R9 285, the technology is new, litography is new, power consumption is much lower...
BTW AMD rarely had problems with GPU burning drivers.
That's true. Nvidia still have struggles with dx12/vulkan support
These cards have dx12 support on the hardware level. Nvidia loses until they release new cards.
>You're buying a budget card.
At the cost of my monthly income.
Im afraid about the direction this industry is heading to.
Back then "budget" card used to cost 1/4 of that price.
Thats about the founders editions. Im asking about overlocked, custom ones.
In fact, I checked review from same time (kitguru.net), funny enough, games were tested with different settings, making it hard to compare each other, but in case of 3DMark, site gives score of 11095 and 11381 score for RX 480 Nitro and 11462 in case of Asus 1060 STRIX OC version.
Difference is minimal, to be honest.
I still dont know what to think about it, honestly.
As well as about the difference in memory size, as some people suggested that some games might refuse to work properly on cards with less than 8gb memory, for unknown reasons.
kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-8gb-review/6/
kitguru.net/components/ryan-martin/asus-gtx-1060-6gb-strix-oc-review/5/
Just get an R9 fury and be done with it.
Same price, half the memory.
I dont make frequent PC upgrades, I dont want to buy card with "just enough" memory for current needs, for the same or little higher price (1500 PLN for me, as opposed to 1400 for RX 480 Nitro+).
When r9 285 was new it too was totally better than old Radeon and yeeeeeaaaa nah. First and last amd I never had such problems with my old gtxs
founders are technically better at overclocking than the aftermarket ones, despite being told they're not binned specially.
it's the same chip and they all throttle down to a lower clock than expected even without hitting high temps
The memory doesn't matter. An inferior card will never outperform a superior card. No game that exists can push 4gb of memory. No game that exists or will ever exist will put either the 1060 or 480 over the r9 fury.
Also, hardware dx12 support means your question is already answered otherwise. AMD has hardware future proofing. The 1060 doesn't. Bye.
480 is better
>nvidia planned gimping
>nvidia gimpworks
>nvidia gimpsync tax
Only to buy premium Nvidia card for get ultimate game experience please. AMD is for the poo in loo Indian!
Please take memes somewhere lease. I just want to get best performance out for that price.
Im using GTX 660 right now. It replaced GTX 460 like 2-3 years ago, I dont remember. I want another card that wont be too bad for next 2-3 years.
Im not aiming at 4k resolutions, to be honest, I still use 1650x1050 monitor. I dont want VR either.
Im not brand loyal too and certanly dont want to ride on emotions.
Future proofing sounds nice, but Im still worried if devs will actually push the DX12 route. I mean, we had DX10 and DX11 which was supposed to be revolution yet most devs would still run on Dx9, because "muh XP". Now it is "muh 7, fuck 10". "10 vs 7" discussions aside, this fragmentation is not working well for industry.
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dont bother with AMD fellow polak. if i had 1600PLN right now to buy a new GPU and having my previous experiences with AMD and Nvidia (i had GTX260 and GTX560 before AMD R9 285) and experience of my friends i would choose the 1060 STRIX right away. literally the only con is lack of DX12 but i think it will be many years until its required also you need Windows 10 to use it and i wont install it.
AMD is slightly cheaper for performance but you have completely inferior customer support and software. It took them OVER two weeks to supply a hotfix for when fan control became completely unresponsive and you had to search their shitty website to find it, installed drivers didnt catch that as a driver. and regarding fan control, my one is still fucked. i tried to fix that with MSI Afterburner and guess what, it resets all my Afterburner settings randomly from time to time, something that never happened with my GTXs.
GTX1060 STRIX
+ superior cooling, its in passive mode most of the time
+ not using a lot of power
+ frequent driver updates
+ most games are optimized for it with nvidia jewworks so you get better performance in-game
- super jew company
- more expensive
- no DX12
RX 480
+ DX12 support
+ slightly stronger
+ cheaper
+ you support the good goys (they are just as jew as nvidia but poorer in reality)
- power consumption
- drivers
- turbojet tier noise
- AMD """""""support"""""""
The RX480 is better, the people saying get the 1060 "it is much better" without any proof to back that up are shills,
also, you ever had some huge problems with your GTXs? i havent and yet switched for AMD, fell for the meme, it wasnt worth it.
500 zlotys have been deposited into your account. Thanks for buying Nvidia!
>links an outlet with a history of nvidia and applel shilling
nice source you got there user
do you people honestly believe that AMD has no shills?
implying anandtech has anything to gain from posting true benches
>b-but amd does it t-too
>Could anybody explain this to me?
gee who knew that some basement-dwelling nobodies would confidently spew that one platform was much better over the internet, based off 3rd hand sources and general hunches rather than actual tests.
Just look around on youtube for people who do reviews of these things or look on benchmark sites.
Buy a new card, new PSU, and either the cheapest case or the meme case (don't remember name), and look on a tech review and resale community (the kind where buyers and sellers review each other) for people trying to sell their mobo+old cpu 'kit' when they upgrade.
AMD "drivers" are so bad that even if you could get a better card from AMD than NVIDIA for the cash you have it's certainly not worth the trouble that AMD drivers will give you over the lifetime of the card. AMD is cheaper purely because they cut corners.
this
2002 wants its memes back
>also, you ever had some huge problems with your GTXs?
Yup, when they almost destroyed my GTX 460 with new drivers. I was just getting frequent bluescreens and drivers crashes, but according to Nvidia own forums, other people were not as "lucky" even suffering physical damage in some cases.
Since then, I had to wait for unofficial community delcaration about latest stable version for certain card.
>also you need Windows 10 to use it and i wont install it
Well, I will, soon. Edu version (fancy named Enterprise) sits on my desk already.
>500 zlotys
Wow, thats 1/3 of minimal wage here, mate.
defiantly not samefagging goyim
>Wow, thats 1/3 of minimal wage here, mate.
Who the fuck would know or care. Just take your shillbucks you fucking fraud.
eh do whatever you like then, i would rather pay more to have nvidia than bother with amd really.
>No game that exists can push 4 GB of memory
This is bullshit and you know it's bullshit, why are you posting outright lies? Some games even push 6.
tweaktown.com
fanboy
>no game uses 6 gb
Mirrors edge catalyst
Max Payne 3
Skyrim with a shitton of mods
BF1
Shadow of mordor
and those are just the ones that i have personally noticed
I would rather pay to have good card than card of company I like.
Like mentioned, I shit on "brand loyality". And it was rather Nivida that began to piss me off lately.
Im not the one shilling mate ;_;
id rather have nvidia not for the sake of it being nvidia, but because it has superior performance in multiple games since nvidia pays jewmoney to developers and better drivers. dont look at benchmarks, look at in game performance. amd wins in benchmarks often but gets utterly fucked in games due to nvidias bribery, cruel world but thats how it is.
>willingly being part of the problem
good goyim
>willingly choosing inferior product
make sure to start a petition against gameworks and shit on nvidias fb profile, that will help.
>on release
980Ti > Fury X
>now
Fury X > 980 Ti
if Nvidia gimps their flagships, do you think they wouldn't gimp their budget cards as well?
Rise of the Tomb Raider uses just over 6GB with my MSI RX 80 Gaming X. So some games do actually use it to improve textures and such. Performance wise the 1060 wins in this particular game though. Even at 1390Mhz (the most stable my 480 will overclock to). It still sits around 50-55 fps in some places on ultra and I still have to pull back some settings to get to that fps. On a Freesync monitor it's not biggie though.
note: I'm aware Deus Ex is a shittily optimized game, so I picked DX11 rather than DX12, to hopefully level out things a bit
"it is much better"
It's called shilling, Op.
In games with Vulkan support AMD is destroying nvidia if I recall correctly
I wonder if Vulkan will see more and more use by the devs
had a 290x for 3 years now, 1440p and the first games i couldn't max out at 1440p were deus ex and mirrors edge, feels good to have the """inferior""" product
...
hopefully. even if you ignore AMD vs Nvidia slit slinging, it just makes sense to use the best designed API, but there's not much difference between it and DX12
if we buy into the "AMD users are poor" belief, then it makes more sense to have software that favours AMD, as it will allow those with older cards, whereas if Nvidia users lose performance, they'll just buy a new card, with all their Nvidia Reward® Shekels™
>be me
>buy used tri-x 290 2 years ago for $200
>overclock it, run daily at 1100/1500
>firestrike scores around stock 980
>still no cards out now that beat it at the price point
>meanwhile my friends who bought 960s for ~$250 just a year ago are looking to upgrade already
Sounds like my experience.
>buy new triX 290 for £215 two years ago.
>runs pretty much every game I play at 1440p fine.
>don't play AAA modern games anyway.
It's taken the 480/1060 to get close to the price for performance of this thing. It was a pity when the 390nonX increased in price.
>>don't play AAA modern games anyway.
surprisingly, even those run mostly fine at 1440p. obviously it can't max them out, but in BF1 beta, I could get constant 60fps with a mix of max and medium settings
price/performance wise, yeah the 480 and 1060 are the same if not better, but once you factor in AIB, they're slightly worse
that being said, I'm not going to spend $300 for a 5% FPS increase
I think the RX 400-series is a lot like the HD 7xxx series in that initially it's going to be slower than its competitors but when when DX12 and Vulcan start rolling out it's going to outperform its competitors.
Sadly AMD are too early, as with the HD 7xxx. By the time DX12/Vulcan has been universally adopted, nvidia will have released their own card with support for it (on purpose perhaps? *hand rubbing intensifies*). But if your choice is 1060 or 480 today, then I'd honestly go with a 480 even though it generally performs slightly worse than the 1060 in current applications. Because I think DX12/Vulcan offer a big enough performance improvement for developers to rapidly start implementing it in newer titles and certainly all new AAA games will have support for it.
Fellow users, I too have bought an AMD product and its amazing! I play newest games at 1440p and 144Hz without problems. Can i get such performance on any Nvidia GPUs? I dont think so.
Honestly OP buy AMD.
Do you think AMD can afford shills?
...
This isnt even funny.
butthurt nvidia shills
just go depending on what features you want
>gsync
>goyworks
go nvidia
>freesync
>dx12/vulkan performance boost
>future compatibility for crossfire
go AMD
also, if you want to fix "performs better on Nvidia (tm)" syndrome just set your driver options to globally limit tesselation to x16
...
gonna call falseflagging NVidia fanboy on that one
>>buy new triX 290 for £215 two years ago.
>>runs pretty much every game I play at 1440p fine.
>>don't play AAA modern games anyway.
literally me
>have 290x
>slap custom cooler on it
>overclock it only 10%
>play any games on high-very high settings 60fps1440p
>dont play more than a couple modern games a year anyway
Considering all 3 were pretty much 300€ for me, I chose a Fury to replace my 290, which I'm hoping to be able to still to sell for a decent price on ebay.
Still very satisfied with what I got from my 290 for the money.
Never trust these types of comparisons. They are basing it on reference cards and old drivers/info. I really wish tech sites would retest shit more often. But I guess it takes a lot of work doing so.
Those aren't reference cards, my illiterate friend.
I still would never trust that. You are better off taking a look at a good cross section of reviews and weighing it up against your needs and what you can afford as well as a little future proofing if you don't intend upgrading again in a year or two.
>jew benchmarks from shilled site
5 rupees transferred to your account
They are both good, but Surprisingly If I was low on cash and wanted perfection regarding Gaming Frame rate, Financially I would be better off with Nvidia.
But if I had this urge to get creative Then the AMD would actually cost me more.
Nvidia is 100% geared for Gaming with pretty much no other real world applications, its basically the same thing as a 440ti 15 years later, same architecture etc.
AMD is Valued for the creativity and The advancements they make against the competition, they have no choice, and I both feel with them and understand why they have constant teething problems.
The reason why AMD comes out more expensive compared to Nvidia, is because the AMD cards Just do not get along with shitty PSU's and 6 power plugs, therefore a Costly PSU and a few bux for the better wires can add up to a Considerable higher cost compared to what Nvidia can tolerate.
on the other hand, I Strongly believe, every computer should start with the Strongest PSU one can afford, as this can be a lifetime Purchase, like an EVGA 1300, it costs allot but.
just pick the cheapest and quietest option,
I have the evga gtx 1060 sc and like it: the single-fan cooling is more than enough and most of the time you won't hear shit (bios update makes it 0db below 60c and in heavy gaming the fans usually spin at like 20-25%). Easy +80-100 on the core if you need extra power. In some places it may be noticeably cheaper than the aib rx480.
Still, the msi is supposedly the quietest rx 480 and performs great as well. If you play more amd-sponsored game you should go with this option.
Send me a MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X and I will do a side by side test of it against my 480 of the same partner. Oh and some games you think would be a fair test of both. I'll give you a proper unbiased review of both :)
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What the fuck. This looks like a pasta from a poster at Tom's Shillware or something it makes so little sense.
It probably is.
get AMD dude, it just works
AMD is better, it just is.
literally just rollback drivers if you have any problems and its fixed. theres a goddamn "rollback" button if youre too dumb to uninstall/reinstall
>defending shit drivers
wtf
your point? it just works
they get fixed like a week later, idk who keeps whining about drivers.
it's all the same shit, every argument pro or against anything is memes, literally
just get the cheaper one nignog
>AMD is unequivocally superior due to dx12 support. It isn't a debate. You're buying a budget card. Future-proofing is a budget buy.
there is no such thing as a future proof midrange card. the 480 has a lifespan of 2 years max unless you're a pleb who only plays bad games (mobas & csgo)
Go with an EVGA 1060. Either get the SC or the SSC. Only difference between the two is one fan or two, and both will get you a higher texture fill rate than a regular 1060. The 1060 does ~15% better than the 480 at DX11 and below on average, and the 480 does ~2% better than the 1060 at DX12 on average.
the 1060 is ~10% faster than the 480 for the same price. OC it and you get ~15% more performance on top of that (pic related). anyone telling you to buy a 480, which is a lot slower for the same price, is a socialist bernie supporting moron.
the only good value card AMD has right now if the 470, and that's only if you can find it near the MSRP, most of them are price gouged and selling for a lot more right now.
is this a good year to not upgrade as better hardware is about to drop?
>gimpsync tax
>future gimping driver updates instead of future performance boosts like with amd
>gimpworks
>facebook login to use geforce experience
>shit at vulkan
KEK
ebin post purchase rationalization AMDrone
If you plan on using the card for 3+ years, get the 480. As long as AMD continues to use GCN, you'll see improvements.
If you buy a GPU every year or 2 then the 1060 is clearly the better choice. Better performance, better temps, better overclocking, less power consumption, less noise. AMD GPUs also have a problem with frametimes, which is much worse than having slightly less performance in the few games that the 480 will outeperform the 1060 in. The only "problem" is that Nvidia doesn't stick to the same architecture for 5 years, so optimizations made in one will be over a couple of years after it's released.
>AMDrone
Its good to see that you are posting by our guidelines Raj
Battlefield 3 is literally optimized for AMD and Nvidia is better wow really makes you think
>being this butthurt
>all these memes
i don't care about memesync or how the card will perform in 2 years (any midrange $200 card is obsolete for new games by then), i care about how the card performs now. AMD doesn't have a competitor to the 1060 in this regard.
>AMD doesn't have a competitor to the 1060 in this regard
You can buy a Nitro Fury for about $300. That's a pretty competitive offer. It's a little more than a 1060, but it should perform better as well. It does only have 4GB, but it's HBM.
Hah! You told him man
>ordered a Fury last night for the exact same reasoning
>paid, reserved but not shipped yet
UGH
Go away AMDrone this is a nvidia sponsored board
>AMD doesn't have a competitor to the 1060 in this regard.
the 480 now stop shilling and fuck off back to your containment board
480 is ~15% slower for the same price. it's DOA.