Good evening, technology board of the Four Channel image board.
I would like to present to you an interesting case. One of my Steam friends says that the Intel Core i7 6950X is the most powerful processor on the market right now, as well as one of the cheapest ones, when overclocked to 5 Gigahertz.
This is the math he gave me: 5 x 10 x 2 = 100 GHz. 1650/100 = $16.5 per Gigahertz.
He says it works that way because you multiply the five gigahertz for each of the two threads of the ten cores.
What do the lurkers of the technology board of the Four Channel image board think of his reasoning?
We don't care what your idiot steam friend thinks.
Mason Lee
You will never be using the ten cores at once to the maximum of their capacity.
David Phillips
>actually wasting time with people who use steam
Matthew Lewis
This reasoning is only applicable in the HPC market on specific user case scenarios.
4790K or 6700K are generally better price to performance especially when overclocked if you're gaming both of which will beat 6950X in gaming. I highly doubt an 6950X will reach 5Ghz or more without liquid nitrogen, the current average overclock for it is 4.5Ghz and most cases of this have hyperthreading disabled meanwhile 4790K/6700K both reach 4.8Ghz with hyperthreading on with relative ease.
Jonathan Myers
He's fucking stupid.
Liam Barnes
>the most powerful processor on the market right now, as well as one of the cheapest ones, when overclocked to 5 Gigahertz.
Only if you have luck and win silicon lottery and have a high end custom water loop to cool down that shit
FX-8350 5Ghz * 8 = 40 ; $160/40 = $4/Ghz. Even cheaper than i7
FX-6300 5Ghz * 6 = 30 ; $90/30 = $3/Ghz. Even more cheaper than FX8350
But this isn't how you can test how cheap a CPU is, you need to know what software will you run and how well can use your CPU. Maybe it's the cheapest one, or the expensive one
Jackson Foster
thats how osx measures cpu utilization, so that means he is correct
Hurry up and change your name or picture or make your profile private or something so you can stick out like a sore thumb.
Isaac Campbell
That avatar is actually very kawaii.
Ryder Morris
Wow, that's cancer. Thank the lord above that I stopped playing video games and got off of Steam.
What possesses someone to be like this? No, seriously, I want to know. All supreme memes and dreams aside... Even if it's your preference... This is just autism. How can a human being with a functional brain think this is okay?
Look at the groups... Flamin' Jihad Clan... I don't get it. Is it because they're just really underage? Really immature? Is it because they have issues in real life so they're outcasted and don't know how to socialize properly so they become this?
Imagine showing this to your parents. Or just anyone in real life...
Thomas Perez
The fuck are you even on about? With the exception of the edgy groups this profile looks absolutely normal
Cooper Powell
t. Autism Autismo
Austin Moore
If that's the case then that's pretty pathetic and Steam should die off along with the weebs.
This better not be you Lucas, you fucker. Don't make me call your mom.
Zachary Young
I guess so since I literally can see nothing wrong
Jack Johnson
You can't overclock it to 5GHz. It's not possible.
At least not if "price" is any factor in your purchasing decisions. And I ain't talking about babby water cooling setups.
Ryan Roberts
First, secondary cores aren't as efficient as the main one. Second, it doesn't matter how many cycles per second it does, the amount of operations that it can fit in a cycle does; and that depends on what kind of processing it's trying to perform at that moment.
Isaac Howard
I am a weeb myself, but I would never use an anime avatar outside of sites somewhat related to Sup Forums (e.g. anime trackers)
Honestly, that's just embarrassing. Look at that guy's fucking page. That godddamn avatar and that goddamn background are fucking embarrassing. I would never act this faggy in front of my friends. I play (older) games occasionally and I have no idea what Steam is (probably a site to share gaming-related stuff?), but if I ever used this I would go with a really simple avatar. I'm kinda into graphical design myself and I could probably do something in a minute or two.
Also, OP, please stop talking like this. You're not speaking in front of some public square, you're in the equivalent of a bar full with drunkards and old angry people. Loosen up.
Thomas Green
>You will never be using the ten cores at once to the maximum of their capacity. Speak for yourself, gamer.
Luis Brooks
>secondary cores aren't as efficient as the main one
Jack Lewis
>secondary cores aren't as efficient as the main one
Isaiah Barnes
>That godddamn avatar and that goddamn background are fucking embarrassing. Embarrassing? How? There's nothing wrong with it. >I would never act this faggy in front of my friends. They probably think you're a fag already since you care about something as trivial as a steam profile page.
Joshua Russell
>secondary cores aren't as efficient as the main one
Jordan Mitchell
>You will never be using the ten cores at once to the maximum of their capacity. Maybe you wont. I max out my system (only 8 cores) every day. Multiple times.
Carter White
I just live in a country where anime isn't that widespread; when you say "anime" people assume "hentai", "tentacle porn" and "perverts", basically the outdated American 90s views to anime are still the norm here.
So yes, while it wouldn't be embarassing for a westerner to be caught with an anime avatar, in cancerous anime groups (I don't mean that ALL anime groups are such, but the ones with the shitty names, and the ones with the most retards in them).
Carter Cook
she kept it al dente
Bentley Barnes
>>First, secondary cores aren't as efficient as the main one
Jesus Christ what the fuck, Sup Forums? Are you referring to hyperthreading?
Julian Hill
Crap, I didn't finish that last sentence properly.
While it wouldn't be embarassing to be caught over there in the States (or whichever country you're from) using an anime avatar, anime backgrounds and being these groups, it would be here. Yeah, I know I may be projecting my situation onto you and your country, but I refuse to believe anime is as socially acceptable as playing games is nowadays.
Kayden Watson
Are you referring to the big.LITTLE architecture that phones use?
David Wood
how the fuck has no one said this yet
you don't just multiply the clock speed by the number of cores
doesn't work that way
fucking retards in here i swear to god, summer Sup Forums a shit
Jonathan Scott
It's not even summer you dumb nigger
Aiden Robinson
what the fuck when did september happen
Jason Clark
>how the fuck has no one said this yet The same reason nobody has said the sky is blue on sunny days; because it's obvious.
>summer Sup Forums Uh, school started already. It isn't summer anymore.
Carter Nelson
>Caring about multi core performance for games >Caring about CPUs for games at all >Not realizing that an i5 is more then enough to not bottleneck your GPU
x 10 x 2 = 100 GHz Literally kill your friend and then yourself
>>>>He says it works that way because you multiply the five gigahertz for each of the two threads of the ten cores.
You have two pendulums each of them needs 2 seconds to completely swing back and forth. Now you let them both swing in sync, how long will it take them both to completely swing back and forth? If you answer 1 second you are OPs friend. If you have any common sense what so all you will realize that it will still take 2 seconds.
Parker Clark
First, secondary cores don't exist in desktop computation. Are you referring to logical cores?
If so, logical cores are not comparable to physical cores, in simple terms, they act as an extension within a physical core, rather than an entirely new core.
For example: In a HT quad-core configuration, Cores 0,1,2,3 are identical in everyway. Hyper threading, or Intel's fancy iteration of simultaneous thread computation, slightly modifys ordinary physical cores, allowing them to process a separate thread of code simultaneously (this process is dynamically engaged and disengaged). Ultimately this process allows for as much as a 30% performance improvement in well threaded programs, as well as a 0-10% performance improvement in poorly threaded programs.
Hopefully this clears things up a little. t. Engineering Student
Carter Rogers
le doxx also how did you find that image? It's very small in OPs pic
Juan Smith
>you don't just multiply the clock speed by the number of cores For what? It's valid for some applications. You'd know this if you weren't a gamer.
Brayden Richardson
Why is she throwing up gang signs?
Levi Morales
That's not how hyperthreading works. Hell, that's not even how multi-core performance works. If you try to put 100% load on 20 threads on a 10-Core Hyperthreaded CPU, you're only going to get the performance of those 10 cores because they're maxed out.
Also, you can't really multiply clock-speed to get total performance numbers, because that shit depends on scheduling and other factors that limit performance.
Plus Intel has actual 24 core Xeon CPUs (e.g. 48 logical processors) that run pretty quickly so even overclocked to 5GHz I doubt the 6950X could make up the difference, especially in heavily-multithreaded loads.
Ayden Robinson
>weaboo avatar
Yeah if you actually consider him a friend highly consider killing yourself.
Ethan Gomez
>Girl Gamers
Juan Adams
>cyprus
Dylan Scott
Hyperthreading just makes it possible for the CPU core to execute another thread during a cache miss or branch misprediction which stall the pipeline if the ALU or FPU is currently not used. If you have a piece of code that has a 100% miss rate then you can in theory see your throughput double. If you have highly optimized code the performance can go down because the caches have to be shared between the two threads and the execution resources are always busy.
Isaiah Campbell
It is here in the states. The one convention I go to a year has been growing steadily since about 2008, this past year it had nearly 30,000 people over that weekend and I live in Ohio, not a huge populated state
They also show anime films in theaters now.
If that isn't growing mainstream appeal I don't know what is
Benjamin Bell
Tfw 80% of my steam friends list is, including people I know irl
Elijah Nelson
it's not, you don't even have to do any math, just look at the "i7" name and you already know it >doesn't support SMP >doesn't support virtualization extensions >is nothing but a toy for consumertards with more money than sense
Nathan Cooper
>5 x 10 x 2 = 100 GHz. no no no stop this shit GHz is measurement of frequency, it's how many fucking times the piece of shit ticks as a whole to process through whatever AAA gay furry porn eroge games you're punishing it with at a given time
it doesn't "stack" with more cores and threads, there's no "effective 100 GHz" speed, it's not a goddamn measurement of performance, it never was, it never will be
Chase Cox
no it's not you fucking failed abortion even glossing over the fact that doubling cores != doubling performance, a common clock frequency doesn't give a fuck how much more logic is being clocked, it's always what it is, it doesn't stack
Gabriel Roberts
Ok, take it up with VMWare, then.
Samuel Green
guys, sorry to interrupt, but OP *is* a gamer.
Samuel King
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Lincoln Russell
Just because your buddy plays steam games probably a CS:GO ELITIEST doesn't make him an expert about computer hardware. He's a fucking idiot
Nicholas Sanchez
You will never overclock that to 5ghz for one
Secondly, while it does indeed have ten cores, most things 99% of people and gaymers will ever do could never come close to utilizing that many cores. I'd bet that there aren't any consumer applications capable of taking advantage of ten cores right now.
Thirdly, the 6700k actually beats the the 6950x in single core performance which is honestly the most important measure of performance for most consumer/gayming applications.
Conclusion:you're friend could maybe out think a potato, but it would require a lot of effort on his part where as both of these processors could do so handily. Tell you're friend he doesn't need a processor smarter than he is.