PCIe and PCIe accessories

Post your things that go in these but ARE NOT GRAPHICS CARDS. I'm a pleb and don't have any so I'm curious what you got.

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WLAN chip. Compatible with OS X for muh hackintosh.

I have a box full of sound cards, SCSI/IDE/RAID controllers, TV Tuners, Ethernet and Wifi cards, USB/Firewire/Parallel/Serial/PS2/MIDI/eSATA port, uh yeah I think that's it.

Fuck I forgot modems. How does one forget modems?

Audio cards
Lan/WLan cards
USB cards
eSata/Sata controllers
RAID cards
Video Capture cards
There are even complete computers on a board that can be plugged into a PCIe slot.

PCIe SSD's (to circumvent the SATA bottleneck) are probably the only useful consumer expansion card technology.
then again - the benefit compared to regular SATA SSD's is almost neglible from a practical standpoint.

sure - there are some others, like RAID cards, but those aren't really sensible for consumers.
it's the same with soundcards ... even if you actually need/want something better than onboard audio (which got really decent over the years), you'll be much better off with getting an external solution - since putting delicate digital-analog converters and such right into a case full of buzzing electronics and even a high-voltage power supply is simply not sensible.
(that's why most high-price motherboards have some kind of shield around the sound components or even try to seperate them from the other stuff as much as possible on the board ... they even put illuminated border lines on it)

WLAN cards might be ok - but in my opinion it's quite stupid to have a stationary computer use wireless lan ... installing an ethernet cable is much more sensible ... but then again, most consumer would be fine with WLAN anyway.

all in all ... expansion cards are kind of dead

I don't really understand why full size ATX boards are still a thing.

couldn't be bothered to find a pic of it but it's quite good

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>I don't really understand why full size ATX boards are still a thing.
Multiple GPUs

I bet it's really overpriced and/or has no linux driver

You'd be surprised
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>Multiple GPUs
You're just proving his point.

can do that with mATX

anything more than 2 GPUs is stupid anyway

I have 3 analog conexant and Bt tuner/video capture cards
What do? I still get analog TV until next year.

>anything more than 2 GPUs is stupid anyway

Not for those who are into heavy processing/3d rendering.

I also just like having the option open. it's not like the price difference is that significant. Just because you have no use for it doesnt mean everyone on the planet should be forced to use mATX shit.

I have a Xonar DGX but I don't use it, because there's not much of a difference and my motherboard is shitty enough that the PCIe port is directly below the GPU in such way that the cards are fucking touching. And nothing good can come from blowing a lot of hot air on top of another card.

>digital signals are totally better in terms of quality guys
>comes loaded with DRM such as HDCP and CAM
Fuck this world.

And how many people do heavy processing and 3D rendering? 99% of people are better off with smaller motherboards. They're cheaper and aesthetically superior.

What the hell are you walking about? You can record over the air HDTV.

>I don't really understand why full size ATX boards are still a thing.
Some people have
GPUs
Accelerator cards
Networking cards
HBA/RAID cards


Now, why PCI still exists is beyond me.

PCI Intel NIC in case something happens I'd rather the card die than the chip on the motherboard
PCIe Wireless NIC, for no real reason
Serial and game port that connects to the motherboard headers, again for no real reason
Additional USB ports

I've got a usb 2.0 hub because i use some old hardware and the drivers dont work with 3.0.

used to have a network card because the port on my mobo was fucked.

>And how many people do heavy processing and 3D rendering?
Doesn't fucking matter how many people do it. I shouldn't be punished because you don't do anything with your mobo.

>aesthetically superior.
Who the fuck cares about aesthetics for something that will be covered up by components inside a giant case? Are you 14 years old? The fuck is wrong with you son.

>Now, why PCI still exists is beyond me.
Because I have a billion PCI cards and I don't want to get new PCIE X1 versions for shits and giggles.

>DVB-T and DVB-S cards are dirt cheap
>DVB-C is expensive

I never said ATX motherboards shouldn't be available anymore. In fact, they should be for the 1% who needs them.

Cases can be a whole lot smaller with smaller motherboards. Just look at those sexy mini-ITX cases. That's much better than the next Fractal Design ATX shitfest that gets mass-produced. I know because I have one and it's fucking huge.

Still going strong since 2009 with the Daniel_k drivers, it and my E11k are an especially nice pair

I've also got a PCIe Intel CT adapter, since the onboard Intel card shits itself under even mild traffic, no idea how this would happen with a 4790k, but it went away once I got a dedicated adapter

>I know because I have one and it's fucking huge.
Straight up insane, and it can't even fit E-ATX shit. Piece of shit case.

>Just look at those sexy mini-ITX cases.
You want 50C ambient temps that badly?

I remember trying to find something like a PC on a pcie adapter a while back. Can I have a name?

I'm kinda envious that you cunts can buy DVB-T dongles for $10 and have TV and software radio in one.

>sexy mini-ITX cases
I don't like mini-series shit.
I hate small shit. I will never buy a mini series.

I want my big ass towers to emphasize the power of my desktop. I also like having extra space to work with. This also means 120~200mm fans = better temps.

You can fuck right off with your mini shit cases.
We do it big in America.

Orange had these for PPC Macs (when Apple began using PCI isnstead of NuBus).

>DVB-T is only SD quality here
>only state television is broadcast decrypted

>and have TV and software radio in one.
That's the problem: We don't, unless we install a roof antenna
And soon all DVB-T devices will be useless when we introduce DVB-T2. Of course you still have to pay if you want more than 5 channels in HD. Meanwhile DVB-C just werks

>sexy

You should stop using that word when making arguments about technology, weebnerd.

obviously workstations exist
those might very well need to install lots of GPUs for rendering or whatever else - including other specialized expansion cards

the whole "e" lineup of intel CPUs exists for the same reason - some professionals need all the PCI lanes and additional performance and EEC RAM compatability and so on

however - I'm talking from a consumer perspective.
no consumer - even someone who's throwing out 3000 bucks for a gaming pc - needs a full sized ATX board.
there's simply nothing you'd ever need 7 slots for. I'd even go as far as to say that at least 80% of people would be perfectly fine with an mini ITX board, but obviously some people do need some expansions cards or use dual GPUs ... but in any case - you'll never need more than 4 slots (or 2 GPUs)

... unless you're doing something professional like video editing and so on, but that's leaving the consumer market yet again.
sure, some full size ATX "consumer level" boards for these few people should exist - but I simply can't understand why full size ATX is still the standard

Single-board computers
They don't fit onto normal main boards, only on their own ones

>no consumer - even someone who's throwing out 3000 bucks for a gaming pc - needs a full sized ATX board.

i'm a hobbyist/enthusiast
even though im technically a consumer, I still want the power of a professional workstation.

plenty of people are just like me. imo, consumer is pleb tier. Why do you think everything is marketed with the buzzword "pro" these days?

stop saying what you think people need/want
leave full atx boards alone

That sucks. ATSC is HD quality no encryption.

what the fuck do you mean by "the power of a professional workstation" ??

tell me what benefits you actually (not potentially!) have from having a workstation grade motherboard - compared to a Z?? chipset consumer grade one?

I still have some old DV equipment that's great for older video sources, too bad classic FireWire has give from almost mainstream to completely outdated and unusable. GG on keeping your port the same and backwards compatible every revision, USB.

fire wire had incredible problems ... including unsolvable security risks

(in fact, thunderbolt has some of the same problems - since it has some similarities to fire wire)

>GG on keeping your port the same and backwards compatible every revision, USB.
The port wasn't the same, but Firewire 800 was backwards compatible. You could get a 400 to 800 cable. In fact, 800 smoked the shit out of USB2 and it wasn't until USB3 came out that they had a better product.

I have a broken BlackMagic video+audio capture card, a quad mSATA RAID card, a eSATA RAID card, and a broken 4-port Intel NIC.

Fuck that TP-Link n900 absolutely would not connect to my night hawk router so I got one of these bad boys and it connects perfectly.

Did a speed test on my P50 and it got 50MB down and then did a test with the Asus card and got 114MB

You can get radio and television tuners to do some interesting things.

depends where you get it
worst thing about the card is you have to purchase the recording software (or reset the software as it has a 14 time limit)

PCIe wireless cards and sound cards immediately come to mind but there are other things. PCIe SSDs are a thing and I was recently looking into PCI/PCIe SATA expansion cards since I've used up all my slots but need to add more hard drives.

tell me more kind sir

How? Multiple GPUs definitely have a purpose. Take into consideration space for RAID cards, additional NICs, etc. and you've got more than enough reasons for ATX to be a thing.

You're better off. The Xonar cards all have high output impedances on the order of 10 ohms or so. Your motherboard output is only around an ohm or two. When it comes to driving headphones or speakers in general you want your output amplifier stage to have a low impedance, at least 10x less than the input impedance of your headphones or else you will lose volume because it effectively forms a voltage divider with your headphones. 10 ohm output impedance into say 32 ohm speakers will cut the voltage by 1/4 (Vout*(32/(32+10))).

again, at most 2% of non-professionals use that

while I agree that that's (more than) enough reason for full size ATX boards to exist - it's simply stupid to still have them as the standard

Can you show us on the doll where the big bad man buying an ATX board for his computer hurt you?

>moving goalposts

Asus Xonar Essence STX
the PCI-e version of the ST

Cryptography coprocessor

>GG on keeping your port the same and backwards compatible every revision, USB.
Not any more...

Now that is some cool shit!

Like?

TV and Radio

Double-port gigabit ethernet.
SATA controller.
Another SATA controller.
TV card.

Let's just ignore that and other shit, like they renamed USB 3.0 to "3.1 version 0" recently

I had a truckload of these after the local university ditched their Suns.

Sadly they couldn't be used for anything outside Solaris.

>those batteries
Is it to prevent side channel attacks or what?

Memory loss when there's a power outage
Expensive SSDs and some Ramdrives have them too

Two WLAN cards and a sound card.

Don't ask.

I have one of these that I use to connect a GPU to my Thinkpad W510. That's all I've got.

>he doesn't have 10G ethernet

>chink quality assured PCI-E to PCI bridge adapter that overloaded and damaged 6 out of 7 PCI-E slots
>can't plug TV card and soundcard in

That's what I get for buying chink shit. Never again.

The PCI-E killer was only a matter of time after the hype around the USB killer.

you got memed

Is that an scsi controller?

That's a computer.

Just read the rest of the thread, do you have any information on that card? I really wonder how it would be utilizedm

For running x86 software on non-x86 hardware

That makes sense, thanks

With singlemode sfp adaptor...

I have a Video Card that uses standard PCI, nVidia geforce 5400 I think. I also have RAID cards and a few Wireless NIC cards and fiber card that go in PCIe.

Why? It seems decent enough.

>mode
>copper

Not him but I read so many horror stories of the things shitting themselves for no reason I decided to go for a desktop instead. The idea is awesome and im sure it's possible to get them working in a reliable way but you have to do so many things and be lucky for that to happen. The fact no company other than chink sellers makes them says something, they're not going to work as expected.

I use daniel k drivers with my auzentech prelude. Its still working in windows 10. Honestly don't feel the need to get a new soundcard and if I did. I'd probably just get a straight DAC.