Windows 10 Pro group policies being gimped

ghacks.net/2016/07/28/microsoft-removes-policies-windows-10-pro/

>Up until now, policy availability was more or less identical for all professional versions of Windows 10. Turns out, this is no longer the case when the Windows 10 Anniversary Update is released.

>Some policies contain a note stating that they only apply to certain editions of Windows 10, with Windows 10 Pro not being listed as one of them.

>Note: This setting only applies to Enterprise, Education, and Server SKUs

>Furthermore, the corresponding Registry keys are not working either anymore which means that Pro users have no option to make changes to features affected by the change.

How much will MS take away from you before you realize that you will never control your own PC as long as Windows 10 is installed on it?

>2016-07-26
Are you living under rock?

I already switched to Linux because of the intrusive habits of Windows 10. Soon others will follow once the ass fucking reaches its prime.

Wait for it.

Soon you'll need to have Enterprise to use group policies at all probably

Use ltsb n you cuck

Today is probably the 3rd or 4th time I've switched back to Linux over the past 2 years or so, but games keep sucking me back into windows
>inb4 Wine
it works for some shit, but running some games through wine with mods is nearly impossible, especially if they are non steam. Plus my pc isn't that great and Wine is even slower

I keep a sterile installation of Windows 8.1 on a external HDD to run games and whatnot. Disable updates and don't run any torrents on that shit with a proper AV, you will be fine.

why not dual boot?

I don't really play games at all, but just wondering.

>How much will MS take away from you before you realize that you will never control your own PC as long as Windows 10 is installed on it?
i've already realized that with windows xp sp1 and switched to linux because of it

>dual boot
it's not 2004 anymore, we have iommu now

I know plenty of people who literally aren't bothered by anything Windows 10 does, even forced updates. I hate to say it but I don't think a mass switching of people to GNU/Linux will happen.

>not using lunix after 2007
you're late son
feels good

Wut?

>ltsb n
You can only use Enterprise LTSB N. No Pro LTSB N exists. That is not a solution for Pro users to regain their lost features.

>iommu
I agree, but if wine runs like shit for his old hardware, I doubt a virtual box would be much better.

Just wondering why all the switching back and forth if all he plays are games.

>I know plenty of people who literally aren't bothered by anything Windows 10 does, even forced updates.

Been wanting one but I don't have money for an external HDD
Because when I switched to linux for some reason gparted couldn't tell what was on my C: partition and wouldn't let me shrink it and I didn't feel like waiting for hours for windows to slowly as fuck defrag and then resize the partition. The games I play the most are available on linux anyway but it's games like Skyrim and Fallout that make me rage at Wine and switch back to windows.,

So IOMMU will allow you to run new Windows games on Linux?

Yeah, on windows I have to run skyrim at medium to low settings and around 1280x720 resolution to get it to not skip frames.

Go to Windows disk management > Shrink drive to create an empty partition of about 20GB. Then use Ubuntu installer and select the empty space, it will partition itself and update bootloader to detect both operating systems.

virtual box supports iommu and gfx passthrough ? didn't know that.

iommu allows you to fully utilize hardware (e.g. a gpu) in a virtual machine - so ne need to reboot, just fire up the windows VM for gaming

You are full of shit. IOMMU is just a fancy word for VT-d which I have enabled. It made no significant difference to my VM installation. It sitll runs like shit and cannot access my full hardware prowess with a shitty resolution.

As long as all this is in the EULA then I have no problem with it.

I don't use Windows 10, so this doesn't affect me.

But, you guys acting annoyed and shocked DID read the EULA before you accepted it, right?

Thanks for the advice and I'll keep it in mind for the future but I'll probably keep mint for a couple months before switching back or trying to dual boot, I stupidly don't own a physical copy of windows so I have to hunt down a copy online (easy as long as windows still offers the ISO, but then I have no product code because my computer came with Win7 and I have switched OS so many times)

>I know plenty of people who literally aren't bothered by anything Windows 10 does, even forced updates.

Isn't this the logical end-point of the "computers should 'just work'" line of thinking?

1. vt-d is just some intel marketing term for iommu you fucking retard
2. i though i didn't need to mention that you need a brain too to actually make use of iommu. i guess i was wrong

LOL -- I actually took a thinkpad back to BestBuy after reading the EULA. When I told a few friends (who use win 10) about the EULA, they told me I was full of shit because they didn't want to believe it.

People dont read that shit -- I think I'm one of three people who actually read EULAs

Not really the point I was making. I was more just saying that no one can be mad about this, because it's obviously all spelled out and what Windows 10 is designed to do. Even the Cortana acceptance blurb goes "We're gonna do what we want -- do you want to deal with it, fgt?"

>Isn't this the logical end-point of the "computers should 'just work'" line of thinking?
Exactly. To them their computer works fine and have no problem with Windows 10's means of operating.

look at it this way, if you are a winfag (which I'm not)
and you have a lot invested in software
and MS changes their privacy policy with a new version

you're probably going to be a bit pissed.

I agree they should have read the EULA, but what choice do they have -- stay on win 7 and get the same spying through "updates" that ignore the original EULA/privacy policy?

It's a pretty shitty business model.

Windows belongs to Virtual Machines

>It's a pretty shitty business model.

Yeah, but it can be as shitty as it likes. That's the beauty of monopolies.

>Soon others will follow
lmao. I love how delusional Loonix retards are.

>2016
>Not running locked down LTSB N

I shiggidy diggidy hope not.

It's your own doom if you stay on Windows with the way MS is going

Just run Windows on a virtual machine.

>Just run Windows on a virtual machine.
Is this legal?

Don't quite care

>iommu
I/OMMU*
ftfy

Win10 is terrible
OSX is terrible
Linux is terrible

Fuck this, i'm abandoning all computers.

it's either I/O-MMU or IOMMU. both a perfectly file

either wait for freebsd to catch up with linux or use linux. it's shit, but sadly the best we currently have

>autism
ftfy

I don't see why it wouldn't be.

Because it's not a Microsoft Approved(TM) manner of running the OS and we only use Windows at their pleasure.

Usually I would have disagreed, but, right now,
>be me (who the fuck else)
>be installing debian fileserver on a random newish box
>download netinst image
>burn thumbdisquette, boot
>proceed with installation until
network autoconfiguration failed
Some of your hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate. The firmware can be loaded from removable media, such as a USB stick or floppy.
The missing firmware files are: suckmyballs-imnonfree.ext
If you have media available now, insert it, and continue.
Load missing firmware from removable media?
>grumble because the debian project wankers didnt want to include the nonfree NETWORK firmware into the NETWORK installation image
>burn nonfree .debs into additional thumbdisquette
>shove new thumbdisquette into box
>continue
>new thumbdisquette not recognized
>shutdown
>burn nonfree .debs into old thumbdisquette, shove it into box
>proceed with installation

So I'll follow your lead

I know people say stuff like "It's in their EULA that you agreed with" but I think it is about time we make an open letter to Microsoft about some of the shit they are doing.

They're basically taking away reasons why you would use Pro over Home, and that's terrible for the people who actually paid for Pro.
These are mostly the people who purchased the operating system separately. Who know what they are doing. And Microsoft is pushing to treating them like Home users.
It's not right. It makes no sense from a product point of view.

>It makes no sense from a product point of view.

Yeah, but what does it matter? Everyone's going to use Windows anyway.

Someone should go back in time and make it so that source can always be automatically built back from machine code so that everything is essentially open source

One of the issues is, MS just ignores the community when it comes to any of these complaints. I never hear MS responses to people's complaints. You can put out an open letter, but what will it do? They probably wouldn't even read it. They know they have the PC market by the balls as far as OSes. I'm surprised they didn't do this stuff as early as XP really.

Because people complain on community boards and sites. Microsoft isn't going to respond to every complaint people make all over the place, at least not with people, but if you centralize the complaints into a single letter then you would be more likely to get an actual response.

It's not like Microsoft doesn't want their users to be happy. If people actually centralized their support for complaints then its more likely that Microsoft would take them seriously and something happen.

>It's not like Microsoft doesn't want their users to be happy.
Microsoft wants their users to pay them and they already have that.

Now they have Windows Store they can get even more money if people are happy.

Free software is software that respects the user's freedom

But anyways, any power user that knows what they're doing is using Windows Server as a workstation to actually get every feature instead of consumer oriented shit like Pro

Problem is, those of us who have issues with W10 would never use the Windows Store

Windows 10 Server exists?

Windows Server 2016. Terrible update policy, licensing based on number of CPU cores. Pure absurd.

No shit. Group policy should have never been in Windows Pro in the first place. They're getting rid of it because many companies illegally use the Windows Pro license when they're supposed to be using the Enterprise license. Group policy in Pro just enables them to ignore the license terms. Microsoft should have done this years ago.

Look everybody, a Microsoft executive just posted.

If 10's on its own partition it can't possibly affect things outside of that, right?

I can dual-boot to my hearts content, yes?

If your other partitions are in NTFS or FAT32 I assume it can still fuck them over

Only if you use disk encryption on the other OS partition.

why are you using group policy for your shitty personal wingarbage equipment?

do you literally have an Active Directory Domain on your shitty home network?

get fucking real. stop sucking M$ dick so hard shitdows admin.

I've had this opinion with politics for 30 years.
Most people don't care, most people don't want to.

or maybe stop buying broadshit tier hardware, you faggot.

>He doesn't know that group policies are the only way to turn off some of MS' "features" in Win10 so basically anyone needs it

i have 3 domains at home

>How much will MS take away from you before you realize that you will never control your own PC as long as Windows 10 is installed on it?

Nothing. I don't pay for OS or software and see no reason to do so. I run Windows or Linux where it serves me. I don't give a shit about anyone else.

You're a big guy, you can pirate.

Well MS has Policies designed for you, mister. Like sniffing out all your personal data when you think Windows is only serving you.

>use proprietary, closed-source software
>agree to list of buttfucking ToU before installing

>users still get mad and somehow surprised when shit happens in the background

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT

For Windows to become open source

>TFW using osx for laptop and win 7 for desktop
feelsgoodman.jpg

MS probably has stolen countless lines of GPL code and will never open source windows and get into legal shitstorm.

All it takes is someone with the access to the source code for W7 within MS to be an hero and leak it

Alright, so another format of partition or encryption.
I had been thinking of dual-booting with windows 10 and still sorta am considering it.

Either that, or just pirating windows 7 or 8 then using the classic shell I heard about.

If you don't need 10 for gaming or something, don't use it. Use 7 or 8.1 instead (without the botnet updates).

I do game a lot, but I also dick around with other stuff from time to time.
Was thinking of using Windows 10 for gaming mainly and for other stuff perhaps use Ubuntu or Mint or something.

>put computer to sleep
>get in bed
>computer turns itself back on
>put it to sleep again
>hear the fan start up again
>hold down the power button to turn it off
>the next time I turn it on it spends 15 minutes updating
You'd have to be braindead to not hate this piece of shit.

There has to be a way to stop it from doing that. That's your electricity MS is wasting

I literally installed Linux Mint just this evening after Windows 10 forcefully shut my computer down in order to install a fucking update while I was in the middle of jacking it to porn. It was the final straw after that new retarded GUI that came with Windows 8.

Sucks because you need to fucking pirate Enterprise, Education, Server for window 10 to be useable.


>They're getting rid of it because many companies illegally use the Windows Pro license when they're supposed to be using the Enterprise license.

No that's Microsoft remove features, and trying to make milk enterprise buck as much as possible.

okay Mr. genius I am just your average user how do I get legitimate key to activated? I know where to download it from the official site so how to I pay for the official key as a regular person since I don't own a business?

>it shouldn't have been in because Microsoft's ass-backwards licensing shit isn't being forced down their throat hard enough

Do you even believe the things you just wrote?

Windows 10 users (of any version) try this --

1. find a jpg
2. right-click
3. properties
4. Details
5. Select text that says "Remove properties and personal information
6. Hit on the next dialogue box.


Pro tip -- you can't do this.

Works fine on my machine

Lmao. Fucking COM Surrogate bullcrap.

Got any more hilarious shit like this?

Turning off updates is sounding more and more reasonable the more about 10 I read.

He's telling you to pirate it

This article is complete bullshit, they didn't remove any policies.

>install onedrive on android phone
>battery usage goes up
>I stop it and force stop it
>starts by itself
>sincs pics even when I change the settings
What's gone into Microsoft?

>b-but you can turn off the botnet with group policies
you only have yourself to blame.

No problems here on Server 2016.

VirtualBox? Because it's also slow and my favorite 2d game won't work with the video driver provided by virtualbox guest additions.

If you're gonna pirate then just pirate windows 10 enterprise and fuck around with group policy to your hearts content. Problem solved.