It is legally allowed for restaurants to advertise free wifi but you have to ask for the password

>it is legally allowed for restaurants to advertise free wifi but you have to ask for the password

Does your country suck this much?

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How hard is it to ask?

you don't belong here

Interesting, do you suffer from Autism?

But what if I just want to use their wifi and not pay for food?

we do free wifi for customers only, we give them the password if they ask for it, the password changes every day

we do this to stop scrubs leeching off our wifi without buying anything, we exist to make a profit, not to give entitled little cunts something for nothing

free != public

are they charging you an specific amount when you ask?

The only right answer ITT.

>restaurant claims they have free wifi
>won't give you wifi unless you pay money for food

How about stop being a deadbeat? If they didn't change the password every day. the bandwidth will get drained by deadbeats in no time.

How do you feel about people like me who buy a small coffee and nurse it for hours while I leech off your wifi and power sockets and take up an entire table to myself?

Yup. And much more. HUEbr

I hate to break this to you but you doing that doesn't annoy people as much as it makes them feel sorry for how pitiful your life is.

wow that came out of nowhere

no it didn't

Not really, I agree.

You're the one that brought the situation up.

Best post

Sorry senpai you got fucking sniped

I didn't make the thread about feeling entitlement to free public wifi

I work at a Starbucks while I'm still in school
DESU I prefer people who stay here to study
I talk to a couple of programmers regularly now and they give me feedback on my programming projects and we talk about tech news
Kinda helps keep the job from being too soul crushing

This is really legal in the US?

they can also refuse you access to their restroom unless you're a paying customer

what they can't do is refuse you service because you're a homosexual and/or transexual.
It's not written in the law, but trannies will come out of the woodwork and write fake reviews on yelp and write scathing news stories about you until you're out of business.

You are not entitled to lie to people. That isn't free wifi. That is access with purchase and should be advertised as such you fucking kike.

Nice blog faggot

>you are not entitled to lie to people
actually, they are

it isn't illegal to lie, if you aren't being duped out of something yourself

>walk into restaurant establishment with FREE WIFI sign
>hay whats the wifi password
>you need to purchase something first
how is this not a scam?

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising#Regulation_and_enforcement

COME ONE COME ALL FREE DRINK!*


*with purchase of lamborghini

>free

Nothing is truly free. Not even you.

Why does a fucking restaurant offer you wifi? You should be eating and talking to your friends, not shitposting on Sup Forums.

Based user

it makes sense in coffee shops because coffee is a passive beverage, you usually eat it while doing something else, they even sell you sweets to eat with your coffee and newspapers and books and free wifi so you can come by more often

>they can also refuse you access to their restroom unless you're a paying customer
Actually, depending were you live that might be against city ordinance.
>psmag.com/why-don-t-we-have-pay-toilets-in-america-26efede62d6b#.ka0w1scho

>You are not entitled to lie to people.
yes they are
>thats not free wifi
they aren't charging you for the wifi. Its customers only.

>how is this not a scam?
Because you can turn 360 degrees and walk away.

>not using airodump to get the 4 way handshake and cracking the password'

you don't deserve to be here

>it isn't illegal to lie

That's literally false advertising.

No its not.

Free to customers, its not misleading at all if a business wants to limit who gets access to their free wifi

It's free as in "complimentary", not free as in "everybody can use this no matter what"
Much like most bathrooms
You fucking communist

yes, we do

After just having read about a court case that resulted in ruling that the labeling of a juice blend that consisted of 0.5% pomegranate and blueberry juice as a "Enhanced Pomegranate Blueberry Flavored 100% Juice Blend" is ok, I have lost a lot of faith in any teeth that false advertising laws may have.

So go out and sue all the business which do this.

Or, alternately, accept that they aren't actually lying and move on with your life. (I say that just as a turn of phrase - you clearly have no life if you care about this.)

I saw a man on the street today with a sign reading "Free Tibet". When I approached him about it, he refused to hand over control of the Asian nation.

How many millions of dollars can I sue him for?

So your customers have to ask for the password every day? Just use the same one each time, who gives a shit.

Most situations are not cut and dry.

I've had to help a small business near a block of
flats that was having their internet service abused
by flat residents who were mooching off the wifi.

In the end an auto-gen short code with timed expiration
was the easiest option.

People, in general, are entitled and demanding. It's nothing personal.

the fuck do you need wifi in a restaurant for?
stop browsing facebook and enjoy your food

...

>buy coffee and muffin
>ask for wifi password
>acquiring the wifi password doesn't increase my expense

It's clearly free. Just because they refuse to give it broke NEETs doesn't mean it costs something.

>yfw the price of coffees and muffins contains the price you pay for wifi, and if you don't use it you out

Free coffee for the price of one coffee!

Also clear WiFi can be sniffed easily.

That sounds comfy as fuck, not gonna lie

Hasn't the hidden SSID been debunked as being more of a security risk than a visible one?

Because we already have enough anit-social pussies who will cry if you take their phones away

>all day on social media
>anti-social

That's called free refills, usually

The wifi is free with purchase.

Still obnoxious as fuck being stuck to a tiny screen when you're surrounded by human beings who you can talk and gesticulate to with your mouth and hands.

give me a you please

t. Ricardo Stallman

>Gesticulate to
I thought Italians were banned from Sup Forums

Ey! Quatro Faggio!
I'm not Italiano but I can't imagine talking without moving my hands. You a robot, f.am?

No, I don't live in murika

But that wasn't lying. It was pomegranate and blueberry FLAVORED, and it was 100% juice blend. They never said it was 100% pomegranate and blueberry juice.

Still dastardly, if you ask me.

I mean that's the problem isn't it? You can mislead as much as you want, but as long as you make sure you put the truth in microscopic print somewhere you're ok.

But it wasn't microscopic print. It was plainly stated in the name of the product. Just because you cannot figure out what it means doesn't mean that it is false advertising.

You're really helping to shore up my hatred of marketing and all those involved with it, thanks.

It's free with purchase of food, user. The seating in the restaurant is also free with purchase of food. Otherwise, you're leeching off public resources.

As long as there are other tables available to customers, you're not really a profit loss for the company. If enough customers come in that they are needing tables, they might tell you to finish up that coffee. Some restaurants are more explicit in how much time they allow you to just sit there and eat/drink on one order.

Quick, how much chocolate does this contain?

The truth is in big letters, you're just too dumb to see it. Orange FLAVORED soda and strawberry FLAVORED candy don't have any fruit at all in them. Chocolate FLAVORED ice cream shockingly isn't 100% cacao. Nobody's surprised, because that's just the FLAVOR. But suddenly when it's juice, you expect the FLAVOR the be 100% of the contents? Hint: if it's 100% of the contents, it's no longer a FLAVOR.

None, it is chocolate flavored syrup

Here (italy) there are no rules on this subject, they usually put an open network which ask you to SHARE your location on Facebook before you can use, to advertise the place. Is horrible

Exactly. If something claims to be " Pomegranate Blueberry Flavored", I don't expect it to contain any pomegranate or blueberry.

If it was marketed as "100% Pomegranate-Blueberry Blend", then I would be very disappointed if pomegranate and blueberry weren't the primary ingredients.

Based on the ingredients I'd say not much. Small wonder they don't call it "chocolate syrup".

The thing is, with everything else you listed it's a substance that you have to add flavor you. You can't make ice cream directly from chocolate, you can't make soda directly from oranges. Juice, however, does come directly from a fruit. I'm not mandating that the named flavors have to comprise 100% of the contents with no exceptions, and I'm not unfamiliar with the concept of juice blends either. However, in this particular case I consider the proportions to be bordering on the absurd. By the same standard, you could be justified in labeling the above mentioned syrup as "salt flavored syrup".

Language as a tool of obfuscation rather than communication is an abuse of the entire concept. You disgust me.

>The thing is, with everything else you listed it's a substance that you have to add flavor you.
There's a significant difference between "raspberry-flavored ice cream" and "raspberry ice cream".

With raspberry ice cream, I'd expect that the flavor is coming from actual raspberries. With raspberry-flavored ice cream, I wouldn't.

This is basically what the FDA guidelines say. It's similar to the difference between "fruit juice" and "fruit cocktail/drink/beverage". The former must be made from 100% juice, the latter doesn't.

But the user said it was "Enhanced Pomegranate Blueberry Flavored 100% Juice Blend"

I agree with you though. So long as it is stated clearly there isn't a problem.

But it isn't salt flavored syrup. It is chocolate flavored syrup. It doesn't matter what proportions the ingredients are so long as you end up with the flavor you intended being the dominant one.

"Enhanced / Pomegranate Blueberry Flavored / 100% Juice Blend"
I think it is pretty clearly stated.

I know, that was my point. I was just agreeing that in general it is okay so long as it is clearly stated. Guess I wasn't clearly stating myself

my mom swears that apple users dont ever even have to enter wifi passwords, OP.
you should try a mac!

You seem to be having trouble understanding basic language concepts. Shall I walk you home gently?

What would you propose the product be called instead? Blueberry and pomegranate juice are both pretty strong, so if the rest is apple and white grape or whatever I don't doubt that the main taste people consciously notice would be blueberry and pomegranate.

Apple and grape juice blend with pomegranate and blueberry flavoring.

I guess normies don't know about WPS.

But people wanting something that tasted like apple or grape juice would be disappointed. Both are practically acidic sugar water (keep in mind that filler type white grape juice is a lot different than "normal" grape juice), so any other added flavors are enough to completely overshadow them unless specific effort is put into doing otherwise. I don't see how this is any less misleading in that sense. The original accurately reflects the flavors, while needing a modicum of thought to determine the ingredients. Yours is more clear about the contents, but makes it difficult to ascertain the taste. Given that we already have a mandatory ingredients section on the label, I don't see why the product name needs to be a duplicate of that.

There may not be a way to name it that would satisfy both my and your schools of thought. Arguably the best solution is less fucked proportions of ingredients, or aggressive marketing on the competitor's end to bring to light how fucked the situation is.

Personally, I already avoided juice blends before finding out about this case, unless I saw in the ingredients that it did just consist of the "flavors". IIRC V8 was pretty good about this with at least some of their stuff.

The tricky thing is that many people wouldn't want a "less fucked" juice. Have you ever had 100% blueberry juice? To put a negative spin: it's pungent, a bit bitter and has a rough/grainy mouthfeel. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but the market for these super-sweet juice blends would have no interest in it. Now obviously this is an extreme example, and there's a huge spectrum between that and products that have a teaspoon of the stuff to a gallon. Still, every bit more you add moves it down that spectrum. It doesn't make it better or worse, just different.

While we might not agree on how to name a product, for what it's worth I'd like to see more info in the ingredients section. Something like a divider when the list hits things that make up less than 10% of a product, so instead of just knowing that there's more of one thing than another you have a sense of what the actual proportions are.

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

this is a very controversial thread

i love the discussion

Can restourants actually refuse you entry if they think you dont have the right shirt? Isnt that some sort of discrimination? Or based on gender? I know a caffe bar that allows entry only for women from 10 pm.

Me too.

>"""free""" WiFi
>requires me to execute NON-FREE JavaScript on a login portal

>it's not "free" as in "freedom"
Get the fuck out. If a shop writes free, everyone knows what that means. Trying to worm your way out of it by using words like "complimentary" doesn't resolve the problem of lying to your customers.

Complimentary is a synonym for free, by the way. It's something given to you to entice you to pay more. Not the other way around.

Compl*e*mentary however would be correct.

Who the fuck uses those wi-fi hotspots? Do you not have a cell phone?

>free means not passport protected

wut

I setup my restaurant to give individual wifi codes to customers. The wifi is available for a certain amount of minutes based on the amount of money they spent.

If they want to stay connected, they need to buy more

Is it legal for a restaurant to advertise "free water" but you have to order it?

Of course, kys

>public
>a privately owned restaurant

Kill yourself, idiot. I suggest you use the processing power of your CPU to familiarize yourself with some common world concepts instead of wasting them on a tripcode.

Yes, and I use those wi-fi hotspots with it.