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Why shouldn't I use Arch? Will I be heavily limited in packages or other stuff compared to debian/ubuntu?

First linux but I don't necessarily mind some learning curve since I am not full retard, just new.

Actually arch is one of the distros with most software, because of the AUR. You need to compile them, though. Still, official repositories aren't bad.

humblebundle.com/books/unix-book-bundle

Is the $8 tier worth it? How reputable are O'Reilly books focusing unix rather than programming?

I actually have a few of these as pdfs but would get far more use out of them as ebook formats which seems to be offered here.

Also is there any value at all in the $15 tier given I'm probably only slightly interested in advancing my tcp/ip knowledge and maybe sys admin.

I recently got a Thinkpad and I wanted to use this as an opportunity to try out Linux. I'm torn between Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora. Thoughts?

OP, there is already a thread you fucking retard:

>tfw no pope friend to bless your new hardware

Is Funtoo better than Gentoo? It seems to have a nicer setup system

Ask orthodoxes, they may bless your hardware

The core arch repository is comparatively small next to the big boys, off the top of my head i think its like 9000 packages next to fedora 25's 55,000

But ive never not found a package ive needed in the arch repo, that was in the fedora repo.

Arch is obviously a whole new animal when you consider the AUR which isn't necessarily about the raw amount of packages, but the obscurity of those packages, usually stuff that's hard/ annoying to install that the fedora maintainers for example wouldn't go near

>Upper cases
/triggered/

What are you, case sensitive?

Im a redhat shill and thus you should absolutely be running fedora workstation 25 RN

What fun stuff does /fglt/ do with linux VPS's?

Im running a FreeIPA server on one, which allows me to use the same user accounts over my various linux machines, which i cant believe how useful this is.

I then sync home directories with syncthing. FreeIPA actually manages automount NFS shares, which would be fantastic in a local situation.

also fedora does a lot of package splitting which arch does not so i would expect the fedora repos to have alot more pckages than the arch repos

Thats true, package count is a useless metric anyway.

Give up, nobody wants to communitcate with gay ass tripfags. Also: filtered.

>communicate
some (you)s for you
also: nice quads

Any grub pros here?
I need to install gentoo on my windows ssd which already has an efi partition.
Just installed manjaro to test it and everything is fine, I can even boot directly into windows bypassing grub altogether.
All I did in the installer - made a root partition and mounted my efi partition as /boot/efi.
What command should I use to achieve the same result?
Would this be good?
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot
Or should I add /efi to /boot?
haven't done this shit manually before.

add efi

are you sure? Will grub still install itself into /boot as well? I have a grub folder there.

create an "/boot/efi" directory and mount efi there

once installed it should look like.

"/boot/efi/EFI/grub"

why do cute tripfags always get the gets :3

Severely underrated post right here.

Is my GPU dying?
I recently switched to the Nvidia proprietary drivers and didn't disable the framebuffer, as instructed by a warning in dmesg. Surely that cannot ruin my graphics card? I assume it's just coincidence. Can any other component cause this apart from the GPU?

I'm pretty sure grub was in /boot
efi had EFI in it, which had directories like Manjaro, Windows and some other shit

Sorry if this is only marginally related to GNU/Linux...
I set up a VPN connection on my router and it's working as far as I can tell:
> enable mobile data on phone (WiFi is off)
> connect to VPN from phone
> check public IP on phone
> check public IP on computer (internet connection via router)
> both IPs identical
If I'm reading the router settings correctly, my phone should have the local IPv4 address 192.168.178.201. The computer is 192.168.178.23.
I can ssh / sftp into my computer from the phone when the phone is connected to the LAN via WiFi, this is working as intended.
However, I can't ssh into the computer when the phone is only connected via VPN (WiFi off). Am I just misunderstanding how far the VPN tunnel goes or do I have to set something up differently?

if you have no issues running Xorg , check the card and motherboard's capacitors. power filtering caps can blow and the system will still boot

do you have port forwarding enabled?

X wouldn't start. I also tried the card on Windows and it starts, but says the GPU has an error and is using the fallback VGA driver.
I just found a post with someone who has the same dots and apparently it's a mobo problem. This is a bummer.

Ah, that might be it. Which ones would that be again?

Are nvidia open source drivers fine if I don't plan on doing any gaming?

I took the leap from Windows to Gnome a month back, and I greatly enjoy it.

I've been learning the basics of the basics, the command line utilities, like grep, man, wget, navigating etc.


It's still all the bare rudiments though.
I want to learn more. Chiefly interested in productivity, keeping my files WELL-ORGANIZED, and cool command-line stuff/scripting in general.


Can Sup Forums provide me some resources so I can increase my skillz?

I was kinda looking into getting something like i3 or awesome, does somebody tell me which is better or more usefull for someone with a thinkpad. Just kinda turned on by the idea not having to use the mouse anymore

tty is pretty good if you don't want to use a mouse

sdb1 /boot/efi vfat
sdb5 / ext4

Does this fstab mean that /boot is just a directory on /?

> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
explainshell.com/

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Gnome, is in fact, GNU/Linux/X11/Gnome, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU. Gnome is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Gnome, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Gnome, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Gnome is the Desktop Environment: the collection of programs in the system that make it usable for children. The Desktop Environment is not an essential part of a operating system, and useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Gnome is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system, the X-Window-System and the Linux kernel: the whole system is basically GNU/Linux/X11 with Gnome added, or GNU/Linux/X11/Gnome. All the so-called Gnome distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux/X11/Gnome!

why are there two threads?

One is not enough. We need to defenestrate Sup Forums completly.

Requesting an answer on this one. Does anyone happen to know this info I'm looking for?

Hey Sup Forums, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

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try bunsenlabs

The one I'm using.

the one his using

The one this guy is referring to:

...

Random files and folders in my $HOME are marked as executable (+777). I didn't manually set them to be. Does anybody have a clue why that could be?

Also, what should be the standard permissions for a user-created file? 664?

644 seems to be deafult on mine

How do I learn ssh?
Besides fucking around, any tutorials or books I can follow?

Thanks for the info.

I think I figured it out: new laptop, files and folders were backupped to an NTFS file system on an external HDD. I simply copied those files to /home. The permissions probably weren't changed. Damn. Don't make the same mistake I did, kids!

Did you transfer them from an NTFS partition (read: transferred from Windows)?

What is there to "learn" about it?

self-titled book i hear is a greatest hit

>ssh -p 22 user@ip address here
That's about all you need to know other than processes closing when you log out and needing to use nohup or screen to prevent this from happening.

Wololo

Can somebody please answer?

youtube.com/watch?v=aQvXBXVB8SE MICROSOFT IS BEST OPEN SOURCE COMPANY.

Good thread,

There is nothing to learn.
ssh mylittlepony.com
- and you get a shell (or whatever is configured on the server)
read the manpage, this: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Secure_Shell and this: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys for more

Bad thread,

Bad post.

Good post.

So I'm steadily working my way toward switching to Linux. My plan is to eventually dual-boot, keeping Windows 10 around for games (since WineHQ says only some of my stuff works well in Wine).

But having to turn off my computer and boot into Windows just to play a game sounds like a real pain, so I was wondering if I can just load Steam up in Wine and play my games that way. If not, and if I really do need to go into Windows for my Windows games, how do games with Linux support generally run on Linux? Do they perform worse or better than the Windows version - or does it depend on the game? Should I just suck it up and boot into Windows for gaming?

Also (here's proof that I'm new to Linux), does ease of gaming vary from distro to distro? After some experimentation, I've decided that GNOME 3 is my favorite DE (yes, I know I'm in the minority), and I was told that Fedora is my best bet for a good GNOME 3 experience. But what about for gaming? Would I be better off going with Debian or Ubuntu GNOME?

modprobe -r acpi_cpufreq
says that it failed cause it was still in use.
Even if I blacklist it, it still loads.
I tried to compile it as a module but it must not have worked. Anyone know what options I need when compiling the kernel?

Just buy an SSD mate

What would this do for me?

you wouldn't think that booting into windows would be a pain. and everything just loads a lot faster.

Oh, that's what you mean. Problem is, I'm on a laptop. And the main reason that I consider booting into Windows a pain is that I would have to close my web browser, close everything else I was doing, and switch entirely to a different OS whenever I wanted to play a game. I'll suck it up if I have to, though.

Well, the process of exiting and then rebooting into linux would just be a lot faster if you had an ssd.
gaming in a vm is shit so you will have to do that anyway.
ubuntu gnome should be fine for your purposes. also look into manjaro or arch.

Manjaro and Arch are good for GNOME? I tried installing Arch a little while ago on a different laptop, but ran into a roadblock when I couldn't get the Wi-fi (said laptop doesn't have an Ethernet port) working. Also, I heard Manjaro doesn't have a working Japanese IME, which I need. Does Arch? My main laptop, the one I plan on using for dual-boot, does have an Ethernet port, so installing Arch might go better on it. Though I've heard that Arch is really high-maintenance, and you have to be really on top of things.

And just curious - why not Fedora or Debian? Is it just that Ubuntu GNOME is less hassle? Sorry about all these questions, but you have to start learning somewhere.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

any distro is good for gnome. it's just a DE.

any distro has a japanese IME, there are multiple programs which can provide this functionality. I think ibus-mozc is supposed to be very similar to google ime but be sure to rebind all instances of hankaku/zenkaku to alt ` or whatever you want to cycle between hiragana/direct input.
>I've heard that Arch is really high-maintenance, and you have to be really on top of things.
it isn't that troublesome maintenance wise to be honest.

i don't know much about fedora but i've heard it's not the best if you want to use proprietary drivers, which you pretty much have to in your case. you can just try out a bunch of distros in a vm and see which one you like the best. try out manjaro if you find arch to be "hard"
ubuntu is definitely less hassle than anything else i've mentioned though.

regarding 57662100
look at

Okay, I think I get it now. My "test" laptop currently has Ubuntu GNOME on it, so I'll test Manjaro in a VM on it or something, since it isn't exactly easy to just "try" Arch.

he's correct tho

if it's a test laptop just install manjaro directly onto it. always test on hardware if you can.
>since it isn't exactly easy to just "try" Arch.
not really. you shouldn't have any trouble at all if you just follow the arch wiki.

at 57662125
refer to

@57662125
i love cocks in my butt

Also, completely unrelated problem - by all accounts, my keyboard layout should be "English (US)." Nothing else comes anywhere close to what my keyboard has, and it's what the "detect keyboard" feature of Ubuntu's installer gave me. It's a perfectly ordinary keyboard that looks exactly like any other American keyboard. And yet no matter what distro I try, the backslash/pipe key (located, of course, between Enter and Backspace) always gives me < and >. Every other key on the keyboard works as they should. Am I missing something? Is there a way to remap individual keys?

Yeah, that's what I did the first time. I couldn't get the Wi-fi connected. I guess I can always try again, though.

wew lad

What internet browser would you guys suggest for max battery life?

Ubuntu btw

compile firefox yourself with the useflag battery-optimize

wget -e ROBOTS=OFF --user-agent="Mozilla" -nd -p -r -l 2 -Di.4cdn.org/h/ -A jpg,jpeg,gif Sup Forums.org/h/

Can you get arrested for this?

>user-friendly
>lightweight
Probably Lubuntu.

I've only ever used Ubuntu based distros, but I decided to try the meme and install solus, problem is I don't know my way around the terminal. Can someone point me in the right direction?

no, but moot2 would probably send the police if you downloaded every image on the board. with as much as he cares about bandwidth

>I decided to try the meme and install solus, problem is I don't know my way around the terminal
is this bait

yes
write this in your terminal : sudo delete solus and install a better distro

wget -e robots=off -nd -rHDi.4cdn.org -ERs.jpg,html

· golfed to 52 chars
· no clutter
· all media

Nice, forgot to use -D with -H argh

But is there a way to get only the i.4cdn.org of a single board?

Whenever I try to grab the images inside a thread with a recursion depth of 2 it goes ahead and downloads all the front page visible pics of all the boards

midori

>翠

Which video editor is more simple and efficient for linux or specifically for debian?

ffmpeg - the simple and effficient video editor for Debian GNU/Linux

>But having to turn off my computer and boot into Windows just to play a game sounds like a real pain
It isn't, rebooting should only take a few seconds, maybe a minute tops. The day has 1440 of those; use that time to have a stretch, do some pushups or take a piss.
>if I can just load Steam up in Wine and play my games that way
Steam runs in a virtual Windows-like environment through Wine and I think that extends to any games launched from it. However, the environment doesn't perfectly recreate Windows and thus, compatibility errors may arise. Performance may vary as well. The whole point of dual-booting is that it circumvents the imperfections of Wine's Windows emulation; if it was perfect, nobody would bother infesting their PC with Windows.
>how do games with Linux support generally run on Linux?
The same as games with Windows support: It depends on how good a job the devs did when they optimized the game. Often it doesn't really matter and at least CSS runs just as good on a GNU/Linux as on Windows, if not better. I can't speak for other games. In general: it depends.
>Should I just suck it up and boot into Windows for gaming?
Yes. I don't know about you but I like to dedicate a couple hours to gaming at once, rather than alternating between browsing / listening to music / watching videos / working, and playing games; then again I have a day job and don't have more than maybe 3-4 hours of free time at a time. And again, rebooting doesn't take too long.
>does ease of gaming vary from distro to distro?
I doubt it; certainly not if you're dual-booting.
>Debian or Ubuntu GNOME?
Whichever you like best. Debian's packages are said to be more outdated than the Ubuntu ones. Personally I haven't had issues with Ubuntu yet.

>翠
>being a hipster