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So it seems like the HD 598 CS is black friday bait and is actually a piece of crap.
Looking at alternatives, should I get the MDR-1A or the DT 250?
Alright FRIENDS. My AKG K712 arrived yesterday so here come some HOT OPINIONS.
Pros:
- open AKGs with actual bass wow
- largest sound stage of any headphones I've ever tried, no joke the stereo separation is ridiculous, you won't ever need crossfeed for these
- still a neutral curve, if you're into that like I am
- even better detail than the K612 without as piercing high range
- not very hard to drive (unlike the K612), doesn't NEED an amp
Cons:
- the mini XLR connector isn't "mini" at fucking all and will poke my shoulder if I'm reclining in a thick hoodie
- the real deep sub-bass doesn't wob as hard as a pair of good closed cans, but I'm not sure open cans are physically capable of this anyway
pic related is my current collection. I've tried more than this, but these are the ones I own. As you can tell, I like AKG, but every one so far has something I'd like improved about it. I ordered the K712 expecting an upgraded K612 with more bass, but for the 50 euro price difference I got a lot more this time. If I could sum up these headphones with one word, it'd be "sound stage". As mentioned above, these do something magical in that regard. Combined with a typical AKG neutral curve, add some bass, smooth the characteristic peak around 1kHz, and you get some really believable sound for all genres. Previous open cans I've tried wouldn't sound as great with electronic music (and I'd switch to DT 770 for those), but these mend that balance and do just about every genre great. Definitely worth 200 euros.
Officially worst general.
maki a shit
>K712
>neutral curve
Hot opinions is right.
You're a flaming faggot. I'm sure that's been the common theme of your entire fat life.
>Cant talk about headphones I bought in a headphone general thread
I don't see the issue.
No bass and treble rape, Tyll's compensation makes everything look laid back in the treble.
>So it seems like the HD 598 CS is black friday bait and is actually a piece of crap.
Seems like?
>MDR-1A or the DT 250?
What exactly do you want? These two are different sounding headphones.
Merely just tired of:
>How'd I do?
>Did I do good?
>Is it a meme?
>Is it worth it?
etc
>Seems like?
From the FR graph that got posted, the mixed reviews, and the feeling I've got in my gut that Senn have no values and are milking the black friday sales for all they've got. Some guys from Amazon are snorting coke right now for coming up with this shit.
Might just be the cynic in me though.
>MDR-1A or the DT 250?
Heard these 2 were good for the pricepoint. I'm just looking for something that performs well for the price. In terms of sounds I'd prefer something that's a good all rounder. Won't be having the best of sources either.
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SHITTY MEME WAIFU WHORE
Well, because he models closer to human hearing. I know what a flat curve sounds like and I can hear there's no treble rape on these. My older AKGs have more piercing (high-)treble, my beyers are strongly V-shaped with poor mid/high-mid.
He models closer to his own hearing.
Where'd you see a measurement? I guess I classify as a cynic in nearly everything technology related. MDR-7056 is a model to check out. If those headphone hadn't been measured enough times already, rtings.com posted a review.
More like his preference. I remember him saying in some seminar that he regrets using the ID target. It really makes very little sense to go with it, even if someone were to consider that as neutral.
reposting hehe
>Budget
100-150 usd
>Location
usa
>Source
laptop or computer; i have a huge amp for large speakers that is currently connected to my computer, so if absolutely necessary i could use it for headphones too, but it's not ideal. i'm not exactly too fond of buying another amp, so i've mainly been considering headphones that don't need one
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed, but only because i need them to not leak. sound quality of open/closed isn't my main priority
>Comfort level
very very high ;^) totally willing to do some modifying
>Sound signature
neutral or slightly warm. would like to be able to do some studio monitoring, and lots of general listening. do you think that's too much to ask at this price point?
>Past headphones
sony mdr xb500. decent, but they're a little too bass heavy and not super comfortable
i'm considering:
fostex t50rp
beyerdynamic custom one pro
m50x
sennheiser hd 280 pro
mdrv6 / 7506
akg 553
but, i'm really having a hard time deciding. any suggestions?
get the Philips SHP9500
those are open-back... i assume they would leak too much
I gave you some short impressions on those models and the XPT100 as an alternative.
That's a bright open back headphone.
Still waiting for my senny 598cs but just in case they suck I'm looking for alternatives. What are some good open back headphones with some thicc bass and good soundstage? Budget is 200.
get cd900st
oops sorry, i didn't see your post last thread. im apprehensive to the size and weight of the xpt100, but i have heard good things. ( )
i think custom one pro / t50rp are the main two that im considering now.
if i can use my non-amped laptop / phone with my 40ohm xb500s, should i expect to be able to use them for 50ohm cans?
ohms are irrelevant
Impedance is not important. Fostex is quite insensitive whereas Custom One Pro will likely be easily driven by the devices you have. Both of those devices act as headphone amplifiers albeit probably not as very powerful ones so you might need a more powerful amplifier for the Fostex.
again get the K553
...
Isn't akg going out of business because their headphones are shit
the dt250 should be at the top
mfw the dt250s are exactly the same as the v6 except the byers are made all of plastic and $100 more
and they are more neutral and don't have steely highs that kill your ears like most beyers
7506/v6 are a meme
/hfg/ FAQ
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;HEADPHONES
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HD558s are tinny and veiled with no bass and poor build quality
M50s are meme phones with no soundstage and clamp like a bitch which causes them to hurt after 2 hours of use not to mention has nigger bass
DT660/770/880/990/10100 all have nigger bass with ear rape treble no mids
ETYs have no bass and literally rape your ears
MA900s are muddy and flimsy
MDR-V6/7506s are all bright pieces of shit
DT250s are ripoffs of the V6/7506 with a detachable cable and at twice the price not to mention it is compleatly made form plastic
HD800s are bright pieces of shit
HD600s look like my kitchen counter
AKGs are for weebo man children
K701s has skull bumps
Q701s aka K701 with shit colors
K812s and K712 has nigger bass and is as good as Beats
BAKA 1000s are rippoffs of the V6/7506 and even says so on the box
Fidelio X1s are ... wait what the fuck are X1s; who even owns this? Fuck it I'll just say it has nigger bass.
AD700/900s are >no bass, trebly shit, weird-wing-things, muh competitive gaymen, something like that.
AKG K7XX is a shity toy made in china from left over parts and sound like an 80 year old with parkinson's on cocaine
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;AMPS AND DACS
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Schiits are shit hiss monsters
Any DAC over $150 is nothing but snake oil
Fiios are cheap chink shit
Little Dots are colored shit that runs hot enough to cook eggs and require more maintenance and cost more than the superior solid state amps
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you forgot the K702 being garbage in every way
>anything beyerdynamic that high
lol
you're right k550/k553 should be at the bottom
Are senns still tinny and veiled?
akgs are tinny senns are veiled
that k55x whatever and fostex can be moved to their own category of "never recommend to anyone"
So, I might as well get a second opinion:
>Budget
up to 250€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC mainly, but also TV, meaning 3.5mm Jack or this Audio optical link.
>Type of headphone
Wireless full sized
>Open or closed
preferably closed, but will accept open if sound quality is superior.
>Comfort level
Comfy, but they need to sit tight as well because I move my head a lot.
>Sound signature
even, but tending to bass is okay too.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser:
HD 424 can't complain, they still work, but they are not wireless.
HD457 kinda meh, also broke
(some wireless/wired that I forgot because they were meh)
RS120 - best wireless I ever had, but prone to interferences. In use for 8 years until they literally fell apart.
I looked so far at the Sennheiser RS 185, but I don't now how this digital lag issue really manifests.
Pro: it's currently for sale
Con: I fear the bang for buck isn't that good on that one, even for 240€
I might just get one and send it back if it sucks.
I'm also open for others.
bose qc35
get the akg K 845BT
>Budget
Around $150
>Location
New Zealand
>Source
Computer
>Type of headphone
Full-Sized
>Open or closed
Doesn't bother me but closed is preferable
>Comfort level
Something I can wear for long spans of time
>Sound signature
Doesn't bother me as long as it has clear audio
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That's one cute Maki.
Too expensive unfortunately
Will have a look at that.
thanks!
She would be cuter if she was getting fucked ;^)
pro monitor headphones from jaycar, they're brainwavz hm5s
>So it seems like the HD 598 CS is black friday bait and is actually a piece of crap.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>the feeling I've got in my gut
You've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties.
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
not him but see
so I looked over and need a final sell on any of these headphone. I would prefer Open or semi open so I can be aware of my suroundings. I looked at the SPH9500 and the AKG K240 both are around 50~60$ semi-open. Which of the 2 is better? Most importantly in comfort. Also was looking at the ATH-M40x which is 20$ more but I heard good things about. Only thing is that it's closed back. These are my first quality headphones I've only had gaymer styled headsets before.
DT 880 or 770
Well the thing about the 598CS is that it was made to be sold at $99. So you're not getting a $200 headphone discounted by half, you're getting a full price $99. Which would be shit. That's what it looks like to me, and as the reviews start coming in we will see.
I'm going to post here again, please don't shitpost.
Which cheap and somewhat portable (not self-powered portable, but small) amp + dac should I get for my hd 598s. My laptop is generally fine by itself but the jack input is faulty, and with my mp3 player or phone I can get volume but it's not the good kind of volume. My budget is around $120 Canadian.
did hifiman change the plug on the re-400? the ones i see pictured go off at a 45 degree angle, and mine goes straight down at a 90 degree angle.
X2 or K7XX?
Whichever is cheaper, they're both great.
get the phillips AKG is shit
X2
X2 only because the build quality is much better [unless you want to change pads, but you shouldnt need to. they comfy]
SHP9500 are better.
K240's are a bit darker, but arent as comfy due to circle pads, rather than ear shaped pads. Both are built well
M40x are good, but only once you change the pads. The stock ones are complete dogshit. It'll cost a bit more so its up to you. SHP9500's are good affordable cans. I'd get em.
K7XX for dat soundstage. Philips QC is also shit.
i took the bait and i know nothing about headphones, how fucked am I?
i am currently using some $300 bose shit from 2013, am I at least upgrading? plz help Sup Forums before i just off bridge
k7xx are built like shit they fucking rattle
If they're already on the way just have a listen and decide whether to return them or not. Not really fucked, just could be inconvenienced.
Should i buy a pair of stax?
HD650>Stax
You say built like shit as if you need them to stop bullets or something. They're light, the X2s are heavy in comparison and have cancer pads that dye the side of your head black.
Great description of the k712 there. I like your no nonsense back to basics style.
I would only add that apart from sound stage it also packs in a whopping amount of detail. Voices are rendered with extreme clarity, and can sound more life like than with most other headphones with a good recording.
Thanks! Gonna be getting the SHP9500 then
Maybe? What are you looking for?
In general, Stax:
-Require bias voltage to charge the diaphragms. This requires specialized equipment, as if the extreme voltage insensitivity didn't already suggest that.
-Have absolutely no isolation, and leak more sound than other conventional open-backed moving coil headphones
-Have a much stronger "house curve" than other manufacturers. The sound of Stax is more consistent throughout the product range than just about any other manufacturer, except perhaps Etymotic.
-Are electrostatic planars. Drivers should seal an air cavity (barring SR-007mk2 and later) in the enclosure, and they can crinkle a bit when putting them on. A tight seal is required for low frequency reproduction. They can do a great job with low frequencies given that constraint..
-Flat bass (ideally), boosted at 1-1.4 kHz, peak around 10kHz or so.
>$300 bose shit
Wew lad, anything is an upgrade from that.
Walk into an audio store and try the snapheiser hd 600 if you can afford it.
Never buy headphones without testing them beforehand.
Opinions on Custom One Pros?
I can get a second hand pair for $120 USD, so I have no issue modifying them if they benefit from anything like that.
E10k, or Schiit Fulla
Both are small and pretty damn good.
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I got some custom studios before, if they're anything like that they're highly underrated. Pretty much Beyers without the treble peak and tuned for casual use. Not super resolving but much easier to listen to. Bass port is a nice feature.
good old /csg/
shitpost central of Sup Forums
>testing them
wtf I just buy what ever pair my qt waifu wears and that happens to be the k701
Cool. I was looking into them since the DT770s are too sharp for my liking. Apparently the pads on the Custom Ones arent too great though. Might just put normal beyer/akg pads on them tho.
I've read that the E10k is lacking, but that might just be people that think bass roaring over everything else in the spectrum is a good thing.
The Fulla costs too much for what little it does. Is the M3 as good as I've heard? It's a bit too large to be usable with an mp3 player.
I'd buy a few if that weren't ridiculous given for that price I could get a really good portable.
Ur waifu a shit.
Nah, E10k is fine. Its pretty damn transparent, especially for the price.
If you want a cheaper alternative, you might want to look at the FiiO K1
Dunno if non self-powered DACs are gonna power whatever headphones youre listening to. I assume youre using a phone, so I'm not sure how that would end up.
Planning on buying something in the middle of December. Need a bit of a recommendation.
>Budget
$250ish USD for headphones, I don't mind going past my budget for an amp and dac though
>Location
California USA
>Source
ASUS z87-a motherboard
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed. I have a fan in my room that I turn on in the summer that's quite loud, I'd also prefer not to leak noise to bother my roommates, or let them know when I watch porn.
>Comfort level
I'm at my computer 90% of Time while I'm at home, so I need something nice to wear
>Sound signature
Plan on using this to play games mostly. I also listen to a bunch of music, mostly rap, but I do like to listen to classical music pretty frequently too. Occasional electronic and dance music.
vocals and base are most important to me.
Currently looking at the beyerdynamic dt880 premium, it seems to check all my boxes. I find that the 600 ohm model is cheaper than the others, usually by about $20-30. the Sup Forums wiki already recommended that I grab a dac and amp with these headphones anyway, so I'd like some recommendations on those if possible.
880's are semi-open
not like T50RP semi-open either
they probably won't isolate as much as you'd like. I wouldnt worry about bleeding tho.
hd598s have 50 ohms of impedance, which doesn't need much power. A phone should be able to provide enough power although it will obviously brain the battery a lot faster. Maximum volume on my phone is half of what I can get on my laptop, but even comparing the two on those levels my audio played directly through my phone to my headphones sounds really compressed.
ur mum a shit senpai
Any opinions on the FiiO E18K vs Q1 for use with a phone and laptop?
Oh, 598's will be fine.
Impedance means nothing in relation of how difficult a headphone is to drive though. Some stupid speak that people keep parroting without really researching. Most people do it when they're fairly new into audio.
Read this:
apexhifi.com
the 598s sound like listening through straws
>Wew lad, anything is an upgrade from that.
phew, alright cool
for $99 how would you r8 that purchazse?
Not sure why youre replying to me, but okay cool.
O2+ODAC
How comfy are X2s?
Googled this and I found both for about $250. Combined with the dt880s that's way out of my budget. Anything cheaper?
8/8 m8
Schiit Stack
>and with my mp3 player or phone I can get volume but it's not the good kind of volume
Your phone must be pretty shitty then, mine can power my hd 600s in a pinch (It sounds pretty bad though).
You could consider getting a higher end phone I guess.
>(It sounds pretty bad though).
nice meme
external Dacs are the biggest snake oil ever
what?
If you enjoy computer noise, sure.
whats the one in elder god tier? i ordered an akg k553...