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I wasn't aware of how useful Linux Mint is · runs programs · you can install more programs · 99% of what you now from ubuntu still works
Jonathan Walker
Have you guys seen the Humble Book Bundle? It's a bunch of unix stuff pic related.
Which ones are recommended, if any at all for a linux bab like me?
Cameron Reed
I just want to let you know that I love all of you. Really.
Chase Smith
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Levi Garcia
tmux: Change the bindings, change your life
Anthony Bennett
Check the copypasta stuff in OP for the shell pasta. In my very holy opinion, when it comes to shell stuff, Greg's wiki is the only good ressource to read. There are so many books full of failures like examples with uppercase variables, useless use of cat, etc. Greg's wiki is simply ebin. Also good: grymoire.com/Unix/ This guy can teach you sed, awk and regex and you'll actually understand it and become a true wizard.
>linux bab
Read LOTS of manpages. Re-Read LOTS of manpages. Repeat.
please access it using a free software web browser such as mozilla firefox or Midori
Juan Perez
Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks! I'm using GNU IceCat, if it matters.
Leo Rivera
since it's perfect answwers thread, I'm using Arch Linux if it matters, and I'm searching for a screenshooter that also captures the mouse pointer
Zachary Young
the gnome screenshot tool has a tickbox that allows you to capture the pointer.
Carson Cruz
i am considering to actually try gentoo. do you have to compile software that you want to use in it? or do you only compile gentoo itself for installation/updating?
i dont care about optimization i just want to try to have it as a desktop OS. i already tried ubuntu and mint
Nolan Davis
what the heck, just checked the manpage and it even supports selecting a screen region
someone please remind me why I'm suing scrot
Owen Walker
if you want a good KDE distro try opensuse if you want a tinker toy try arch if you want an optimized distro try plain debian
gentoo is for masochists
Christian Ortiz
>he fell for the gentoo meme
Bentley Sanchez
because using command line makes u a badass c0mpu73r h4ck3r.
and the funny name
Landon Long
>As seen on %random_persons% screenfetch you can use gnome's screenshot program via cli too
(or jsut use imagemagick like a true haXX0r)
Evan Lopez
Now I'm wondering why I don't have a delete_this-gentoo.png meme in my archives. What the hell.
Logan Martinez
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Lincoln Harris
Seconding imagemagicks import
Camden Lee
Hi, so im still on this arch to USB install... well ended up using YUMI and am noob lost... usually i follow the instructions on the wiki, but i guess yumi does more than i am aware of.
Partitions are created and mounted and just ran the pacman -Syu... which begs the question where am i on the arch install according to their wiki?
i take it that you have to compile every single software you would like to use
i guess i will stay with mint then
Michael Mitchell
archfag here, tbqh, the only reason I'm using arch is the aur, and it's a good readon, proof me wrong
Brayden Brooks
HOLY SHIT NO DUDE, seriously, whatever comes into your mind; it's better than mint install gentoo right now it's not hard, just follow the guide
Oliver Scott
git clone program make make install "the ebin aur"
Samuel Turner
but... mint just werks for me. i use my laptop for web developing, browsing, studying, watching videos/porn, and torrenting. if i can use gentoo for these without compiling entire programs then i would try it. but i am not sure from the answers here
Nathan Sullivan
noob has underestimated his arch question... carry on
Isaiah Baker
Use Mint as long as it works for you. If something happened(TM) come back. The problem with Mint is basically that it doesn't get security updates and if you enable them manually, you can break it. That's why people recommend not to use Linux Mint..
Brandon Edwards
WHY IS IT RECOMMEDED THEN BY SO MANY TECH BLOGS? GOOGLE BEST DISTRO FIRST RESULTS: UBUNTU / MINT
Noah Stewart
arch inst that hard if on hdd using vb. done it 2-3 times, but now i want to do it on the usb and it seems i can get vb working, so now trying other alternatives and not sure of how far they go with the install as i see partitions created and my sdb1 is already mounted, so am at lost with this arch usb stuff? any good videos u can share on live arch usb?
Wyatt Roberts
are you too retarded that you can't stop yourself from installing it? you shouldn't be using a computer in the first place then
Levi Lewis
Normalfags. >guise, mint is just like windows, get it!!! it just werks while having no idea about gnu/linux in general
Nathaniel Phillips
I'm not, but I don't support developers who support nonfree software. I'm aware that I can add a license filter, which is cool, but a) it should be default b) devs shouldn't recommend and give instructions to install malware
Jeremiah Scott
nah it shouldn't be anything but what the devs decide. i'm glad they aren't so retarded as to stop other people who need malware from installing it just because of a few autists like you who can't control their compulsions to install all the software they see (a habit from their windows days) that's according to your shitty opinion and nobody really cares about that especially not the people involved in maintaining gentoo so yeah, tough luck buddy
It would be okayish if they would add a disclaimer and inform the users about surveillence and PRISM, or at least warn them and add link, but they don't.
Robert Russell
i'm sure it's fine as most articles on that wiki, the arch wiki is overall better though you have to be literally brain dead to not know about this beforehand. or are you really telling me someone is going to install a niche distro and not know this? i guess they deserve it then. i don't think people should be prohibited from doing harm to themselves if they really are that retarded. >It would be okayish why do you think your arbitrary metric matters here? why do you think you can prohibit people from installing something they want even if it's total shit. you can tell them about it, no need to try and stop them from downloading it since that isn't going to work anyway and you'll just make yourself look like a retard, which wasn't that hard to begin with
Ryan Myers
nigger, you can jump out of the window right now, but would you recommend it to your kids and tell them exactly how to do it, so they die whatever happens? there are things that are cool and there are things that aren't cool and things that arent cool is spreading buttcheeks for the nsa in the holy name of gentoo
William Reed
Why even reply if you didn't read the conversaton and the related article?
Aaron Johnson
^(skip 1 post) literally couldn't comprehend your retarded post try again next time or something idk. just felt like replying is there a problem with that? are you gonna try and stop me from posting here as well?
Nathan Thompson
How can you take a screenshot by selecting a rectangle, and not leave that inverted line on the left and top?
For example, scrot and import -quality 100 -window root -crop $(xrectsel) +repage "/tmp/out.png"
do it.
Samuel Diaz
read the copypasta in OP and check the screenshot pasta there are basically 3 solutions a) kill your compositor b) use xrectsel c) find a program with hacks (locking the X11 selections will give you clean screenshot but also lead to faggotry)
Your best bet is to use the screemshooter your DE ships, since they're basically all c tier.
Nathan Cox
>but would you recommend it to your kids and tell them exactly how to do it, i wouldn't recommend it but i wouldn't try to shield them from reality and tell them that they won't hurt themselves by doing so i'll leave the possibility open so to speak
Jeremiah Jones
>kill your compositor Thanks, that works.
Jack Gonzalez
nice strawman
Jackson Baker
where exactly did you notice a "strawman"
Elijah Ortiz
The bad side effect is that you don't get transparency. Get xrectsel or slop to calculate the region and use import to screen it. I guess everyone of us has a script like that.
Austin Taylor
>try to shield them from reality didn't he actually request reality here:
Julian Wright
Thats not the same user, newfag
Anthony Ortiz
>he thinks that Anonymous is different persons you need to go back:
Luke Gutierrez
found the redditor
Samuel Allen
install trisquel
Anthony Wood
nah he tries to deny its existence by trying to say that developers shouldn't include info on proprietary software i mean if you have such a compulsion to install proprietary software that you need all mentions of it purged from the internet then you shouldn't be using a computer. easy enough right? or at least do it under supervision so you don't spread your mental illness to other people through the internet.
Cameron Brooks
... or just get Debian unstable and ignore the wiki
same with gentoo, btw
Elijah Morris
I guess you're right and at this point its just about ideology and support, so here my ideology and support: Why supporting people who recommend nonfree software?
Blake Perez
That question was already answered at the last thread:
Jordan Morgan
>he pretends that he doesnt use proprietary software kek
Alexander Martin
that answers the why use but not the why support
Justin Richardson
Isn't it basically the same thing?
Elijah Price
doesn't it make it even worse? >microsoft forces skype on people >nsa collects skype data >everyone uses skype when you use skype, you support the "you can communitcate with me, but only if you have skype" thing, which leads to supporting surveillence
Elijah Wilson
>this is what these delusional fags truly believe i guess your definition of "forces" and "everyone" is pretty different from the one normal people use
Easton Foster
He's not wrong. I installed skype 2 times, just because I don't wanted to be the "weird guy". At this point you actually ask youself if literally everyone around you is a tech illiteratre, which isn't bad, but stuff like wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Skype or wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/skype doesn't help, right.
Owen Perry
>replies to bait please go to Sup Forums, read the OP (should be addedd to Sup Forums IMHO)
Thomas Gutierrez
so did someone force you to install it? because that's what he said microsoft does. do they have some kind of armed forces which force people to install and use skype? i can't tell if you're serious or not. do you seriously think that every time some one disagrees with your obviously wrong views he is baiting? must be a pretty sad life your'e living.
Bentley Gutierrez
>eh, chicka, what's ur phone done
Matthew Fisher
>he thinks anyone gives a fuck about the wikis of two obscure distros Go outside some time. You'll find that most people don't even know what Arch is. I know, big surprise right?
Aaron Richardson
It's actually saddening.
Oliver Wood
>>eh, chicka, what's ur phone ZU 0666’, 0, 0; Drop Database Table
Jack Scott
found rm -rf / guy
Seriously, so you guys even... no you don't. reddit everwhere
Juan Diaz
epic as they say on reddit.com
Charles Williams
this >current year computer basics should be tought in school already
Elijah Mitchell
>Good morning everyone >>Good morning dr ovbious >Today's topic: arch and the dank memes >>YEEEEEEAAAAAH
Charles Price
>thinking that teaching something in schools will result in more people caring about it You really should go out some time. That or just stop making any statements about the outside world.
Logan White
I'm on Arch if it matters and I diagree with this post.
Juan Morris
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Isaiah Harris
Reminder to contrubite to our amazeballs /wg/ thread: OC highly welcome!
John Price
Just cut out this meme person, not sure what to do with it. Please help.
Carson Gutierrez
I'm doing all the Videos in the Linux section on install Gentoo. But I'm confused as to witch order to do them in?
Id think I'm a medium lvl wizard where should I start?
Austin Edwards
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Hudson Jackson
install gentoo
Dominic Turner
evil
Landon Hill
why?
Isaiah Price
Torvalds actually dislikes GPLv3 (says, GPLv3 should be a new licence, not an upgrade).
Long story short: GPLv2 had a grayzone, which allowed people to ship hardware with GNU/Linux systems, which had restrictions, eg: you could run the system, check the source, but you can't change the source and/or run your own version. Hashchecks fordbit that. More about the topic here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization GPLv3 got related upgrades, that make sure that GPL software has all 4 freedoms gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html even in such systems. Torvalds thinks, that it restricts the developers freedoms, while RMS thinks, such restrictions restrict the users freedoms.