Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
Should I get this? It looks like a good deal but I'm not sure...
Ayden Davis
>1366x768
kek you niggers are such cucks.
Zachary Howard
>16:9 >cuck pick two 4:3 masterrace reporting in
Tyler Harris
Looks good, it is an S so upgrades are going to be a pain, as are thermals. A 120gb ssd might be limiting unless you either dont mind using alot of external storage or just dont use that much space
Owen Gonzalez
What are recommended upgrades for a x201?
Does it make sense to install the Intel Management Engine firmware update? From its version history (pic related) it seems like it's mostly more features added to the AMT backdoor, for instance >Added VeriSign RSA_SHA256 and Cybertrust Root Certificate hashes Do these hashes enable more entities to make use of the backdoor?
Had anyone encountered problems after an upgrade of the regular BIOS of the x201? One person mentioned that after the upgrade the system started displaying an error on each boot requiring a key press to continue booting.
Lincoln Gonzalez
Is the heat really a problem on these ones? Like to the point where you wouldn't want it on your lap for long?
Grayson Russell
It will get hot as fuck like any laptop but because ita more compact the vents and heatsink are slightly smaller, so temps are going to be high and you might slowroast your balls This also limits what you can upgrade to. Any higher tdp processor is going to be dramatically hotter
Sebastian Green
Never had any problems with heat on mine, first thing I did was repaste though.
Blake Hughes
Good to know. How is the battery life?
Benjamin Sanders
Crappy, had a battery with still 2/3 of original charge and I got 1.5 - 2 hours with half screen brightness. Recently upgraded to t430s which is much better. You could of course add an ultrabay battery but I didn't bother.
Jaxon Adams
Got a W500 and the fuggin thing broke its case, the metal hinge has sheared and split the surrounding plastic. So much for ThinkPad build quality....
Colton Wright
First for Master Race.
Oliver Bailey
RIP My W530 has seen some heavy abuse in the past year and hasn't had any issues with build quality. It seems that the hinges are problematic for other people though (needing to be loosened or re-greased)
Liam Myers
I have a T420, but I want Libreboot. Can I just swap mobos with a T400? Or is that asking for trouble, and I should just get a whole new machine?
Landon Anderson
New X260 shows up tomorrow. Should I even bother booting it for the first time into windows? Or should I just go directly into installing Linux?
Chase Garcia
Anybody has experience with used Thinkpads from companies?
There are a lot of them at eBay.
Brandon White
I'm running the latest Xubuntu on my x220 and I am having issues with waking up from suspend when I close my laptop lid. I will close it, then the moon icon will light up a few seconds later. I open it, enter my password, then it freezes up immediately. I have to force shutdown, I cannot do anything at all when it freezes.
Anyone else experience this with Ubuntu 16 on an x220? I can't find a solution anywhere and I'm starting to think its a thinkpad issue rather than a linux issue.
Wyatt Phillips
>New Might as well boot into Windows, you've already missed the point.
Ryder Barnes
As long as there is no BIOS password set, you should be fine.
Hunter Ortiz
u wot m8
linux works just fine on x260
Logan Hall
Is it worth to buy T530 for around 131 USD? I see one on polish auction site, and well it is quite rekt, but really the only thing that has to be replaced is the case, will post photos of in the next posts. It is 4 GB model, but I would probably buy it for replacing my X220.
Dominic King
...
Sebastian Gomez
No I mean you buy a ThinkPad because used they're cheap but dependable machines for the poor as fuck.
Ayden Davis
ctrl+f t440
did i fuck up buying this thing?
Julian Ramirez
People don't like the *40 generation because it got a bit too Mac by removing the mouse buttons and instead making them part of the touchpad which makes using the Trackpoint harder.
Jaxon Stewart
>windows 10 >master race :^) well memed friend
Grayson Harris
>tfw T440P they get better if you change the trackpad and screen. plebbit has a thread with useful info but as far as the bios whitelist you are done goofed unless you can contact the modder at bios-mods.com and trust me I've tried. Currenlty looking for alternatives to do it my self but im lost.
also this
John Ross
...I bought a ThinkPad because I needed a laptop that had good battery life, decent specs for work, and ran Linux without any issues. I don't really care about price, cause I'm not poor.
Alexander Price
>I don't really care about price, cause I'm not poor. >cause I'm not poor. >Lurking Sup Forums You think this is a motherfucking game? . . . Nah, fair enough tbqh.
Christian Lewis
What makes Thinkpads different from other laptops?
Jaxson Harris
just got my x220 today. does anyone know where i can get a legit windows 7 pro iso without pajeet trying to fondle my internals?
Lucas Price
Read the OP
Tyler Reyes
Yeah...just saw. Feel like an idiot now
Ethan Phillips
lurk, lurk, lurk
this is the only way user
Joseph Kelly
Can you get an injury from using a trackpoint too often? My touchpad is killing me.
Hunter Sanchez
Start to stretch your wrists and make push ups
IMO the track point just strains different areas. It's still better than a touchpad though.
Zachary Long
best 8gb ssd Laptop under $200 go go go
Nicholas Brooks
I'd like to upgrade the 2x4 gigs of ram to 2x8 in my t420. Any recommendations? Also, if 1600 mhz is cheaper than 1333 MHz, should I just go for them?
Oliver Rivera
I think there's a chromebook with 8GB storage for that much.
Jason Anderson
x220 still with a 2011 bios. should i update it?
you guys will probably say no.
Leo Ramirez
i looked at the same one. but i did go through a shit ton of pages.
watch when you post ebay links here because i did that and someone bought it lmao.
Ryder Brooks
all ram is the same shit just get the cheapest one
and custom bios unlocks up to 1866mhz so yeah get whatever
Eli Gutierrez
No tips at all as to how to upgrade a x201? Nobody uses them anymore?
How about the ME firmware upgrade, anyone done it at all? Generally what steps do you take to try and neutralize ME/AMT as much as possible?
Jackson Hill
I have also been asking about firmware updates, but no replies so far. It seems more and more difficult to find any non-trivial info in these threads, it all seems like mostly just sperging out over whether someone overpaid/underpaid a t420 or x220 by some $5 .
Dominic Ross
Not much anymore tbqh. In a few years these threads won't exist anymore, or will pop up only every now and then just like the CRT threads do.
Joshua Baker
Why is t420 recommended? Seems to me to be the worst deal in the --20 gen
Kevin Moore
Anyone have a Thinkpad 13? It's looking really attractive to me right now with the prices.
I had an i5 x220 that's broken, and I wanted to upgrade.
Charles Turner
If what you're doing can be done on something other than w10 I'm sorry, but you're not important
Matthew Sanchez
My x201T's speakers will randomly cut out. I'm running Mint, but I think it did it on Windows, also. What do?
Kevin Reed
how so
Jayden Morgan
I imagine that you probably have a more limited supply over there, so if you are ok with a wrecked case, it is probably alright. Dunno about T530 resolutions, though.
Luis Campbell
What you're trying to say? That all the things that are possibly important can only be done on Windows 10? If so, you're a moron.
Samuel Sanders
There's a few T420s very close to that on eBay with those specs.
Jacob Sanders
That'sexactly my sentiment. All the business grade software that matters is windows exclusive.
Robert Flores
Am I the only Thinkpad fan that doesn't give a fuck about the trackpoint?
Asher Garcia
I found at T430 with "BIOS password set - only read access available."
How bad is this?
Matthew Harris
Have faith, we will find vindication in January, brother
Blake Lopez
I just picked up a t420 and it idles around 60C. Is this normal? Just looking around google didn't help.
Parker Evans
I use an external without exception tbqh
Kayden Carter
I've never really tried using it
Parker Richardson
My W520 temps seem to be way to high, the MOBO gets to around 65c and the CPU to 60c. Does anyone have any advice for lowering the temps? I know that I can take out the cpu, clean the fan, and reapply some themal paste, but will the MOBO also decrease in temperature if I do this?
Julian Evans
you can't change anything in the bios
no it's not, replace thermal paste and clean the fan
Jaxon Ortiz
Never update a BIOS unless there's a reason to. Do you need a feature from the later bios? If not don't update.
Anything past X220/T420/T520 has a bullshit chiclet "keyboard" with a fucked-up layout and a hugeass touchpad, then also missing physical trackpoint keys. Then came the Superfish debacle which took any possibly remaining faith in Chinknovo coming to their senses away.
Not to mention, these threads have become a bullshit discussion where noting really insightful or relevant is discussed anymore beyond what you can google yourself in a minute or two.
The Thinkpad is no more. Even Scott Mueller who has always been endorsing Thinkpads doesn't recommend them anymore. Stock up on whatever you consider the last good or bearable model, because nothing better is expected to ever surface again under this brand.
Benjamin Long
Anyone here with an i7 2640m (the dual core one) kind enough to post a capture of the CPU-Z benchmark scores at max performance?
just look for "untouched iso". You can verify the hash or something if you're that paranoid.
Andrew Bell
No, I don't use it because I personally can't stand it over a trackpad. People rave about it being "more precise" when it isn't whatsoever. If I'm wrong, someone please explain to me how it is.
Caleb Powell
you have to be young to understand
Nolan Wilson
You think Trump will force IBM to get their PC business back and make Thinkpads great again?
Eli Price
Just got a T420s and it won't boot. When I plug it in, the green power button lights up but nothing happens. I've tried all the bs that people tell you to try with the holding down of the power button and removal of ram and battery. Any tips?
Jonathan Butler
No, it certainly isn't. You have to clean the cooling system, for best results dismount the heatsink and reapply thermal compound.
Josiah Fisher
Yeah I just did that gonna let it settle in. But not looking too good. Its still in the mid to low 60's gonna try to get better paste and see what happens.
Andrew Reed
What do you guys think of the high end thinkpads, perticularly the p50? Worth the money? Need a machine for heavy use.
Anthony Cox
idk yo
Chase Campbell
ask a seller
Jonathan Rivera
Dumb question:
On a T420, I can install a mSATA hard drive *in addition to* the WiFi card, right?
And are there any better WiFi cards I can install? This one is pretty antiquated. I'm sure USB would be better, but internal is the lowest profile of all...
Carter Cox
Since when eveyone started calling touchpad as trackpad?
Brody Torres
without bios mod you can install up to Intel Ultimate-N 6300. With bios mod you can install intel 7260ac card. mSATA port is only for WWAN and mSATA.
Aaron Wood
I think these subhumans mean trackpoint instead of trackpad
Blake Lewis
I dont have windows so i cant post a cpu-z benchmark, but here is a novabench one.
Yes, there is an mSATA slot along with the Wifi slot.
Josiah Perry
No, these subhumans clearly know the difference, i think it's an Apple meme name for their touchpad to mimick IBM's naming strategy like how they did with Think """Different""".
Austin Turner
No, we are referring to it like touchpad. The terms mean the same thing.
Gavin Diaz
>2k 16 >still waiting for x61 libreboot
Isaac Thompson
>still being too poor to get a proper thinkpad time to get a job, stupid frog poster
Parker Wood
I don't want to pay someone to spy on me, intelligent textposter.
Jason Diaz
Better than nothing i guess, thanks.
I'm trying to measure how the single core performance of the 2640m is and CPU-Z scores are what I'm used to.
I fell into the quad core CPU meme and while heat isn't an issue at all, now i realized that most of the shit i do is more single core focused.
So there's a t420 for $130 and a x220 for $100 on my local craigslist right now. Both i5, 300GB HDD, the first with 6GB RAM and the second with 8, and the x220 is stated to be in 'good' condition with some white spots on the screen while the T420 is 'excellent'.
What do you guys think? When I call them, what should I be asking?
I like the idea of a smaller, portable laptop, so I'm leaning to the x220 though I'm wondering if it'd be hard to replace the screen. What advantages/disadvantages are there between it and the T420 besides size and weight? Can they both be upgraded similarly? I heard the x220 can only have one hard drive compared to two on the T420.
Bentley Baker
I have P50 and I don't like it very much. It's mainly because it's just disappointing compared to older Thinkpads. Maybe it's fine for you.
Noah Lewis
It's not hard to replace the screen. You can get the lenovo IPS for like $60 and all it takes is popping off the screen bezel and unscrewing it
Kevin Campbell
Quick question guys: T420 vs T520 Both with same specs Which is better? Is screensize the only difference? I've read that T420 has nvidia optimus gpu so it can support additional screens and T520 supports quad core cpu. So T520 doesnt support multidisplay and T420 cant have quad core cpu or what?
Isaiah James
I installed my X62 motherboard today and it's currently working (for now). Ask me things if you're interested
Zachary Rodriguez
Sorry I didn't answer your second question. Both the x220 and T420 have mSATA and a SATA port, so yes you can put an mSATA drive and an HDD/SSD in the standard slot.
Mason Bennett
Thank you. I hear the mSATA is a no-go if there's a wireless card in place. Is that true?
