VR not selling

Looks like vr is DOA this holiday season. Is it dead tech or is this just a reality check?

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It's not dead, because the experience is pretty cool.

It just requires more time. The headsets and interfaces need to get better and VR-capable systems need to become cheaper.

VR is selling incredibly well, you're just still trapped in a virtual world

You have to wake up

>VR is selling incredibly well,
stop spreading false news

shit if i had a room for vr and $800 id get it but me and most people dont

Even if it was cheap, it doesn't guarantee that people will be using it for long. Alot of people have their VR headsets gathering dust.

just like wii remotes. Its motion controls all over again...

VR is to expensive, and generally its games suck. IMHO

wait for Star Citizen VR

It's just not good enough yet.
No gaems.
Headsets are too bulky, need to reduce mass or improve the head mounting system a lot.
They need to have about 4-8 times the pixels they have now to not be low-res eyerape to a decent pair of eyes; good enough eye tracking could make that viable on current or next-gen GPUs, at least.
Controls could probably be improved too, at least for games that don't involve the player sitting in a cockpit.

they should re-purpose it as a augmented reality

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Too expensive, requires far too powerful and expensive hardware to run at half decent resolutions and there's not that much content out there for it.
Not to mention they're fairly big and bulky at the moment.

It's probably going to really shine in the porn sector right off the bat, but it's going to take some time for the general public to adopt it.

>VR

Put a circus ringleader outfit on Zuckerburg, cause this dude is the modern day PT Barnum.

Sucker born every minute.

The only really way vr can get off is on mobiles desu

That way people just buy their phones and pop them in the headsets


However, the experience is not to scratch to a proper vr one. Hardware and software both also suck.

Mostly media consumption (porn?) and casual games and other things

Theres already a 4k phone (Xperia z5 premium), Ive used it for vr for a while and im not gonna say much about anything else but at least the resolution and clarity was good.

Down the road soc will get a lot better, hopefully other companies expand a bit more in Arm like Samsung's Exynos, and Qualcomm gets it shit together after seing apples amazing a10. With better chips, the vr experience should hopefully be more fluid and smooth.

Then it's just to software to do its job.
But that's kinda of the problem. It's a kinda of chicken and egg scenario we saw with wangblows phone. Do people actually have and use vr to buy vr apps? Or are there even any meaningful ones around? Also, it seems devs prefer iOS to android when it comes to app revenue.

iOS vr is a joke due to the crappy resolution displays. What's worse, Apple doesn't really care about vr either.

Google's Daydream is supposed to do some new things but from what I've seen its just another joke Google product, and has no content otherwise.

Maybe they could also do some system where you can plug your phone vr into your PC and use that like a normal vr headset?

There just really needs to be better hardware and more killer apps, hell even just like one killer app.

I would say the biggest weakness is it manages to hit both extremes of the market in exactly the polar opposite ways you would want to.
The only games out, and really the only games you could expect to run even modestly well are casual games without significant focus on gameplay, challenge, or story, yet even those modest examples require ridiculously powerful harware.
Vr requires absurdly high resolutions to be rendered twice at really consistent high framerates to give a convincing and satisfactory experience.

VR is selling very well. All headsets except PSVR are hitting their projected sales.
>"fake news"
CIA operation to shut down leakers. Don't be a cuck for the CIA niggers.

Rec Room VR is blowing up. I think it's the most fun I've ever had in a video game ever. My brother keeps to come over and use the Vive to play that shit.
Also Onward looks fun. I use AltSpaceVR to watch Vive streams with people all the time.

Any good phone porn vr apps out there ?

The headsets and the rigs required are too damn expensive for the normalfag

VR is a dead tech, $599 and $799?

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Even at $199 it's a tough sell

phone based vr isnt dead senpai

I think facebook really hurt the industry by buying oculus. Oculus home is just pure shit and ruins it when I spent so much time on my DK1 and now home just disappeared from my computer and it keeps telling me that it requires certain windows updates which I already have. It's gathering dust since I just don't care at the moment, it has been for a month or so

just like 3d printing was
just like self driving cars will be

I would LOVE to have a reason to buy a HMD man but for what game? It needs a "killer app". Make it so I can use that instead of monitors for general computing, or enjoy non-vr games on it, or release an AAA must-have VR title or something.

I also get car sick instantly on my public bus ride home from college so I may be extremely likely to get motion sick from it.

VR is amazing
The headsets are just too expensive atm and the wire pretty inconvenient

Why does the Vive require so much space for room scale VR? I never see the people using this space with all the cords.

It's 4m*4m

nah mate, self-driving vehicles will replace human transport jobs en masse by mid-century, truck drivers especially.

Highly unlikely.

jesus fuck, I'm living in my parent's basement and their oversized 4000 sq. ft house doesn't have a single open space in it which is that size, especially not one in which I could put a huge PC and tons of cords going everywhere.

>truck drivers especially
Who will kick the sandniggers off the box?

I don't see how, maybe not for in-city applications, but for trucking, what could be better than a truck driver that doesn't sleep, eat, speed, or crash, and that you don't have to pay? It's not like highway driving is difficult either, most point A to point B thing you could have to do.

They've got a self driving bus where I'm from, and it's better than most of the bus drivers.


As for VR headsets, they're too expensive, the hardware is too expensive, and the resolution is too bad. I think room VR is a meme though.

Should have got the vive retard

I want to know why the current VR craze is any different from the 1st one.

For the general consumer its another solution looking for a problem with major upfront costs, setup and use inconveniences with limited content. It offers no competitive advantage in games and the shit display quality and persistence issues will give you eye cancer and motion sickness.

Its motion controls all over again, only this time we strap the display to your face! Very innovative.

A true VR experience would be one that takes over all of you major senses so you actually immersed in a simulated environment but we are a long way away in terms of processing power and medical understanding to sell it to joe blow.

VR is not strapping a shitty display to your face with awkward motion controls and cords to trip over.

>eye cancer
there's no indication of this

>A true VR experience would be one that takes over all of you major senses so you actually immersed in a simulated environment
VR does this right now. We're only missing one major sense now.

>but we are a long way away in terms of processing power and medical understanding to sell it to joe blow.
...no we're not?

>eye cancer
Well meme'd

Also it goes without saying, but you haven't tested HMDs have you?

VR isn't selling well because this is the first fucking year production VR is out. That's like saying
>oh hurr durr 8k TVs aren't selling well this year, must be a dead technology

How fucking retarded are you?

STAY WOKE

I'm buying a vive for christmas, only because I would like to develop for it. I don't see much promise in existing software or in much at all beyond personal 'this is neat' work

>I don't see much promise
Then you are dumb store.steampowered.com/app/496240/

That's what one guy can do with a vive

looks like complete and utter shit

Are you 12? Nobody gives a flying fuck about "muh graffix" when you see it as if you were actually there

>VR does this right now. We're only missing one major sense now.
No it does not. Too far from the ideal function.

Care to expand on that vague statement?

>Looks like vr is DOA

Failure was the only option. Basically every single VR headset is a closed environment.

well I'm not that guy, but I don't see how we have VR for anything beyond sight and sound. Touch is limited to vibrations and there's no taste/smell.

that's the one thing I expect to be fun, and part of why I want to get developing on one. Even so I dunno how long the novelty will last.

you mean like microsoft hololens?

it's like flash memory sticks, 10-15 years ago you had tons of competing formats, but now it's all SD unless you're somebody like Sony. I figure it'll be the same with VR by next decade.

why can't a man rich as zuckerberg afford a health advisor or a personal trainer. he's chubby as fuck.

>Cuckerberg
>Man
Pick one.

ok... why can't a manlet rich as zuckerberg afford a health advisor or a personal trainer. he's chubby as fuck.

Too many ports, not thin enough.

Isn't everybody chubby as fuck?

VR's place is in sims, to replace very expensive large milti monitor setups that have a stationary cockpit, like flight-sims

the rest is meme garbage.

VR has been and will always be a gimmick. I can't see a future where VR games are anything but shitty tech demos.

>effectively blind in left eye
>VR and any kind of 3D effect don't work
>Don't feel like I'm missing anything

I can't handle this edge

3d doesnt need 2 eyes

When i was a kid in the school everybody said don't read the paper too close. Now should i pay something that tires my eyes faster then any tech before? The industry just want to sell me something from the past that failed miserably thanks to worse computation power and stupid layout. No thanks.

>The only really way vr can get off is on mobiles desu
This desu

VR as a platform strives on the software, and if you look at the dedicated VR headset software base, you can see a lot of splits between what headsets are supported by them.

Mobile phone VR is better despite being questionable at best in terms of quality because it's cheaper and not bound to a bunch of wires and controllers. This is pretty much an A+ for normies.

Dedicated VR needs to just be made cheaper and more manageable, and the software base needs to be more spread out so choosing a headset doesn't determine what you will and won't have access to.

I can't handle this mental retardation.

>When i was a kid in the school everybody said don't read the paper too close
That was just a myth

This to a point, onward seems a notable exception to this rule though.

I myself do want to make sims for it though

We already have Onward and it's better than any of your shitty meme games.

Doesn't matter if its 5 bucks. The inherit problem is that the display is strapped to your face and I really don't think I need to spell out the issues with that.

When you get into the issue of moving around a virtual space the whole HMD concept falls flat on its face because if the real world space doesn't match the full size of the simulation you either run out cord or you fucking run into a wall. Nevermind the major problem of zero of tactile feedback of interacting with that virtual world (WiiMotes and Kinect anyone?).

This is why game designers need to put teleportation mechanics and other features to make sure the player is going to be aligned with the tiny environment the player is limited to moving in.

So again, stuff all the pixels, processing power and gizmos to alleviate persistence issues and you are still left with a screen strapped to your face. The above problems been solved since the first generation of VR.

I am not saying HMDs are total shit. They obviously have their applications (would love one for some flight sims or anything application that has the player in a stationary seated position) but mass general consumer entertainment isn't one of them and thats exactly what some companies (Samshit) are doing which is going to set up a lot of people for disappointment when they finally come to terms with how limited the experience is going to be after the honeymoon period.

>The inherit problem is that the display is strapped to your face and I really don't think I need to spell out the issues with that.
No please do, what are the issues with a display on your face? How are they greater than the issues of a display at an arm's length?

>When you get into the issue of moving around a virtual space the whole HMD concept falls flat on its face because if the real world space doesn't match the full size of the simulation you either run out cord or you fucking run into a wall. Nevermind the major problem of zero of tactile feedback of interacting with that virtual world (WiiMotes and Kinect anyone?).
Are you a parrot because I have heard your "opinions" repeated ad nauseum by retards? VR imposes almost no restrictions over its control methods. You can use a pad to move just fine, just look at Onward.

>mass general consumer entertainment isn't one of them
t. "expert"

>Onward

You're shilling garbage user, try something that hasn't been released yet so its easier to trick people.

Some truth to this, vehicle sims work best because they don't have to account for walking (motion sickness from mouse-looking in VR seems to be a pretty big issue right now).

I'm actually fairly optimistic on VR (porn alone is gonna be fucking huge, we just need someone to make an MMD equivalent), but holding off until the kinks are fixed and hardware gets cheaper is wise.

it'll probably always be a niche. Could've been more if it didn't get in bed with big data but a lot of anons no longer have trust in any of the cyber.

>no we're not?
Stop reading r/technology

VR's not gonna catch on in gaming until you can hack your brain and override all your senses directly. That's gotta be like a hundred years away at least.

It's not for "everyone" the user experience needs to be refined, and the price needs to drop down, I don't think it will die but it will take some time to be truly mainstream.

This seems like a reasonable consumer friendly solution to your wire issue.

youtu.be/QL3GONMPxPk

>people think VR will actually die when it has come just in time to solve the issues of men's orgasms being less sensitive to porn

If you don't think this is going to cause a boom in VR and Fleshlights, you are a nutjob.

This.

The tech isnt ready yet, no one wants to wear a heavy brick on their face.

I was just listening to a podcast the other day from Voices of VR. It had one of the first guys to really do VR during the 80s for the airforce. It turns out that when images are projected directly on the retinas of blind iduviduals, they are able to see the image.

Blindness don't matter.

Also, it has gone unmentioned that VR will likely be better in the medical and teaching fields than it ever will be in gaming .

Seriously; whoever gets on this shit first will be rolling in it.

please no. youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs

It's not dead, it's expensive as fuck...

Trouble in your virtual world?

It's just Virtual Boy all over again. We've been there and we've done that. It's just a headache-inducing gimmick, and a faggot standing there with a bulky contraption strapped to his head being sensorily cut-off from his surroundings looks incredibly dumb, and any bystander looking at him thinks "I don't want to be that faggot".

>The tech isnt ready yet, no one wants to wear a heavy brick on their face.
It's dead just like it died in the 90s

>when VR came out I said it would be the 3D craze all over again

If sales are in fact dying, then it is shaping up like it. Wonder what the next thing they want people to buy will be.

Spent my cash on the gaming PC itself

>MMD Equivalent
There already is
It's called Waifu Sex Sim and it's godly, works with MMD models and scripts and there's tons of really decent content for it already. It's like 20GB

Also I only have one screenshot of it lying around and it's from when I injected shaders into it to try and make myself munt

>OMG VR isnt blowing up what do we do the sky is falling!?!?!?!

it's steadily growing it's still niche userbase, it's doing fine and the tech and games are progressing steadily. it might seem slow in a world where everyone expects meme successes each year but in reality it's better this way. the bigger the boom, the worse the bust. if everyone and their grandmother went out and bout vr product "x" and it wasn't perfect the backlash might kill any big vr scene. with the way it is now it will survive, even if the userbase shrinks it will always be around and there will always be some development for it, which is all I expect or need, really. VR not having every AAA IP isn't really a big deal.

Its a too expensive for a mediocre experience and very little well made content.

If the next gen can fix all 3, VR will hit off. Or at least be worth it for enthusiasts.

I havent put on my Vive in months because the time it takes to setup is too bothersome compared to the meagre enjoyment you get out of it.

I personally believe that VR needs to see an intermediate state much like gaming did back in the day.

Before everyone everywhere had an LED illuminated rig that could run any game at any time sitting in their sons bedroom there was the amazing joy of going to the arcade with a pocket of change.

Much like video games had VR needs that leg up of being put into an arcade-esque situation where it's open for public use for a cheap reasonable price and not simply assumed will be ready for home use right from the get go. While they are in an arcade interest in them can be allowed to be built and no one will be put down with the heavy room space and also the fucking INSANE price for that shite.


I intend to open my own VR arcade in my town here not before too long.

On point. VR isn't gonna blow up as in "everybody has a HDM in their living room in a year" but it's gonna keep growing and in a few years most people are gonna be using it. The interest is there, and the tech is ready to offer a satisfying experience. Only the retarded contrarians on 4chin say otherwise with their idiotic "muh virtualboy" tier arguments.

VR is at the stage iphones were a few years back. They were considered cool, but ultimately a niche, and look what happened.

The only relevant question: when will I be able to play F1 in VR?

Formula 1?

Yes

Dunno. Might let the F1 16 devs know you're interested. There's only street racing and rally games now

>mfw people complain about motion sickness
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Do you also get headaches from 3D movies, gramps?

>trying too hard to look dystopian
Only arts majors buy into that shit

Or maybe there's going to be public VR stations like how Asians still use Net Cafes to play their idiotic chink games like Sudden Attack because they can't buy shit

nice ps2-era shovelware

PSVR is the only one that is selling "well".