The school my daughter attends has a "bring your own technology" program. Basically...

The school my daughter attends has a "bring your own technology" program. Basically, the students all need to bring their own laptop to school, and of course all kids at that age want an Apple Mac ("because everyone else has one so I need one too, and my friends say its the best one to get, and blah blah").

The only requirements the school has given is it must run Windows 8.1 or above, Max OS X 10.9 or above, support WPA2, between 11-15 inch screen, and weigh under 1.5Kg. Now I could go and buy a Macbook Air 11" for ~$1200 (1.6GHz/4GB/128GB), or I could use that $1200 and presumably get a lot more bang for my buck in some other brand Windows 10 beastie.

So what's a good spec laptop for around the $1200 price range, and any tips on how to convince the daughter she's better off without an Apple product even though all her friends will probably have one?

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tell the little cunt that if she wants one she works for it.
buy her a shitty chinkpad as a lesson

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Your wife's daughter, you mean..

Why are you buying a kid a 1200 dollar laptop when a 200 dollar laptop will work identically?

Find a school that isn't shit.

When I was buying a laptop for college I originally was going to buy some windows laptop instead of a macbook because I thought I could get more bang out of my buck and that macbooks were overpriced. That turned out to be a mistake, bought a MacBook Air and do not regret it.

Dell XPS 13

2nd hand 2011 mac airs are a great machine - plentiful and affordable

t. 2011 256gb 2.7ghz i5 4gb ram mac air - debian + cinnamon user here

>hands not in the home row position

Hey check it out a Macbook Air for $440

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Don't buy brand new, ya dingus. If Wal-Mart makes you feel too poor, buy from Apple Refurbished.

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wtf

>having children
>taking them to a fancy private school that requires you bring a modern laptop

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>Mac

agreed, you should buy straight from apple. they should be rewarded for their privacy/encryption efforts

I lose

>privacy/encryption efforts
>t. mactoddler shill

How do you know this when you did not buy the other laptop?

Get fucked, even the public school I went to is now requiring devices in class

Granted, that's outside the US, and a chromebook would do 90% of the time

Read experiences on dev forums, saw my friends' windows computers, realized that windows pc manufacturers have fragmented laptop lines and run on razor thin margins which means their laptops are not really meant to last.
I have yet to see any worthwhile non-mac laptop other than surface book (which costs more than a comparable apple) that is worth using.

>t. streetshitter

>better off without an Apple product
she's probably better off with apple than a pc if you're not going to uninstall and replace with a linux distro, at least mac is unix.

17" thinkpad w500 series

Or, fuck em, all theyre gonna do is use google docs and a web browser anyway, pick up a cheap chromebook

Get a secondhand macbook

Your kid is in public school so she is going to come out a drug addict coal-burning SJW.

Any laptop will do, i suggest the cheapest one possible given your unwillingness or inability to buy her a decent education.

>razor thin margins which means their laptops are not really meant to last.

Right, because a piece of shit mac made for $200 and sold for $1000 is going to last so long.

They really do, most Macs last a very long time. For example I still use my iMac 2007, it doesn't feel dated at all. Also source on that $200 claim?

>t. mactoddler shill

It's the same aspie over and over, just ignore him.

$1200 for your fucking elementary or high school kid? This is a great teachable moment, where your kid can learn that things cost money. You don't need to spend 1200 goddamn dollars to write word documents and browse the internet. Who gives a fuck what Sally's faggoty parents got her?
Get her something that isn't ugly, and will do the job (in other words, $500 is more than enough).
$1200, fuck me

The fuck kind of name is "Violet Blue"?

>For example I do nothing but browse facebook on my antique piece of shit that would burn down my neighborhood if used for anything taxing.

Is this elementary, middle or highschool?

Realistically what will they be doing on a laptop? The weight requirement alone is what is going to fuck up the cost here, no way chinkpads weigh less than 1.5KG.

They basically restricted your choices to "ultrabooks". basically new shit.

Consider a laptop that schools actually buy, something like a Thinkpad x131e with an i3. They're really cheap on ebay right now. Or if it must be new.. I'd sugest the cheapest thing around, Inspiron 11, they're close to the $300 mark.

A colorful one.

Holy shit Botjeet, is there a single thread where someone types 'Mac' that you've ever not posted in? Why do you care so much? Are you that much of a loser to post the same 5-10 jpegs cycling through the same little greentexted phrases? You're being a saddo cunt even by Sup Forums standards. Why are you embarrassing yourself like this? You'll either not reply or reply with a one-line greentext.

>t. the same mactard shill that gets paid to shill his overpriced throttling overheating firehazard fruity trash on technology boards

bullshit, every imac from 2008 using El Capitan and earlier needs an SSD upgrade or they lag like molasses

I use it for music production and animation, using software from 2016 (Ableton, Adobe Flash) also for programming (IntelliJ IDEA)

>t. mactoddler

Razer thin margins doesn't mean it's a bad product it just means they make money on volume rather than the unit.

Also razer thin margins mean you're actually getting a better product because what you're paying is closer to the real cost of the parts. Grocery stores and car dealerships for example have margins on the order of 1% to 4%, exception of that are high end dealers and grocery stores, it still doesn't make the product better.

Honestly, just get her a MacBook Air. A girl in elementary doesn't care about bang-for-buck. She wants a pretty Facebook machine to help her fit in. And that's fine, and actually pretty important. You don't want her to end up sticking sharpies in her pooper on the Internet through her ugly ThinkPad for validation.

It lagged initially after updating to Yosemite do to indexing on the HDD but it works fine now

is it fine cuz you're used to it or fine because it doesn't take 6 minuted from pressing to on button to be useable

Don't try to reason with mactards. They believe massive profit margins are somehow good for the consumer. Mactards are literally the definition of cucks.

Right but it also means that the company does not put much thought into the design or hardware quality of the product, because for them it's quantity > quality.
Apple releases only a couple of laptops each year, and has a limited amount of lines. This means that they have a very small but popular product line to focus on and perfect.

Oh and I forgot to mention, the thin margins mean that the manufacturers will be competing on specs alone for the most part, which means less thought goes into build quality, longevity, design and other less thought of factors which actually make a huge difference.

Why are you letting the Jews have your child to fill their mind with lies and perversions 8 hours a day? What kind of people do you expect them to become that being the case?

I bet you let them watch a talmudvision and add a couple hours more to that time even. Why don't you read the Bible to them instead, or the Odyssey?

Your children should only be using GNU/Linux (or another free OS) and only free distributions.

Might I recommend Trisquel?

Your logic isn't supported by Apple's behavior.

If it were true that Apple in fact does produce a product with a vastly superior quality, they wouldn't have the disastrous PR that they do because so many of their products have catastrophic failures, and for their volume of sales which is for example, lower than Dell, you don't hear about Dell laptops exploding their batteries in the same way you hear about Macs.

Any and all products you have in your home and on your body are made to be sold at volume with the same regard for quality that is put on Apple products, they are no better or no worse than some other brands. What you do have is some brands that are catastrophic about product design in order to achieve maximum aesthetic with little cost, like HP consumer laptops are massive pieces of shit, but their business line is probably better than your average Mac. So it all depends on what it costs, but higher margins doesn't translate into quality.

A toyota camry will outlast a Bucatti Veyron, we just don't know for a fact because no one is going to put 400k miles on a bucatti, but we know camrys can do 400k miles.

>t. wintard

So you got no arguments bud?

I couldn't resist, I wanted to imitate that annoying autist that replies in every Mac thread. I'm typing a response now though...

Go be a technology illiterate mactoddler elsewhere

oh ok

Get her a little macbook air, and you could possibly save some money getting something like a 2012-2013 model

Go be a technology illiterate mactoddler elsewhere

y u mad tho mactoddler?

I say just 1 sentence, and now this guy is copying me and posting it everywhere. You really are an AI bot aren't you?

Buy her a Dell and hackintosh it. Close enough. You'll save $700. Dell laptops are also aluminum and have decent battery life. If she complains like an ungrateful little ass, slap an Apple sticker over the Dell logo and tell her to get over it. That's what I did for my son two years ago. After he fucked the bootloader trying to dual boot Ubuntu, I taught him how to fix it. Your child will learn more about technology if you don't just throw money at them for computers.

Most of Apple's "disastrous" PR scandals are massively overblown just because of high profile of a company they are and because how high of an expectation society has for their products. Apple also has a lot of haters who will echo anything bad about Apple.
I can't think of a single castastrophic failure from Apple after the year 2000. Can you name any? Bendgate was blown massively out of proportion and the headphone jack/port controversies were design decisions, not failures.
Dell sells more volume because they have more product lines, low-end, mid-end and high-end. This means a lot of trash, jack of all trades master of none. This is true for most PC manufacturers. I doubt business grade HP and Dell laptops are comparable to Apple laptops, they probably don't have the trackpad, OS optimization, NVMe SSD and battery life.

>t. annoying apsie autismo

>implying bendgate and touch disease were not design decisions
Topkek. Push that iDildo deeper into your asshole while Apple spoon feeds you more dongles.

I think a 2 in 1 would be very useful for her, or most people.

At that price range you could even afford a Surface Book, Spectre, Yoga.

But do not spoil her.

>tfw you trigger the anti-apple autist so he replies to you 4 times

>t. mactoddler

Get her a t420/x220 thinkpad and tell her if she wants a mac she can work her way towards it while giving her mini tech lessons so she eventually realises that the mac is a piece of shit

>everyone who doesn't eat my bullshit apple marketing is the same person
>t. mactoddler

I literally just got here. Also, I'm not that guy.

>replying 2 times

Women aren't interested in tech. The only reason they attend school is for cock in quantity and variety that dwarfs every COHF video ever made.

Buy the little twat an Apple notebook and avoid suffering.

Buy an Asus transformerbook and save your money.

Or even better give them a chinkpad to teach the spoiled little brat a lesson. If they really want a Mac, make them work for it.

>t. mactoddler

>Most of Apple's "disastrous" PR scandals are massively overblown just because of high profile of a company they are and because how high of an expectation society has for their products. Apple also has a lot of haters who will echo anything bad about Apple.
I don't dissagree with that, but again, in computer units alone, Apple has a vastly oversized bad PR and possibly more problems per volume when you compare it to other manufacturers.

>I can't think of a single castastrophic failure from Apple after the year 2000.

Are you freaking serious? Since 2000? Apple started the current trend of irreplaceable batteries, they were even sued for it.

There are, even without media involved, too many to mention instances of GPU failure on Macs rendering the computer into a paperweight, instances of batteries expanding or exploding. Instances of laptops burning people's skin where they're so freaking hot because "muh aesthetics" vs ventilation, you know, one of those things that quality products have.

>Dell sells more volume because they have more product lines, low-end, mid-end and high-end.

That is totally true, I picked dell because their consumer line isn't shit when compared to others. As far as the "This means a lot of trash, jack of all trades master of none." you can say the exact same thing for Apple.

> I doubt business grade HP and Dell laptops are comparable to Apple laptops, they probably don't have the trackpad, OS optimization, NVMe SSD and battery life.

You say that because you don't know what you're missing, if you have some money to spare buy a chinkpad on ebay, buy something cheap like a x220 or x230 you can get one for less than $200. Old Elitebooks and Latitudes are just as cheap, try em and see what you're missing. I am positive you will be amazed by the build quality alone.

>t. mactoddler

>t. mactoddler

>t. mactoddler

This. Learn your daughter not to spend money in useless thing maybe.

>mfw i use thinkpad at work.

>Women aren't interested in tech.
Basement dweller confirmed.

>Buy the little twat an Apple notebook and avoid suffering.
It's my job as a father to teach my son important life skills. If my kid goes off to college and can't figure out how to solve basic problems with Google, I will have failed as a parent. You seem to be a prime example of this. Post again to further prove my point.

jesus

just get a macbook. it has battery life and it won't shit the bed for no good reason

your daughter probably won't be folding proteins so I doubt she needs performance

Just buy her an average laptop so other kids don't think her family is ruined and she don't suffer of that (kids can be really stupid). It will also teach her that she need to work to get her mac or whatever she wants :)

>It's my job as a father to teach my son important life skills
Then why the fuck are you on Sup Forums asking us how to do your fucking job?

Buy her a good used laptop for $150 or less, buy brand new 9 cell battery for it, repaste, reinstall OS and you're done.

If the young woman concerned WAS interested she'd be specifying WHY she needs a particular computer and giving specific examples. Anyone entering high school should already be highly computer literate.

>It's my job as a father to teach my son important life skills.
>son

Like adapting to gender changes within the space of a single Sup Forums thread?

Kids, especially the kind with cunts, just want to fit in. Learn your own life lesson about not being an autismal parent who inflicts unwanted fashion (that's all a PC is to a woman) on malleable youth. It's cruel to inflict "grandpa" tech on babies.

Tell them you refuse to force your children to run software that does not respect their freedoms.

Why the fuck is there a weight limit?

Why the fuck is there a weight limit? What difference does it make to the school if I want to lug around some 12 pound monstrosity?

>any tips on how to convince the daughter she's better off without an Apple product even though all her friends will probably have one?

Just tell her that Apple is poor with security and the Jennifer Lawrence nude leaks are the result of this.

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ITT mactoddlers literally admitting that their fruity toddler toys belong on /fa/

I wouldn't spend $1200 on a BYOD school device.

It will break, likely through a damaged screen, liquid, or a drop.

She needs something robust. Besides, $1,200 for a school computer is over the top when $2-400 will do the job.

Put Solus, the best GNU/Linux distribution, on a thinkpad and send her to school.

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They have a trip sensor inside, any moisture over a certain % will require a MoBo replacement or bypass.

They should admit it but I'm not one of them. I don't own or have interest in a Mac, but the question was what fashion accessory to buy for a young women who is naturally vulnerable and wants acceptance.

I'm an old guy who prefers plentiful Thinkpads because I can scatter them around my home and shops and guest house for total convenience. For speed I have desktops because notebooks a shit for performance-per-dollar.

No one at school can help her use Linux, and for the .edu world either OS X or Windows are required. Inflicting Linux on non-volunteers is retarded and Windows is free.

I use Linux but I'm not some teenage chick. Inflicting shit on people they don't want doesn't help Linux evangelism.

Thinkpad x220
Make that little bitch install gentoo and prove her worth in this world. Oh too hard for princess? Maybe she should stay in the kitchen where she belongs.

this desu senpai

>not teaching your daughter to install gentoo at an early age
>allowing her to ever consider apple trash

You're a bad father and you should feel bad.

Teach her how to use a VM.

Get her a Xiaomi Air, install the most MacOS-like *nix. She'll probably never know.