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I've been dual-booting Ubuntu GNOME and Manjaro GNOME on my test laptop for a couple weeks, trying to decide which I want to use as my first main Linux distro on my main laptop. I've fallen madly in love with pacman and the AUR, though I've been told that I shouldn't go with an Arch-based distro as my first. What do you think? So far, both distros have been working fine - though sometimes Ubuntu GNOME gives me a "system program problem detected" message on boot which... I THINK has something to do with my graphics drivers. Though I've never noticed anything acting out of the ordinary. Also, I'd try Fedora 25, but it doesn't have proprietary NVIDIA drivers, and the free drivers for my main laptop's graphics card don't work well.
Brayden Garcia
>I've fallen madly in love with pacman and the AUR >AUR >no security audits >the repo equivalent of an Iraqi bazaar >fallen in love
Arch is a hobbyist distro. Basically anything other than Debian, Ubuntu or Red Hat are hobbyist distros not meant for serious use.
Jaxson Wood
Ubuntu's equivalent of AUR are the PPA's. Fedora's equivalent of AUR are the COPR.
The important difference being both PPA and COPR build the packages for you and you don't have to compile them.
Fedora doesn't have any proprietary software save for binary kernel blobs because they're owned by redhat, which is US based company and they have to respect retarded american patent system. There's a 3rd party repository for Nvidia drivers for Fedora.
Go for *buntu.
Angel Peterson
>Go for *buntu. I've also heard that Ubuntu is unstable with pretty much any DE except Unity. Thoughts on this?
Jeremiah Carter
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Jayden Smith
Does anybody here have experience with using Ubuntu with a Lenovo Flex 4, or a simimlar '2 in 1 laptop/tablet'? Can you point me in the direction needed to get Ubuntu to recognize when im in 'Tablet Mode'? When i was using win10, it would go into tablet mode when the screen flipped passed a certain angle, like 180 degress or something and it would disable the keyboard and trackpad so the key wouldnt get pressed while it sits on your lap or table. I spent a few hours googling last night with no success. Any advice at all would be appreciated. Ill probably end up having to ask on an IRC or something, im really hoping this wont be too much of a hassle.
There's a reason why windows is installed in the first place.
Jonathan Perez
Ill probably go back to it if i cant figure this out, i really wanted to give Ubuntu a shot with what i have though.
Matthew Bailey
user, i want to learn perl for scripting and math, but my friends recently said it is shit so i lost all of my motivation. Please say something good about this weird camel language. Thank you.
Ryan Jackson
I run xfce and its perfectly stable (16.04)
William Lee
Nope. Ubuntus desktop manager Unity is stable. It just looks shit.
Kayden Fisher
you friends are the problem. backup you memories then switch to new friends. i'd recommend hipsters.
>copy file with rsync or with scp >the SOURCE file's hash changes
Honestly, I don't know what to do any more. HOW can the SOURCE file change after making a copy of it somewhere? As far as I know, its hash (sha1) shouldn't be affected by metadata, right? So how does it change?!
James Wood
just do it you fucking loser it's easy
Jayden Bailey
what is the best linux?
Justin Garcia
4.8
Jeremiah Cox
thanks
Lincoln Hughes
linux-libre
Logan Ortiz
linux mint
Daniel Richardson
why is a source file more special that anything else? you know it's just a file with a special extension that has text in it right?
Joseph Brooks
No, I meant source as in the file that's being copied. Basically.
>rsync /dir/file /newdir/file >check the hash of /dir/file >it's now different
I'd expect the new hash to be maybe changed due to corruption (hardware I assume?), but not the file which was being copied.
Jackson Reyes
How do you manage software you installed from source (with the "make" command)? Like keep them updated, resinstall or uninstall?
Nicholas James
You package it for your package manager. You don't just do "sudo make install".
Noah Robinson
use your package manager
Elijah Carter
better use your package manager, just use gentoo if you compile from source a lot. if it isn't in your repos then just check in once in a while to see if there are any updates on github
Christian Diaz
Ok, my mom is a teacher and slightly tech literate, but the other teachers keep messing up her work PC with their malware ridden USB sticks.
So I want to install GNU/Linux on her work PC.
There's one requirement, though. I need to get Microsoft Office 2003 to work in it without hassle. Is it possible?
Also, Xubuntu or Mint?
Elijah Reyes
Why install GNU if you don't want malware? Just use plain Linux with GNU removed.
Carter King
Ubuntu Mate retard
Caleb Scott
Never Mint. Use Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE. Giving WINE a shot is the best chance you'll have, but do remember Libreoffice is compatibile fully with MS office.
Matthew Fisher
Thanks lads.
I have Xubuntu on dual boot and honestly not very impressed with it. The default audio player keeps crashing. I think I'll try Ubuntu MATE.
Grayson Murphy
anyone running arch and using qt creator?
need help with the debugging,
I cannot make the damn assembly go away, even when pressing the button who is supposed to do that
Hunter Nelson
> but do remember Libreoffice is compatibile fully with MS office. Are you sure about that?
Samuel Foster
I'm just curious why people hate on ubuntu and call it bloated?
I'm running 16.04 on an old thinkpad with a 120gb ssd and 8gb ram and all I did was install unity tweak, ncmpcpp, vlc, and a few other things. Tweaked the appearance and launcher and disabled the amazon botnet
I've never experienced lag or issues at all. It's the most seamless and lightest feeling os I've ever used so I don't understand why people call it bloated? systemd-analyze has it as 16second boot time
Carson Ross
Yes. You can choose to save as MS Office formats, and open MS Office formats in Libreoffice. Save it in 1, it'll work in the other.
Owen Long
Yeah, but can it open office 2003 .xdoc files and shit?
Luke Cooper
Shouldn't it be like this if you don't have anything else installed? Here's mine. I enabled the clang use flags though so I don't know about achieving that on arch.
Nathaniel Perez
When I go into Libreoffice writer, and choose 'open file', MS Word 97,2000,XP,2003,2007,2010 and 2013 are in the list of compatible filetypes.
Oliver Bailey
ok den
Kevin Sullivan
I have gdb installed and have build the project with the debug configuration.
If you press the button I have marked with red on my screenshot here, the "instruction-wise-debugging"-mode will be toggled and the assembly for each line will be shown.
If you press the button again, the assembly will be hidden again.
This works in my VM with ubuntu and on another laptop of my friend
Kayden Thomas
It doesn't do that in my version, it's the latest one so maybe they changed something.
also, do you need an IDE for Qt or just for C++? If it's just for C++ then using a simple makefile for compiling would be a lot easier than fucking around with an IDE. I don't think Qtcreator is that good for plain C++.
Owen Allen
leave the source directory there and go back and sudo make uninstall and then delete it, and download the new source and reinstall. For slackware this is the best option for new software that isn't on slackbuilds.org, like the newest version of icecat.
Asher Ortiz
>It doesn't do that in my version that means you can toggle the assembly?
>it's the latest one so maybe they changed something i got 4.1.0 from the AUR
>also, do you need an IDE for Qt or just for C++? I want to get it working and a bit annoyed how its working on everything but my laptop
Zachary Price
Yeah, it first thought it didn't. Now that I've cycled through line by line using the buttons to the left it hides the assembly.
Brody Ross
>buttons to the left which buttons you mean?
Jayden Ross
Step in, step out, step over
Dominic Lewis
Maybe you could try an older version. Not sure if you can do that on arch though.
Luis Garcia
well the dev version (4.2.0) doesnt work, i found that out after 2 hours of compiling
thanks for the suggestion, ill try getting an older one
also, i am currently installing arch in a vm (on arch lol) to find out if its working there
Michael Edwards
make a chroot and do it in there?
Gabriel Harris
lmao just install gentoo in a vm, it works there for sure on 4.1.0 or just try compiling 4.1.0. Don't forget to do something like make -j5 or whatever number of cores you have. It might take a long time to do just in a single thread.
Jeremiah Stewart
dont have any experience with that, how would it work?
Hudson Ward
a chroot is similar to a VM but runs natively. just make a new chroot environment & install the package and test it as needed. look up guides for making a chroot if you need to.
Ayden Murphy
thanks for the info, will try that
Jaxon Cooper
What command do I enter to get my Pi out of emergency mode? I've checked a few dozen threads on google and I can't seem to get a simple answer.
Elijah Wright
>google BOTNET
Gabriel Reyes
Just started a 2gb download, 5gb installed, -0,2gb net "pacman -Syu" How fucked am I? I'm going to be reinstalling soon anyway
Jaxson Cox
i'll be praying to saint ignucius for you user
Matthew Sanders
FUCKING SORRY I'LL SWITCH I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO BOOT THIS FUCKING THING
Anthony Russell
There's a reason for that 1% market share.
Carson Perez
arch doesnt have 1% market share
William Miller
I think I'm good, all I care about is my data and that's going to survive in any case. Why doesn't someone make a Debian/Devuan/Ubuntu repo with all packages statically linked? It would be fucking perfect.
Liam Brooks
feel free to come over to Debian Sid
Michael Jenkins
Probably going for xubuntu tbqh. Rolling release is overrated, I run Devuan Jessie on my laptop and it's fucking flawless, but >muh games are better on ubuntu
You have the choice to select all updates in Linux Mint 18, and you would be getting the same experience as you would in Ubuntu. Even when you first start up Mint they ask you for what kind of update policy you want.
Aiden Bennett
@57852237 not everyone is an 1337 command line hacker, some people have a job and want to get shit done, stick to your arch but stop spreading FUD about mint
Caleb Lee
>You have the choice to select all updates in Linux Mint 18, and you would be getting the same experience as you would in Ubuntu. But user, it says here it's UNSAFE and DANGEROUS. Ubuntu doesn't say that.
Isaiah Phillips
Try installing the package mdm (Utilities for single-host parallel shell scripting) on Mint. Ubuntu can, Mint can't, because on Mint the package is Mints Display Manager. Why do they highjack package names like that? Mint is literally broken.
Alexander Brooks
if it works just like ubuntu, why not install ubuntu? it's literally the same shit without those security issues.
Ryan Davis
I'm on mint 18 I'm trying to mount a floppy disk image. In my current directory I created a floppy image with mkfs.msdos -C floppy.img 1440 I made a catalog by mkdir floppy I mounted it using sudo mount -o loop floppy.img floppy But now I can't put anything there, because only root owns it and can do anything. What did I do wrong? having to sudo every copy command works, but surely there must be a better way
Angel Adams
>I'm on mint 18 stopped reading there
Jack Morgan
You should continue.
Mason Butler
give your user permission to read/write it
Eli Perry
>the only difference between Ubuntu and Mint is how updates are handled Okay user Yea, sadly no distro is perfect
Alexander Wood
>Yea, sadly no distro is perfect Except one.
Jack Carter
that's not debian user
Bentley Reyes
When I'm at work and I'm logged in via putty to my server, within a certain amount of time, the firewall kicks me off because it thinks the connection is dead.
Is there anyway I can set it up so that it sends some information over to me every now and then?
Right now, I just have #~/bin/dontlogmeoutfuckers.sh #!/bin/bash
while [ 1 ] do sleep 120 echo '123' done
But I don't want it outputted on the screen as I have stuff to do. Any suggestions?
Austin Sanders
Slackware is surprisingly nice.
Nathan Rodriguez
@57852523 yes cause debian isnt perfect by any stretch of the imagination so i didnt post it
Jonathan Ward
>debian isnt perfect by any stretch of the imagination Take that back.
