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>How does it work?
>Self driving cars.
Oh ok.

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The botnet is becoming physical now?

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Self driving trucks + short range drones are going to make a lot of people unemployed.

>Robots
>Self driving trucks

kys

t.trucker

Your union will help for a little bit but expect to be homeless pretty soon chief.

sorry you fat fuck, but your low skill work is indeed the next to go.

Union won't help at all.
Strikes only work as a threat if you're not striking against your replacement.

Truckers are essential, but the skill of driving a big truck can now be automated. Your job is going to be gone in less than a decade.

The question is: will the robots actually try to deliver or just leave a tag?

>Unions

Ahahahahaha

6'4 160lbs. Suck my dick you pompous 4wheeler

Prove to me my job will be gone. All you guys just think "Oh drive on road, and it can backup to a dock to unload everything."

Guys know nothing other than what that Otto video shows you. And guess what? There's still a dude in the truck because no truck can backup to a dock. None of you have any idea what warehouses and stores are like to deliver to. Not one store is the same. Not every location has a football field size area to deliver to. Come back when you have proof that trucks will be able to do everything a trucker can do. As far as I can tell, Cross Country jobs will be lost.

Enjoy the moving to Alaska to do dangerous trucking AI can't handle.

How the fuck are you supposed to use it if you down have a smart phone? Yes we people still exist you know.

you don't, this is for those that embrace the botnet

Yeah, it would honestly be more convenient with just some card.

I don't see how this could work

>taking the bait
Remember how Amazon delivered stuff with drones? Oh wait, it was just a marketing meme to get extra publicity -- and this is the very same, right in time for the holidays. Neither will ever actually happen.

Yeah I'm just kinda a loser that still uses a flip phone. Money/priorities etc. Though you do bring up a good point.
The self checkout things at the grocery store aren't bad for this sort of thing, quick small load grabbing why can't that be an option too?

>>DDOS store
>>grab everything in sight
>>walk out
>>don't get charged for any of that shit
>>??????
>>PROFIT!!!!

Pretty sure they still have cameras and staff to stop people in case shit goes wrong

can purchase weird shit without being looked down on by the stupid cashier, this is the future.

lol I'd love to see them sell alcohol

that defeats the point

>steal someones phone
>go to amazon go store
>???
>Profit

but the botnet will know

I'm wondering how they would prevent theft, you basically WILL require a smart phone with an active app and account setup to automatically bill you... but how do you tell who is legit unless you get security to check everyone?

No it doesn't since the point is making the checkout process automated. Doesn't mean they can't have security.

The problems with drone deliver include, but are not limited to:
-issues with theft prevention
-potential for drone damaging property and/or killing people if engine fails
-birds of prey attacking drones
-air space regulation
-signal interference causing drones to deliver incorrectly
-inadequate landing zones
-drone unable to place package such that it is protected from wind/rain/snow/etc.


This shopping system is a straight improvement to a store that not only streamlines the customer experience, but eliminates the need for most of the service employees in a store. Grocery stores in my city already have self-serve checkouts; this is just the next step. Whether or not it gets widely implemented depends on how much the system costs, which will drop extremely quickly with computer hardware companies falling over themselves to create dedicated machine learning hardware right now.

Dindus Loot/10

There's gotta be some kind of password to checkout

probably a password to start the shopping session, just like software like apple pay does

>steal someone's wallet
>go to any store
>???
>Profit

This isn't a technical paper, i'm not sure what all you autists think they should have said besides comparing to self driving car tech, on the surface level that's exactly what it is and it's the easiest way to explain it to a laymen.

>prepaid card has $10
>walk out with $200 merchandise

>i'm sorry but amazon Go is a service only available to amazon prime members with a bank account or credit card linked to their account and a verified address.

It goes like this

>"Ah fuck there are no lines on this dirt road"
>"Ah shit, the GPS lagged"
>"Oh crap the sensor wasnt sharp enough to pick that asshole's car with the lights turned off during the night"
>Government: "shit! those coordinating transmitors are fucking expensive to place on the roads every X meters and the bums will surely vandalize them."

And so you walk home

>coordinating transmitors
>he doesn't understand how the GPS system actually functions

go back to school, not to mention billions of dollars are currently being invested in infrastructure and legislation of self driving cars.

It requires a smartphone to use it.

Otherwise, you cant enter/use features.

This kills the cashiers

When this goes live in Seattle I expect somebody to steal thousands of Amazon prime accounts, and hordes of crackheads to be hired as shoplifting crews to clean out this store for $0.10 per $1 retail and shit sold on the black market or to corner stores for 1/2 price.

They caught an old Chinese woman here with 3 million worth of retail she was buying/selling from crackheads jacking stores. Those stores all have security and employees watching cameras kek, good luck Amazon Go

Really activates my braincells

I've never seen someone so scared of losing his job over text

Except the store exists in seattle right now and ive been there

>Not one store is the same. Not every location has a football field size area to deliver to. Come back when you have proof that trucks will be able to do everything a trucker can do.
kek keep dreaming, with LIDAR, RADAR, SONAR, and other sensors, it will have no problem doing cartwheels while drag racing backwards down a mountain.

They are using facial recognition, so they'll know.

I find self driving cars cool but my pops is a truck driver and I don't want him to lose his job ._.

Which to be honest just eliminates a whole huge chunk of the potential market. Businesses want more customers not less..

literally millions of people will lose their jobs in the coming decades. It will take a radical movement of change for our political system to catch up with whats happening in automation.

It will happen across the entire driving industry, couriers, delivery drivers, truckers, taxis, etc.

Why pay 100 truck drivers a $50k+ salary + benefits and they can only legally work a certain number of hours in a row. When you can just buy 70 self driving trucks for $500,000 a pop and 4 mechanics at $120,000 a year and make the same number of delivery's, if not more because self driving trucks never sleep.

Well he's already 54, the mortgage is paid off and he's about to retire in less than 10 years. So I just hope for the best.

It's called Communism and companies don't want that

Post scarcity social-capitalism

>implying we will ever reach post scarcity
maybe once we figure out how to live forever and stop the end of the universe

>ITT: Reddit-tier space communism utopias

I still wait for the day my car can correctly understand the voice control GPS destination without 4 tries.

Yeah I know, but that's the ultimate end "goal"

Are YOU retarded or are you simply talking like a retard?

I use voice commands for half the shit I use my phone for when i'm in the car and I almost never have to repeat stuff anymore, it's nowhere near where it was even 2 years ago.

The only reason I use Amazon is so I don't have to leave my house. Now if I do ever leave I never have to socialize to anyone even when buying groceries. This is a win-win situation.

>Now if I do ever leave I never have to socialize to anyone even when buying groceries
we already have Amazon fresh delivery where I live, I already have no reason to leave the house

If he's any good at his job he won't be replaced by the time he retires. I would say there's a good 20+ years before the self-driving stuff really takes off

>wanting other people to see you autistic-ally talking to a machine

So a load of 200% markup prepackaged bullshit
no thanks

I wonder if they've tested this with pickpockets

Now if the delivery guy were a robot.
But the last guy (not amazon) looked at me funny for ordering groceries online.
Never again.

Also you do get the shitty soon expiring stuff they can't get rid of in the actual market. The milk I bought expired one day after delivery. And I bought 5 liters of it.

I work at a grocery store, I can tell you that cashiers use up the most hours by department.

We are talking thousands of hours per week for a medium sized store.

Amazon is literally the only company on earth I trust and as soon at this happens sign me up.

But I never shop in stores like this since online delivery is much easier.

JWOT is the fucking future. Amazon is the fucking future. I love this company so fucking much.

Kindles Amazing.
Amazon Prime & Prime Video Amazing.
Amazon Echo - needs work but soon to be amazing.
Amazon Fire Phone - a failure but a novel experiment.
Amazon Go will change the fucking planet.
Washington Post - Only honest news outlet in the game dedicated to getting real stories.
AWS - Literally as close to perfection a service can be.

Best company on the fucking planet, Dread Pirate Bezos is a personal hero of mine.

Amazon wants more conscious customers, not dull customers. Just like how Apple stores eliminates the low income market, Amazon is fine with eliminating the low-tech market and attracting more high-tech consumers.

smart =/= rich

Yes but poor = dumb

Thats given, however correlations are there.

Lower income = less education/intelligence/food quality/etc

Higher income = more educated/etc

>a site that openly hates on Reddit
>same exact snotty response to anything that happens in the world
if you guys are against Amazon Go simply because of how big the company is and therefor accuse it of being a botnet or w/e, then you are the pretentious fuck this world could go without.

All I'm saying is, if someone's buying overpriced groceries for a little extra convenience, you can't say great things about their IQ.

Time = money

If you're poor and time isn't worth much, then you forsake convenience for low cost products. If your rich and your time is worth 100x more than the poors, then the convenience factor works out for them.

There's also the prestige factor that rich want, they may be smart about money but they're still humans and want to associate themselves with a high quality brand.

>hol' up
>so (*smack) you be sayin...
>you be sayin dere a store you can jus walk in, take whaever and jus walk out?
>sheeeeiiiittttt no one even stop me
>lemme jus make a call

>Also you do get the shitty soon expiring stuff they can't get rid of in the actual market. The milk I bought expired one day after delivery. And I bought 5 liters of it.

Firstly, that's easily something you could complain about and get a refund for. Secondly who the fuck buys 5 litres of milk? And third, since amazon isn't an actual grocery store, all of their shit is fresh. They buy what they need and because all of their stuff is already done through computers, they just do basic data analysis on customer buying patterns to make sure they have proper stock of everything.

In a properly managed system old stock simply doesn't exist.

Food is a substantial amount of a family's budget, who also happen to be the largest consumers of food. They ain't paying for that shit unless it's competitively priced.
I can see it working for 20-somethings who work 60 hours a week, but it won't grow to any scale in its current form.

why the fuck do you mouthbreathers think that a store without checkouts will be devoid of all security? the two aren't related at all. and even if there's not a single human being on the property, the system will be able to track your face, know that it was you who came in yesterday and took shit without paying, notify the police, provide them with a photo of you, etc. you could steal shit only a few times before you'd get arrested with a shitload of video evidence neatly filed away for your prosecution.

stop being fucking retarded

I like milk and hate shopping, so I'll buy for a 1-2 weeks in advance.

>70 self driving trucks
>$500,000

Kek, you'd struggle to get 20 old good condition manual trucks for that

Its a prototype right now, however they can still negotiate prices like regular grocer. However they might be going for fully automated (no cashier employees) grocery shopping experience, in which case, the reduction in the cost of the products would be passed down to the consumers.

Amazon is mainly going for disruptive technology. The millennial generations don't want to deal with people as much as people of the past. So this would attract millennials and henceforth.

You're retarded, it was an example not a literal line item I was legit going to order. The prices are all made up.

It doesn't honestly matter what the truck costs unless it's a $10M+ truck (it isn't) it will be worth it in the long run.

No one thinks self driving cars and trucks will save money in the first few years, this is about 5-10 years out when you start seeing return on investment, and by that point in time the manufacturing process has cheapened as well so replacing the fleet is half the cost of the initial investment.

From that point on it's all gravy.

500000 a pop you idiot read it before you try to defend your shitty unskilled labour.

Those reductions in costs are not something that Amazon will want to give up, if they even exist. It seems like every time someone puts something like this together, it's priced so goddamn high thanks to the tech still being expensive af. This has a high probability of having that problem.
It could happen, but not like this.

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Personally, I'm skeptical that autonomous vehicles will ever become standard. More commonplace, certainly, but not the norm.

Driving is an act of applying pattern matching and general heuristics to quickly comprehend the world around your vehicle and move it accordingly. The human brain is very, very, very good at applying pattern matching to its visual input and quickly comprehending the world. It also expertly understands the intention and motivation of other drivers and pedestrians.

Computers, short of scifi level AI that can simulate the human brain, are absolute shit at this. All it can do is try to build a 3D map of its surroundings (usually needing some variant of RADAR since computer vision seems to be an incredibly hard problem) and apply collision avoidance.

That is not the same thing as a human driver, who truly understands/comprehends the road with only a quick glance from their delicate organic eyes. Even monocular drivers seem to do just fine because we don't even require stereoscopy to perform half-decent depth perception.

On a freeway with strong road markings, the tech does well and I fully expect an advanced version of cruise control to become standard.

But I live in a small village. To get to the main road I have to drive down a narrow single lane with several blind turns, no markings and overhanging foliage, pass an awkward four way intersection with crappy visibility, and cross a crumbling bridge even narrower than the lane. A computer would shit bricks here, yet there are never any crashes and nobody thinks much of it.

Even if I lived in a large city, I would still want to drive places like this to visit people, and delivery vehicles still need to get here.

Worked in a warehouse for a while. We do make fun of you and if you work in fulfillment you can see the name and everything.

not even trolling, the mark of the beast will be something of this nature

this might be a gimmick now, but imagine how things will be when this is the standard, and cash is no longer accepted

Initial cost would be high to consumers if a company can't absorb the high cost. For Amazon, who'se whole business have been shifting down the cost and passing the savings to consumers and operating at a loss for a long time, I think they can do the cost-cutting method and passing the savings to consumers pretty fine.

that dragon dildo was for my moth-- i mean girlfriend

That would be a feat. If it doesn't catch on in the beginning it'll be because of the prices.
Judging by the ad, it's all prepackaged shit, which is notoriously expensive anyway, so there's little hope for it right off the bat.

>tfw your car can drive you to work by itself but you still have to pick up your paycheck and bring it to the bank because wiring money into checking accounts is too hard for some reason

>implying CV is reliable
>implying and computer based security is reliable at all

OK. You've clearly proven you can't into Sup Forums, and also have lived in an area without nigs.

Was he right lads?

>can't into Sup Forums

you're telling me that a system designed to track every shopper in a store, what products each shopper has touched, and whether or not the shopper is carrying those items when they exit WON'T be able to track users just because they didn't log in at the front gate?

and it's ME that can't into Sup Forums? lol yeah ok, kid

I wonder how long it's going to take you mongoloids to understand what machine learning is capable of

That is, if the current state of aotumobiles stay the same
What I think will eventually happen is that all cars will start being suit with some sort of tracker, be it gps, radio, some sort of longer range nfc, whatever tech is the best at that time
Eventually cars without this tracker will be ruled out
Once all cars in the road have this tracker, autonomous cars will only need to have maps with the roads in their memory, and will automatically regulate traffic by keeping track of all the other cars in the road (thanks to the said trackers)
If there is an accident, all cars approaching the accidents one will see an anomaly in that car and stop traffic safely
Autonomous cars will still have to be equipped with sensors to detect animals, humans and possible debris that accidentally lands on the road
These are just my thougjts, but they sound the most plausible of all I've heard really

Falling this hard for the bait

Smh Sup Forums

> All it can do is try to build a 3D map of its surroundings (usually needing some variant of RADAR since computer vision seems to be an incredibly hard problem)

They're making massive breakthroughs in this sector.
spar3d.com/news/lidar/mits-10-lidar-chip-will-change-3d-scanning-know/
A LIDAR on a chip, that's cheap as hell and 1000x faster than the mechanical counterparts.
Stuff like this will bring machine vision to a whole new level in the very near future.

>Personally, I'm skeptical that autonomous vehicles will ever become standard. More commonplace, certainly, but not the norm.
Ever is a long time, self driving cars will without a doubt become the norm and I bet it's going to be 20 years max until our roads are absolutely filled with them.

>20 years max
they had radar assisted cruise control 20 years ago and still only the upper end of cars have these now. the tiny tiny advancements in self driving have taken decades to get where they are - and they really havent gone far to normalizing the technology yet. there is no way anything remotely like self driving cars will be around in 20 years.

>How does it work?
>[[Insert techno babble here]]

so instead of debating the merits of the store how about how it fucking works

given that the only customer interaction is at a turnstyle and lack of direct identification of products(no scanning shit) I would bet against any sort of radio ID
and due to their "lol its liek smart cars guys" marketing I bet they use camera tracking to ID each person
scan your phone at the turnstyle and an overhead camera network picks you out and tracks you though the store
cameras or weight sensors in the shelves track products

it's not like there are 10000 cameras with face recognition and all your data from the smartphone.
You can do shit in one store, the next time the door will not open since you are not a welcomed guest and the AI will recognize you.

It's a computer with four wheels.

it's not like the store have facial recognition and a door the AI have to open or you stay outside....

Shoplifting more than 1 time (if even possible) is impossible.

how many people still don't use a smartphone?
I mean beside 65+ years old I think there is 100% market penetration.