Site is currently down but do you think Kickass 2.0 is a honeypot?

Site is currently down but do you think Kickass 2.0 is a honeypot?

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why would it be a honeypot? if a copyright enforcer wants to take you to court, they need proof that you transferred the copyrighted data. just downloading (or even uploading) the torrent isn't enough.

i feel like the pirate community is the most preposterously misinformed community of people on the internet. left to their own devices i think they would do more damage to themselves than my mom would.

all public trackers are honeypots

>public trackers
kys

Private don't have any value for non autist users.

private trackers tend to have better signal to noise ratio, and the high quality stuff often hits private trackers first (that is, it always hits public trackers, just later).

the thing that irks me about private tracker elitists is the misconception i've seen where people think that private trackers are safe from copyright enforcement. like the trivial effort they had to go through to get into what.cd or whatever is enough to stop someone from the RIAA doing the same.

private trackers aren't some sort of safe enclave. if they're selling you on that, you're being fleeced.

Most copyright enforcers will send you a demand for payment even if you didn't download or upload any of the file. Just having your IP in the tracker is enough.

source: there was a study on this

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I've never heard of someone getting a copyright notice when they pirated properly on a private tracker.

yeah, but there's no need to run the tracker to do that. kickass, what.cd, etc... don't have to be participants in any way for copyright enforcers to go down this route.

in fact, it would just be a huge burden for no good reason (and frankly it might muddy their position if they do have to take someone to court, if they were secretly operating a massive piracy ring; for one thing, a LOT of content that's not theirs would be in the mix, so they would at least have to answer to other copyright holders about why they quietly propped up a piracy site).

>and the high quality stuff often hits private trackers first
It's where the encoding teams are, the source of the actual movie encode, look at HDB.

>pirated properly
what does this even mean? proxy? seedbox? these are all precautions that would be sufficient for a public tracker as well.

and the point is that there's fundamentally nothing preventing a copyright enforcer from doing this, and the false sense of security people like you take on because you think it's unprecedented and therefore never going to happen makes for exactly the kind of soft target they would want to squeeze.

>left to their own devices i think they would do more damage to themselves than my mom would.

Do your mom like to damage pirates?

i didn't think i needed to clarify that but i guess i overestimated you guys. i meant self-harm to either party.

Your mother likes to self harm? Is she some sort of self-harming expert? Why would you use her as a measuring stick of self harm?

>pirate properly
Disabling any method of getting peers outside the tracker such as DHT.

>nothing is preventing copyright holders from doing this
What I don't understand is why I never heard of this happening. Maybe they only go for easy targets. I don't know. I just want to see an example of someone who claimed this.

>Site is currently down but do you think Kickass 2.0 is a honeypot?

Your IP is plainly visible to everyone who connects to the tracker. All public trackers have always been a honeypot.

>I just want to see an example of someone who claimed this.

That someone is in this thread. I've gotten notices from the open registration tracker pornolab.

You act like you can't see IPs on private trackers or that the gubbment can't get an account in your sekrit klub

its why torrents suck ass

If the earth is flat, why can't you see europe or africa from florida?

Good point, but couldn't it be set up by a government group? Just like my government does with CP and the US government does with prostitution

The good thing is that

An IP != A person

But mate IP stands for Internet Person

atmospheric distortion

This is why chemtrails exist, to reduce visibility over long distances.

because of mountains and trees.
It is flat only to some extent not completely 2d lol u IDIOT

At that distance air blocks your view, similar to how fog/mist works on shorter distances.

Aw fuck

Yeah, that makes sense the water trees are fucking hell

How did you even fall for it?

Yes and there is water at top of the mountains and trees. It is why u have deep water at some places and others not.

I didn't imply all private trackers were safe, only that all public trackers are dangerous.

But it just doesn't happen on most private trackers for the sole reason that they normally keep registration closed.

Also the government doesn't send notices retard. It's private companies that producers hire to watch over torrents and they send copyright notices on their behalf.

(you)

Hope this was point of your shit post you degenerate.

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Sorry

I was a pretty active user of ilovetorrents.me back before it was even a .me. Does anyone know of a way for me to get back in? It's been like 6 years and i've forgotten all my info. Would really mean a lot to me.

Even if your IP is visible, if you take proper precautions like VPN you can download monitored torrents. Just make sure that your VPN provider isnt a complete cuck.

why americans are acting like they're the only country on the internet? there're millions of users of kat, from all across the world, i can't think of it being a honeypot just for u.s citizens, you guys are being paranoid

The thing about security in the real world is that there's no such thing as “hard” security. The only trick to staying secure in practice is the ability to stay under the radar.

It's the same reason all malware is developed for the most popular platforms only, and why law enforcement and patent trolls only go after the biggest torrent trackers. Effort vs reward for them

Private trackers are literally only safe because of their obscurity. Whenever private trackers get too big to the point where they're essentially public (e.g. what.cd), they go down, too. That's why smart trackers are the ones that make it difficult to get in. Doing that keeps the community small, which keeps them under the radar. There's no other benefit.

If your operation is big and bad enough, no amount of technology will possibly protect you. You can hide behind 7 proxies and use tor/freenet exclusively for all I care, you WILL get busted if you attract enough attention, because of opsec failures, side channel leaks, etc.

You sound like the dumbasses who said that before space travel

>Disabling any method of getting peers outside the tracker such as DHT.
there's no reason that a copyright enforcer couldn't get the torrent and information about the swarm in exactly the same way that you get it. for the purposes of strong-arming your ISP, that's plenty.

copyright enforcers are all but eager to put leverage on you, and the easiest ways to do that are all outside of a courtroom.

there would be no political will to do it for music sharing, but in principle it could be done. people feel much more strongly about the moral issues entangled in child pornography and (to a lesser extent) prostitution than they do about copyright violation.

i realize that i'm being a little hypocritical by saying it's unlikely to happen because of norms and whatnot, but political entities (and that includes law enforcement) tend to be more concerned with how they "look" than copyright enforcers, who are sort of a step or two removed from patent trolls and other trolls in general. i expect copyright enforcers to try every despicable trick in the book, including ones that are at least "probably illegal". i don't necessarily expect law enforcement agencies to go after broad swaths of people that way unless they're doing something really reprehensible (like making/sharing child porn).

the exception that sort of proves the rule is the aaron swartz case, where the government went after him so doggedly that he committed suicide. political backlash against heymann and garland was pretty severe for a little while, and i think it confirms that people don't feel comfortable with the state fighting too aggressively to convict people of crimes that we all kind of feel aren't as "real" as real crimes.

how is it possible that we can see the moon then???

Checkmate.

Why would the government give a solitary shit if you download some lady gaga song? It's the copyright holders who are the ones grabbing IPs from the swarm, sending DMCAs etc.

Cause the air gets less dense the higher you go. Also, you see the moon because sun's light is reflected off it.

>and i think it confirms that people don't feel comfortable with the state fighting too aggressively to convict people of crimes that we all kind of feel aren't as "real" as real crimes.
Honestly I think most people don't see these things as crimes in the slightest, it's just that the laws aren't made by the people - they're made by the rich lobbyists

If you listen such shity music your are probably the next mass murderer that is why they care.

>Also, you see the moon because sun's light is reflected off it.
Bullshit, if the moon reflected light you'd see your face when you look at it.

Thanks senpai

yeah but i think his point is fair enough — if i'm not reading too much into it, basically asking why we shouldn't expect law enforcement agencies to go after every crime. and in theory they could (and might, someday), but right now it's just not worth their time/effort.

i've filed a police report for my home being burglarized and the cops didn't really even bother to do any real evidence-gathering. between the insurance covering shit and the low likelihood of finding the suspect, it just didn't make sense for them to do much more than file a police report so i can reference it in my insurance claim.

>I only steal the finest music from artists that have no money
Good one, bud

>yeah but i think his point is fair enough — if i'm not reading too much into it, basically asking why we shouldn't expect law enforcement agencies to go after every crime. and in theory they could (and might, someday), but right now it's just not worth their time/effort.
Because even law enforcement knows they can't sanely enforce a law that basically everybody break even if they had the capability to do so. At beast, they'll go after the most extreme cases.

A country can't put its entire population into jails, after all. (Well, not that the U.S.A. isn't trying)

Entertainment is not real job,otherwise i should get paid for shitposting here all day long.

So sorry,not sorry.

the notion that copyright/patent law is entirely dictated by lobbyists is hyperbolic at best and nonsense at worst. it goes back to jefferson and the idea that a person should get to benefit from a creative idea that they have. the fact that disney and others have totally coopted copyright law is separate from the question of "yes or no, should people be able to get copyrights". if we had the copyright regime we had 200 years ago, i suspect there would be a lot less complaining about this stuff.

and i don't know whether people think of piracy as a crime or not, but i suspect they recognize it's a crime on the books but only in the same way that when you get to a section of the road that says "KEEP CLEAR" (obviously so that cross traffic can still get through when there's traffic), people sort of see it as a guideline rather than a directive. that is to say that they don't make the connection that if they violate it, bad things should happen to them. not as bad as if they kill a guy, but still something.

if the police had the manpower they absolutely would go after everyone, but importantly they wouldn't necessarily put everyone in jail.

when i blow past a red light i don't get hauled off to the county jail to spend a weekend thinking about it. i pay a steep fine. if the police could legally send out blanket letters vaguely extorting people for crimes the police just assumed everyone committed, i bet they'd haul in a fortune. fortunately the courts wouldn't allow that kind of horse shit, so the cops have to come up with at least a flimsy pretext for fining someone or charging them with a minor/petty crime.

this is how copyright enforcement works, too. sending people to prison is not only insanely expensive (the attorney fees alone scale prohibitively), but it erodes the public's tolerance of these groups pretty significantly. i remember when the RIAA was going after some people on napster and public support was just collapsing all around the RIAA. they figured out quickly that they couldn't do this more than a few times, and after that their best bet is to take a pound of flesh and just call it a day.

my big fear is that the police will adopt big brother to extract more and more bullshit settlements from people who commit crimes that are kind of bullshit in the first place. like a digital version of those police speed traps.

Oh man this is gold, wish I had a reaction image

Just take a photo of the moon lmao
Yeah, didn't think so.

Kek

Do you have any actual numbers on this? I would postulate that the added visibility/word-of-mouth of music spreading for free does much more for the band than a few CD sales. The (((record companies))) take almost all of the profits from records anyway. The band can make money from gigs, merch, kickstarter/patreon, etc. that they wouldn't make if their music was locked behind a paywall.

Pirating music only hurts the kikes.

why the fuck does it matter, you're using tor to access the site and a vpn to download right?

No, I stopped using a VPN. I just couldn't justify the price and effort given the poor quality of every VPN I've tried

>slow as fuck speeds
>banned basically everywhere
>recurring payments are annoying

>mfw I live in a shitty third world country and no one gives a fuck about what you do online

Man this reminds me of the day what.cd was taken down. So much salt on these threads.

>what is a meniscus

>when i blow past a red light i don't get hauled off to the county jail to spend a weekend thinking about it. i pay a steep fine.
But most people are glad that everyone doesn't just blow through red lights all the time, since that would put them in danger.

The police don't do this private firms that contract with the municipalities and cities do. Check out Chicago's automated red light scams or MN bullshit speed cams. You get a civil penalty not a criminal one and the vehicle receives the penalty not the driver. It's blatly corrupt and easy for cities to get away with it because if you want to contest the issue you have to do it in that jurisdiction. So if you get a civil fine on vacation and get a letter 2 weeks later you have to drive to whatever shit hole city issued their bullshit proclamation. It's a legal scam.

There is nothing like that in the way from Florida to Africa. From key west I should see the west coast of Africa.

yeah. i didn't say it was wrong. i just pointed out that it's one way the police enforce laws. the implication that the police would overcrowd prisons further assumes that all of these petty crimes cops aren't even bothering to enforce right now would yield prison sentences if they were enforced, which we both know is specious.

the entire thing is a mess and corrupt but these are municipal laws and the police could pull you over for running a red light if they cared to and there was no traffic camera. that's the point.

the fact that they outsource it to a private firm is about as related as the fact that many prisons are privately operated. it's a shame, but not relevant here.

No fucks given 2.0

Flat earths work in mysterious ways.

>Yeah, have a little faith won't you?

I don't live in an anglo country, they can collect all the data they want and send it straight to the fbi for all i care

Why don't you just buy it?

I buy things if I enjoy them. Can't know if I'll enjoy them without pirating first.

>muh secret club

because you need a super duper telescope, you idiot

portals

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Who cares if it's a honeypot. Downloading from it has no consequence anyway.

Tell that to Bach.

what makes you think the first one wasnt?

PXgamer's critical comment posted on TF:

>1. It is buggy as fuck
>2. There are major security risks
>3. It uses just a page layout dump from Archive.org (they could have at least coded some of it well, the only part that looks like they did code it was the trackers table which is completely out of place)
>4. CLIENT SIDE LOGIN VERIFICATION... like what??? Did they code this in the 90s?
>5. Using HTTPS fonts on HTTP page. (Please, you have an SSL certificate, force it)
>6. Erm... wtf...
>archive.is/otoCA
>[KAT java_klappe.js link he posted 404'd]
>Couldn't even write your own JS?
>7. Just so people know, the thousands of pounds we donated to "bringing back KAT" will just be used by PD. They are using an open source torrent site framework for the backend (and most of the frontend).

>It is not KAT, and never will be like KAT. So stop trying and make something new. Don't ruin the KAT name. The old devs were great, and open to criticism and ideas.

It's merely a myth that private trackers have higher quality and more seeders. It's the crappy handheld cams that are always on private trackers listed as "HD rip" or people stealing content from public trackers and reuploading to a private tracker in order to get more upload ratio.

They are a placebo and worse yet some idiots actually pay to be part of a private tracker. If you're not retarded and know how to use a VPN you can download movies safely from places like TPB.

>kat in charge of staying online for longer than 4 hours

torrent project is much faster

It's stupid to depend on just one site in the first place.

>It's merely a myth that private trackers have higher quality and more seeders.
t. never been on a private tracker in his life

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spherecucks BTFO

the first shit of a baby. I remember some niggers at the hospital heard that term and wanted to name their kid that because they thought it sounded cool, a nurse talked to them and explained it, and that's how I learned about it. Maybe I'm remembering the word wrong though.

There's a thread on Sup Forums talking about it being a honeypot

One user is basically saying 'stick with TPB/DHT/whatever you use, don't bother with this day old site' and there's hundreds of replies calling them paranoid etc, it's a pretty strange thread.

They're also talking about how it's only a day old and already has 800+ results on google news, which is pretty obvious paid marketing imo.

The question is, are they posting here too? Or is it just your typical user trying to disagree with whatever is said?

No matter what, I'm not going near this place. There's already dozens of better trackers, I'm not sure why this one is getting so much attention.

Looks like private trackers already did it themselves.

>moron saying stupid shit
GTFO

Since I can't say anything nice about this, I'm choosing to say nothing at all.

What.cd says hi, from the grave

PTH, Apollo?
400K torrents each in 2 weeks.
Millions of seeds.
The hydra lives on.

That's very mature of you user.

I know.
Surprising, right?

How long until the admin shuts it down and runs off with the passwords?

Excellent!