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thanks for posting anime what distro are you using btw?
Jaxon Walker
Your wife looks like she'd satisfy old men for free!
William Foster
my waifu
Christopher Green
What are some cool confings and alias for .bashrc?
Andrew Anderson
is it a good idea to run web browsers within firejail?
Landon Turner
>is it a good idea to run web browsers no, use the command line like real arch pros
Josiah Brown
command line web browsers beat that arch
Oliver Carter
no, using a fake gui is n00b-tier. use arch like me and do everything from the command line
Christopher Campbell
why does /fglt/ hate arch so much? Im using antergos as my first linux and It seems pretty good. The AUR has everything, and 'not audited' and stuff sounds more like memes just made to bash arch than real reasons, Ive never had any kinda issue with it.
Nathan Ward
fglt as Sup Forums hates everything. Anyway who the fuck cares what 4chin thinks in the first place? This site is a big meme.
Christian Ramirez
I tried ubuntu for the first time, all it did was shut off my computer when i tried to boot it. Before i stick with windows for another 10 years before trying an alternative, can someone tell me what I did wrong?
Samuel Bailey
arch has crappy, lazy devs who are utterly and completely useless, see: lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html there's no reason to use arch. all it does is make a situation more complex for no benefit. it isn't minimalistic, it isn't faster, and it's not worth anyone's time to use it. the only reason people do is because of 'look at me im so l33t not using gui installer fucking idiot noobuntu users'
Eli Phillips
i think everyone here loves the ProDistro that is arch. your just a fucking n00b though, install Arch the Arch way and get a real lightweight and minimalist distro. yes, the unauditied memes are just that, memes. how does it make anything complex lmao? is installing something without a gui really that hard? any retard with reading skills can do that. >the only reason people do is because of 'look at me im so l33t not using gui installer fucking idiot noobuntu users' nope, there are other distros which lack an installer so this can't be the reason.
James Bailey
If anyone wants more 'deets I used pendrivelinux with the latest version of xubuntu installed on a usb stick. the unzipper got to like 99% but said the files were broken? even though I downloaded the iso from the official page
Angel Clark
>thinking that packages are installed to your RAM kek also, why would arch and sjwbian take up different amounts of ram if everything else is the same? seems like a fake meme to me.
Gavin Hall
>Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc.
did you even read the link i sent?
Leo Gomez
Hey guys I'm trying to update the bios in a T61 I picked up to the Middleton bios, but am having trouble flashing directly from a bootable flashdrive. Is there a way for me to do this through Fedora 25 or Crunchbang. Every instruction online is for Windows xp. If nothing I'll try on xp if need be.
Benjamin Johnson
please respond to
John Martin
but i just did with this I see, so packages get installed to your ram? >available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc. are you implying sjwbian doesn't do all of that?
Joseph Parker
why is debian involved in this? we're discussing why arch is trash, if you want to discuss debian you should have started the discussion on debian. keep it related to the topic.
Joseph Reyes
Fuck Off. Use Arch (not memejaro, antergos or any other noob version of it) or gtfo.
Brody Taylor
the only reason to install arch (just like gentoo) is to show everyone on the internet that you did
Adam Baker
But this is just more arch-hate memes, with no real basis. Im using arch right now, given that antergos is pretty much the same, and its easy. Nothing is complicated or hard, and I used a GUI install. Do you just hate people who installed their OS in a different way from you for some reason? >i think everyone here loves the ProDistro that is arch. your just a fucking n00b though, install Arch the Arch way and get a real lightweight and minimalist distro. More of it. Ironically pretending to be retarded to bash it. Why do you fixate on your hatred of this one particular linux distribution so much, /fglt/? Its fine.
Luis Howard
did you even read the meme image you posted? it clearly mentions sjwbian in it you fucktard. Your "argument" is valid only if arch installs packages to RAM which it doesn't. How can you know this without having direct access to thoughts of all arch users? I love it and I use it every single day. Anything else is just NoobShit.
there's a reason all of the arch hate memes exist. give me 1 reason to use arch over fedora or debian/*buntu
Jack Ward
why isn't this directly on their site? i don't give a fuck if sjws use something. call me when this gets moved to archlinux.org the sjw shit on sjwbian comes from the devs themselves. 1. it isn't n00bshit 2. it's more minimalist
Easton Lee
DELET THIS
Cameron Stewart
Have you had any issues with drivers? I want to start with Antergos too but I have a fairly new nVidia graphics card (GTX 950M)
Austin Watson
>there's a reason all of the arch hate memes exist name me 1 (One) of them which is even slightly relevant. Stupid memes like "it takes up 400mb more ram xDD" without any real evidence to show this aren't a reason.
Grayson Reyes
>implying installing them is actually hard fuck off, noob. >Antergos Fuck off noobshit. Use Arch or get the fuck out.
Lincoln Miller
if you haven't seen the arch memes you haven't been on Sup Forums long enough. every single one of them has relevency, and for good reasons.
Thomas Howard
Arch is literally a bloated piece of shit. Why even use it?
Ayden Bell
Everyone can tell you're just pretending to be a dumb skiddie who thinks they're LEET to imply anyone who uses arch must be like that. It just makes you look really petty. But thats not true. It sounds like you just tried to install arch the normal way and didnt like doing it, and now you have some irrational anger towards some linux distro because you didnt like the installation. I cant for the life of me tell what the reason is. Everyone just seems so angry and spiteful towards this linux distro and anyone who uses it and its beyond explanation. All the reasons just seem weird and contrived non-reasons, and even if some of them would be reasons you wouldnt use it personally they dont justify this weird, obsessive hatred. Like, all this regurgitating copypasta about how terrible arch is with this haughty condescending tone to it, or ironically pretending to be really really stupid or obnoxious people(by your judgment at least) to imply 'anyone who uses arch is like this' half the threads. Thish isn't healthy.
Landon Morgan
Post one of them. It should easy if there's a lot of them, right? kek >every single one of them has relevency nope, this image doesn't
Ethan Kelly
arch is a meme and here is why:
it sells itself as "simple" and "lightweight", while it's actually the opposite as confirmed here that's actually not a bad thing, arch is nice, but people install it for the wrong reasons
why do we hate them?
kids who can't decide for themselves install arch linux or babby forks like antergos, a shell they don't even understand like zsh, and all the other crap they read on others screenfetches, then they come to /fglt/ and ask stupid questions like >zsh: command not found: screenfetch >please help and at the same time they're telling everyone how superior their disto and software decision are
Brayden Wilson
> confirmed here show me the two systems side by side. post the debian one which uses 400mb less ram here or your post is bullshit. >a shell they don't even understand like zsh, >implying there is anything to understand about it >implying you understand your shitty black shell
Michael Morgan
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Grayson Clark
Why do you keep trying to put Debian into a rant about Arch? Did Debian hurt your feelings in any ways?
>>implying you understand your shitty black shell
Go back to you home board, ugly Sup Forumsack.
Robert James
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Dominic Moore
Anyone who uses arch isn't leet by default, but anyone not using it is not leet. That much I can say with certainty. Now fuck off with your little antergos installation. Good meme, how is this relevant to the real world though? >if x worked It works though, why do you think it doesn't?
Caleb Powell
Read the image here It clearly mentions debian. >Go back to you home board, ugly Sup Forumsack. I'm not a Sup Forumsack though, you retarded noob.
Jason Phillips
saved
Kevin Baker
which xorg.conf are they talking about? mine works fine just remember that using false memes isn't an argument.
Jace Ortiz
and here we go again. now the threads just gonna descend into a circlejerk of memes, pasta, and blind hate about how arch users should be exterminated or something. This is not normal. if its about , then thats not a normal reaction to newbies being obnoxious sometimes. >This isn't healthy.
Gabriel Thomas
How can a .conf be broken? It's not even an executable, what are these noobs talking about? Are noobuntu users really this illiterate?
Lucas Robinson
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Ryan Fisher
What am I doing wrong here?
Ian Peterson
Anyone got links to make understanding iptables/netfilter firewall in GNU/Linux easy?
Brandon Harris
Fuck off, noob. You aren't welcome here if you can't even install arch. Post something real next time with real screenshots. Examples pulled out of your ass don't count. >weeks to manually compile openbox which is a tiny program >compile >arch LMFAO >What am I doing wrong here? not using arch and using shitty noobuntu. At least try out manjaro but then upgrade to Arch.
Ian Thompson
That's too late user. This thread already became a shit one.
Colton Myers
Welp, if you want to compare Debian to Arch:
Debian does package splitting, which means, you get just what you need instead of the full package like on Arch.
Result: 300 packages on Arch are compareable with 6-700 on debian based systemds.
Debian comes with a deblobbed kernel. You just add the modules you need. Arch comes with blobs out of the box to make it "simple", which is actually pretty much against "the arch way" and KISS.
Ryder Wood
>iptables/netfilter >GNU/ They aren't GNU specific applications and aren't part of the coreutils though. You can drop the GNU/ here.
Grayson Scott
Who is more obnoxious, archqueers or people who bitch about archqueers?
Ryder Rogers
the only reason we have the problem is because of the archqueers.
Nathaniel Johnson
Id honestly reccomend you ask on the ubuntu forums or somewhere, anywhere but here. Its obnoxious to have to make an account, but this place is useless. Its just for circlejerking about how much they hate free software, some particular linux distro(arch? void? debian? it changes day by day), and linux in general. I dont know the answer, it worked fine when I did that, but thihs place probably wont be of any help to you.
Caleb Baker
Is Arch user friendly? I don't want to have to type codes into my computer like a bitch, i just want a free Windows alternative.
Joseph Jones
I prefer calling it GNU/Linux because I like free software.
Jacob Davis
ok thanks
Jaxson Lopez
>Result: 300 packages on Arch are compareable with 6-700 on debian based systemds. I would like some stats on this one, how did you calculate this? >thinking that binary blobs = kernel modules Why the fuck are debiankids this stupid? > Arch comes with blobs out of the box to make it "simple", which is actually pretty much against "the arch way" and KISS. No, it has a generic kernel with all modules out of the box which is actually pretty simple. You can customize it later though, which all Arch users do unlike you debtards who think no binary blobs = less bloated kernel with less modules enabled. I guarantee you that your kernel is bloated as fuck and has more modules than you need.
Kevin Lopez
I'm so used to saying GNU/Linux that It's become a habit to say that when just linux is what you should say.
James Taylor
>he things GNU just covers the coreutils found the tech illiterate
Luke Smith
He's still right, there is no GNU software that covers iptables or netfitler. It's all built into the linux kernel.
Nathaniel Davis
>I would like some stats on this one, how did you calculate this? If you want the program, you get "program". If you want to compile it yourself, you get "program-dev". This example already doubles the package count.
Liam Wilson
The system isn't the kernel only. Fuck off.
Jonathan King
>I prefer But I don't care about your feelings. The applications you listed aren't specific to GNU or the linux kernel. There's no need to mention your OS there. So? The applications aren't written by GNU or exclusive to Linux, GNU/Linux, busybox/Linux or anything/Linux. What does it "cover" then? Things like grub aren't part of the coreutils so using them isn't enough to start calling your system GNU/Linux. By that logic my system should be called Firefox/Linux
Ryder Green
If you're not comfortable with the terminal, you'll have a hard time with arch linux. Thankfully, antergos is just arch linux with a GUI installer. Antergos uses the same repos as arch linux and the same package manager. Archfags at the arch linux forums get easily butthurt about antergos so just ask here rather than there.
Asher Flores
wew lad i'm glad the BSD family doesn't have this problem
Hunter Lewis
>By that logic my system should be called Firefox/Linux By your logic your systems hould be called Firefox/Firefox
Dylan Williams
except the complete OS is cucked by it's license
Angel Lewis
How does it matter? Do you list your whole system when talking about file system support too? Which BSD do you use? How? Explain it with direct citations of the license.
Angel Cooper
I run FreeBSD on one of my laptops.
Nicholas Nelson
>How? Explain it with direct citations of the license. Calling BSD a cuckold license is a meme, don't take it too seriously.
Nicholas Bailey
I know, that's why I told him to do something impossible.
Ryder Fisher
If I start a process (runnable jar for example) via CLI on my vps (debian) as a daemon, how can I control it after for example logging out? Only possible way to search for the process and kill it in case I want it to shut down?
Juan Allen
You're correct. Technically the system is always a combination of random programs, kernels, libs, etc. So when you need to choose a name for it, why not promoting the system that started it all and promote free software instead of calling it "Linux", which tries to hide that important part just for convenience? By the way, you're correct that stuff like embedded systems with busybox and linux or android aren't GNU/Linux systems, but how is this relevant here?
Mason Bell
The BSD license allows taking BSD code and making it proprietary. You're literally watching others fucking your code.
Carson Bailey
I don't care about your feelings, habits or your "promotion" of anything. Just don't add unnecessary retarded shit when discussing a specific issue. Use GNU/kernel whenever discussing a GNU coreutils or GNU issue, use Linux when discussing a kernel issue. I couldn't care less about your particular choice of software which is irrelevant to the discussion. >embedded systems with busybox busybox isn't just for embedded systems. It can be used literally on any distro and alpine (a desktop distro) already uses it. Android is just a fork of Linux so calling it linux is retarded.
Andrew Hall
>direct citations of the license. Did you somehow miss this part? >You're literally watching others fucking your code. I'm not though, I'm not a programmer. If anything I'm cucking someone else by using BSD.
Jeremiah Watson
forcing freedom isn't freedom
Brandon Stewart
Is this something like a /fglt/-Medley thread? >arch vs debian >gnu vs linux >gpl vs bsd >zsh bs bash If so, I want to contribute:
I just installed Arch, how to remove systemd? I heard it is bad.
Luke Jackson
see
Owen Ortiz
>t. guy you doesn't understand why slavery is illegal
Forcing freedom is freedom, which means ensuring that nobody can enslave you. "Doing whatever you want" is anarchy, which always leads to slavery.
Ryan Edwards
How is proprietary software slavery? Are you retarded? If a install a proprietary application in a VM have I somehow become a slave?
Evan Nguyen
>Forcing freedom is freedom no, forcing your choice of software isn't freedom. if you force me to not use any proprietary software I'm not free.
Jaxson Sanders
Are you free to use the program as you with, to change the source code, share the results of your changes, or are you only allowed to run it as the developer (your master) wants you to?
Brayden Torres
wish*
Nobody is forcing your choice of software. The GPL just ensures that free code will stay free.
Samuel Robinson
kek
Carter Clark
>Are you free to use the program as you with, to change the source code, share the results of your changes no, what if i don't care about doing any of that? Most people don't. >allowed to run it as the developer (your master) wants you to? This, I am free to not use it though which can't be called slavery by any stretch of the imagination. That guy implied he is okay with forcing everyone to use free software when he said "forcing "freedom" is freedom".
Luke Myers
Ok thanks, downloading antergos now. It says I need a constant internet connection to use it? Is there a way to turn that off?
Blake Jackson
>That guy implied he is okay with forcing everyone to use free software I didn't, but it's a good idea. Proprietary software should be illegal.
Julian Myers
How can you be free if you aren't allowed to run a program on your computer? Whatever you are offering here can't be called freedom so stop using that term.
Jason Russell
>acting like you were me foul play :^)
Adrian Ross
>implying that isn't an actual position the vast majority of gnutards hold kek any gnutard can feel free to disprove this.
Asher Rogers
>How can you be free if you aren't allowed to run a program on your computer? I said proprietary software should be illegal, not running whatever you want should be illegal. Stop the strawman already.
James Wood
So if I make my own proprietary license and distribute software created under it to my friend and he isn't free to run it this is somehow called freedom?
Carson Carter
No, I said proprietary software should be illegal, not running whatever you want should be illegal.
That said, what's the point in creating proprietary software?
