I was about to update my i5-2500 until i heard about this zen CPU

I was about to update my i5-2500 until i heard about this zen CPU

Is AMD gonna have a ZEN CPU for around 250-300$ by february?
and will it be better for gaming than a intel cpu at that price point

You are better off keeping the 2500 than buying one of the Zens. Itll run stuff better

Wow

Supposed leak says middle of Jan release.

The CPU will probably be $249 or something close to it, thats the 8c16t I believe.

Still these are rumors, low expectations and you wont risk burning yourself.

Considering zen is 8c/16t I doubt you'd get better gaming results. Zen seems like a good option for cheap multithreaded apps

are you sure because I have a non K version and it only goes up to 3.7ghz

>$249 or something close to it, thats the 8c16t
amdrones really are delusional

You can OC it to something like 4.2ghz by messing up with the turbo settings. But I don't know exactly

Nope my bad sorry, I thought you had the 2500k.
I wouldnt go near the zens to be honest, I wouldnt even go near the skylakes, not worth the money.
Just get something from the3 /4/ ranges like 4790k or 3790k, 4670k Clocked they will be as good.
The 4790k is 10% off a 6700k.

CES is in two weeks buddy
I expect much more info from AMD then
Hopefully some pricing and stuff will surface

There hasn't been a good AMD cpu since the Athlon.

Prove me wrong Poojeet

why didn't you get the k? as i recall, the price difference between the two was like $20 or $30 at release. i still have the 2500k OCed to 4.8ghz and the only upgrade i've made to my pc since I got it all those years ago is the gtx 1080. Can play all new games with maxed settings at 1920x1200 no problems.

Phenom II

>Phenom II

would've been a good uarch if amd didn't take two years to fix it.

ps4s have 8 cores multi thread gaming will explode this gen with the console vanguard leading the way

Kind of already happened ; Witcher 3 and battlefield games are severely bottlenecked by quad cores

Those where destroyed by the core series.

Some website allegedly has a contest ending in January where they're giving away a new Ryzen CPU as a prize. That would seem to indicate that they'll be available, and lines up with Su saying they'd be available "*very* soon."

They'll end up pretty decent in most things. Even if serial performance is in the range of Ivy Bridge, having 8 physical cores and 16 threads to throw around will give them a solid advantage over quad cores in modern titles.

There have been a plethora of games since 2010~ which make use of 4 or more cores. Its not uncommon for a game engine to at least address atll 16 threads in a high end Haswell-E chip, which puts them at the top of benches ahead of higher clocked mainstream quad core parts.
Overwhelmingly serial bound games are already fading into nothingness.

t. Intel

Just get a 6700k, it will literally double you performance in almost every game you play. The 2500k is outated. People cling to it but once I upgraded to it it was amazing.

>update my i5-2500
how do you update a cpu?

this
they released a rebranded 8350 for 1k two years after the initial release. shitbags.
if it competes with intels 1k chips they'll more than likely price it at that point.

>spending 15-20% of the total price for AT BEST 5% potential increase of performance
>at the cost of cpu lifespan, louder fans, and more power consumption
lol you're fucking retarded if you buy a line of cpus which force premium prices for the release of locks on your multiplier.

Zen will be priced high. They need the profit.

Zen is the new faildozer

Only thing to do now is wait for the Zen release. Wait for the official prices and response from Intel (If any). If the prices from AMD seem reasonable, then they won't be a bad option. If intel lower their mid-range CPUs by about $100 USD then you can make a choice based off that.

There seems to be quite a lot of Intel shilling ITT. But don't let them fuck everything over for you. Pay for what performance you seem fit, but at the very least, wait for the full release next year.

People get turned off from seeing a 'supposed' $500 pricetag for the top tier CPU AMD has going for it, but forget that it has equal (give or take) performance to Intel. And that AMD are going to charge based off this.

I'm interested to see what happens next year and will base my build come Ryzen/Vega results.

from leaks,

4 core 8 thread - 150
6 core 12 thread - 250
8 core 16 thread - 350
8 core 16 thread special - 500

though i doubt the leaks are true, they do look to be positioning base 8 core 16 thread at consumer i7 prices.

that was the 9000 and it was for a 3~ month period of time, at that point I think it was oem only as the only msrp i can find from amd specifically states around 250-260$

They released it to oems, some of which then resold the cpus alone, and because there was no retail price, they sold it for around 1000$

the whole issue of the 9000 is kind of a cluster fuck of unverifiable information, however, the last verifiable info we can find is when amd was stronger then intel,

intel sold their cpu at 1000$ amd matched its performance and sold the cpu for 300$ and every cpu more powerful for 1200 and 1500$

Its kind of interesting to look into old prices and see the strategies they did to sell more.

Why buy anything other than the 4 core model? 16 hyperthreads is retarded

its all about load balance, windows will sometimes take a core out entirely, or start something up int he background that eats 2 of mine, on a quad core, that basically kills its ability to play a game at any reasonable frame rate/ frame timing.

however an 8 core may lack the higher maximum frame rate, at least in games that don't scale passed 4 cores, it does have better load balancing in that if windows or some application wants to nuke a single core, it doesn't effect what I want to do.

hell, right now on idle I have around 25-35% of my cpu in use just because of background applications. an 8 core could handle my entire cpus load with only 2 of its cores, freeing 6 fresh cores up entirely for me to fuck around with.

yes and yes

/thread
>tfw fell for the fx meme
pos of shit, I threw it in the garbage bin.

nope, they kept up till sandybridge if not overshadowed everything in the core series that was not an extreme chip.

potentially higher binned chips too, because they are locked we cant tell, but I do believe they are lower binned and would overclock like shit, I mean how bad would it be if you bought a chip only to have it oc 200mhz over stock, but someone else got it 1400 over stock?

look, the k for the 6700 has a 97% rate of them hitting 4.6 or 4.7ghz, 86 for the next 100 and 30 for the next sub 10 for the next.

>8 cores in a desktop processpr

with the review of the i3 7350k, 2 cores processor is dying.

4 cores will be the new 2 cores in 2017.

8 cores seems great but suffer from lower clockspeed.

i hope Ryzen 6 cores can balanced both number of cores and clockspeed.

There'll probably be a higher clocked refresh in 2018.
7nm Zen+ parts in 2019 should be clocked significantly higher than these 14nm parts.

bah phenom II is awesome.
fx is worthless unless you absolutely need MOAR COARZ!!!

the 7350k is still 2 cores 4 threads, and there are 3 i3's that are 2 core 2 threads

hell, all desktop i3 processors were 2 core 4 thread, now 3 of them are only 2 core 2 thread, there was a literal regression in progress.

I've got that many in my phone

>on par with $1150 cpu
>250

Wrong

>Overwhelmingly serial bound games are already fading into nothingness.
sweet
can't wait for my entire library of games to get patches for proper multithreading

>The CPU will probably be $249 or something close to it
And you base this on what?

You should keep the i5 and overclock it. AMD will probably release a "faster" CPU but they achieve it by having twice as many cores.

word from AMD itself is that it will be late Q1, so probably in March.

the only leaks I've seen related to price put the higher bin 8c/16t chips at 500 bucks and the regular SKU at 350, which is perfectly fine IF it delivers perf-wise

>The CPU will probably be $249 or something close to it, thats the 8c16t I believe.

8c16t - $450
6c12t - $300
4c8t - $150

No they didn't you fucking pleb. Phenom 2 had core2 IPC. The nehalem beat them and sandy even more so. The only good thing about phenom 2 was the price and muh 6 core version.

lol he's talking about the phenom II that smoked the q6600 and definitely won that generation. nobody bought AMD after sandy bridge though.