Ubuntu:
>good support and high user base but bloated as fuck with amazon spyware
Arch:
>Minimalist and highly customizable with great wiki but pacman is a heap of shit that breaks for no reason and has the second worst installation process next to Gentoo
Mint:
>User-friendly and good for winfags but insecure as shit and also bloated
Fedora:
>User-friendly and secure with minimal bloat but shills free software to no end and fucks over AMD users.
Install Gentoo
I've used Arch for 3 years and I've yet to experience this mythical system breakage.
Use Xubuntu fagget
pacman hasn't break me anything in 5 years of usage. I don't know where "pacman -Syu breks ur pc breh" meme is coming from.
If installation process bothers you, install Antergos.
How is mint insecure? I'm curious.
Gr8 b8 m8.
>Ubuntu: good support and high user base but bloated as fuck with amazon spyware
Use Ubuntu Mate
>Mint: User-friendly and good for winfags but insecure as shit and also bloated
Not bloated, and also not insecure as shit. Show me an example of a computer being hacked because someone didn't get an immediate update.
I've never used Arch or Fedora, so I won't comment on them.
Ubuntu minimal install and now fuck off
In February a mint iso was uploaded with spyware
Its not.
it was fixed. drop it.
not very long tho
openSUSE
best of all worlds
Void Linux
Not OP but I'm tempted to try Void Linux in a VM, but everyone on Sup Forums tells me it's a bad distro and a meme.
This, but I'm only at 1 or 2 years. Things are pretty stable.
I use Arch, but you won't believe my claims in defense of it anyway, so instead I'll tell you to try Ubuntu minimal. It'll be easier than a vanilla Arch install, but similarly barren to a fresh Arch install. If you want a GUI, you'll have to install xorg and a wm/de of choice.
It's a meme, but I haven't heard anything bad about it.
Ubuntu is kinda bloated but it runs fine on modern devices with 4GB+ RAM
Amazon spyware is not a thing since Xenial
You left out Debian.
The good Linux distro.
Most people wind up on Debian or Arch eventually.
People with jobs use Debian and people with too much free time use Arch.
What about solus? Its totally original and looks pretty cool. Im making the switch to linux for the first time and deciding between this and mint
>pacman breaks
>pacman, a simple, high quality package manager that is written in plain c has a meme about breaking
>not portage, a hacked together script of a package manager, which is written in python
"muh gentoo meme"
>Ubuntu
>bloated as fuck
>amazon spyware
nice meme
I see you haven't tried Solus yet.
That explains your flawed judgement
Fucking this.
These bait lists always ignore openSUSE, or the best you get is le epic pepe maymay.
all the stories with arch having problems is scaring me. I might go with debian to start
>torrent was still fine
>not using the torrent, ever
>their download got hax0red
>still has literally nothing to do with the OS itself
Spotted the idiot that can't install Arch despite all the documentation and tutorials
TFW (((linux)))
yeah, i know.
do it from scratch and tell the gentoo goobers to BTFO
I'm old.
Using Debian just makes life easier.
Codecs are still pain in the ass.
Come to BSD and *nix
They hold back kernels updates and blacklist security patches in the name of stability. They butcher Firecucks' profile to insert their adware. They provide their own butchered package repo that tends to create package conflicts and broken systems. They're building their own apps against an ancient, unsupported toolkit and other libs (forget wayland and security). The site hack is just a mirror image of their bad practices. Don't be a fool!
BSD IS FUCKING GARBAGE KYS
grow up you child
>Fedora:
>>User-friendly and secure with minimal bloat but shills free software to no end and fucks over AMD users.
Looks perfect to me since they are not using a real computer
Spotted the Archtoddler. Are you a cool hacker yet?
Slackware
Ya thought the same and had the a perfect record with updates until a nvidia update broke my gl-libs a few times. Other then that arch IMO is pretty stable .
GNU is life.
Bless you based user!
BSD
S
D
>use the same software on something that barely tested with because posix hurr durr
No thanks. Even basement dwellers need some stability.
Solus is fine. If you're on a desktop get solus (has some difficulties with WiFi drivers for laptops) if you are using a laptop bet mint.
Fpbp
fuck off
I have no stability issues I don't know what you mean, please expand
>xorg
when will this meme die?
>openSUSE
really? YaST is cancer and should be avoided at all cost.
>These bait lists always ignore openSUSE, or the best you get is le epic pepe maymay.
opensuse is shit
Adding packman and getting the codecs takes all of a minute.
>Mint:
>Insecure
prove this without that old meme
>takes all of a minute.
>not seconds
Dropped. :^)
So yeah, exactly as I said. No worthwhile argument against the distro.
I meant to say avoid linux, sorry.
>I have no stability issues
Good for you, but it won't help.
>totally original
>systemd
>x
>no wayland
>totally not a ukranian botnet
Yast2 is became shit, default partinioning is shit.
Try using mutter-wayland with proprietary drivers and come back to me.
>tfw too smart not to use debian
>No mageia
>No Rosa
>No centos
>No slackware
>No Alpine
>No OpenSuse
Et c et c
See
debian literally has no flaws
debian just straight up not worked when i tried. on the other hand I've had literally 0 problems with manjaro
Ubuntu can be unbloated. Or just install ubuntu server and then install Gnome or something separately
I have the same problem. Every DE comes with a shit ton of packages that I don't want and I can't be fucked uninstalling them manually not knowing if I am breaking other dependencies.
I install Debian core but then I can't seem to figure out how to get a minimal install of KDE or Gnome3 without their pre-packaged crap.
I can't use i3 and openbox because I take my autism meds daily, it won't work.
How you get 700? I used minimal installer and then selected Xubuntu desktop. I start off 2000 packages.
i know im not supposed to use Sup Forums as tech support site but jesus christ google is not helping me and im hoping someone will help.
i know absolutely fucking nothing about linux but i want to learn so i downloaded solus. i didnt want ubuntu or mint that hold your hand, i want to get in balls deep and actually learn.
i cannot figure out how to install a program. i downloaded slimjet web browser because it looks right up my alley. i have the .tar.xz package and then i extracted it. but dont know where to go. i looked up "installing slimjet to linux". i got close with ./flashpeak-slimjet and then it said there was no such file or directory. i tried looking up how to install programs on solus.
im just totally lost. maybe im being too ambitious but it cant be *that* hard. im just not finding the appropriate tutorial for a total beginner like myself.
KDE: apt install KDE-standard
Great i will try that in VM first.
Debian is literally the best Linux distro. I once owned a server (Tor Middle Relay) that ran Debian and it was stable as hell (no crashes, no stupid reboots required for updates) and not to mention how easy it was to manage the server. I stopped running the Tor node the next month due to my ISP raising the price on bandwidth.
>Gnome
Install Gnome Shell only.
On Arch there is gnome-shell package, but you need to uninstall one or two more packages, if my memory serves me correctly.
How do I make the DE and X start on boot? It takes me to a CLI login screen. After that I have to manually start X each session.
join the KDE brotherhood. gnome can keep their wannabe tablet UI.
Add this:
[ -z "$DISPLAY" -a "$(fgconsole)" -eq 1 ] && exec startx
to your ~/.bash_profile or ~/.zprofile (if you're using zsh).
>[ -z "$DISPLAY" -a "$(fgconsole)" -eq 1 ] && exec startx
This will work on Debian as well?
THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR HOME PARTITION
forums.debian.net
How can:
if DISPLAY variable is empty and fgconsole output equal 1 then execute startx
destroy your partition?
Ohh fuck someone used my meme
Ubuntu:
Just don't use unity and you are fine. Also there are minimal install disks w/o DE or WM.
Arch:
Just try not to be stupid, but yeah it's not worth the hassle.
Mint:
LOL
Fedora:
>shilling free software
Shiggidy diggidy
someone help i ran this and it deleted my system32 folder.
>Ubuntu:
>>good support and high user base but bloated as fuck with amazon spyware
Get ubuntu server, install the stuff you need
>Arch:
>>Minimalist and highly customizable with great wiki but pacman is a heap of shit that breaks for no reason and has the second worst installation process next to Gentoo
Nothing breaks unless you are retarded
>with amazon spyware
We are not in 2015 anymore, m9
Wtf is slimjet. quick Google makes it look like malware bundled shit
Generally you use a package manager for this shit but solus, whatever it's repo is called, supposedly doesn't have many stuff
Sounds like you downloaded a source. What language is it? Does it have something like waf or configure?
its still in there though just disabled in the UI but they are tracking searches under the hood.
how customizable is Debian? better than arch?
Excuse me Mr KDE Shill, can I ask why you prefer Fedora over Debian? I've seen you post in favour of Fedora a few times, I'm not advanced enough to use Arch yet, but love KDE.
>i know absolutely fucking nothing about linux
>i cannot figure out how to install a program.
>im just totally lost.
you're new. this is what being new feels like.
swim, or sink, just don't post about it on Sup Forums
well i made a bit of progress in the right direction. the directions say this " Extract the archive into any folder you choose. Run the wrapper script "flashpeak-slimjet" from the terminal for the first time to enable the sand box (admin access required). After that, you can run the wrapper script from a desktop shortcut." i get to the point of trying to enable the sandbox before i get stuck. i press 1 to use sudo command, enter my password which doesnt actually show up and then i hit enter and get the error.
Your password not showing up when you type it is normal, and good practice
I know kevin's flashy viral marketing made solus seem great, and maybe it will be, but it is simply not a beginner distro.
Try ubuntu and debian, where they have 100s of youtube help videos on every beginner topic
They're literally all the same :-)
Having used Arch since 2009 I don't remember pacman ever seriously breaking. I remember having to manually uninstall and install some packages according to instructions on Arch's news, or experiencing some broken (bugged) packages that got in the repos (and most times you could fix that with a rollback while the mainteners fixed it upstream), but nothing nearly as serious as what you'd experience on a portage breakage.
Recently (as in the last 3 years or so) pacman's become even more reliable, I don't even remember when was the last time an update needed intervention.
>has the second worst installation process next to Gentoo
>Implying partitioning and installing base packages is difficult.
>Running bash script on Command Prompt.
I've been using Fedora and the bleeding edge is shitting my GPU support. How is Debian in that regards? I just want a workstation that doesn't shit itself when I play a video.
My GPU is an ATI Radeon 4200
That is nothing to do with being up to date, it's because you are using the open source drivers, switch to proprietary for a smoother experience, you will need RPM Fusion enabled to do this
I can't switch. The legacy drivers for my GPU are for kernel > 3.6 or some shit, and I've got kernel 4.8 or something.
You guys will shun me, but I like playing some games in Steam, and since I've upgraded to F25 from F23, it always freezes or shits itselfs randomly, and I used open source drivers with F23.
My ded question in Fedora' ask:
ask.fedoraproject.org
>>good support and high user base but bloated as fuck
xubuntu/kubuntu are ubuntu without the bloat
so there you have it
i cant open pdf files on xubuntu without crashing half of xfce DE
Rookie Linux user going with Fedora for a Linux system admin course. Getting numerous errors when trying to install in a VM. Pic related is the bottom of the attempted install, obviously there is more info I can't fit into a single image.
Is something wrong with the ISO or my VM settings? I'm allotting 4gb RAM, 60gb memory, and 1 core for the VM. Additionally I'm mildly familiar with VMware and have used it to tinker with Ubuntu and Debian, neither of which gave me any issues like this.
Try these next: Ubuntu Mate, ZorinOS, solus, openSUSE, apricity, Sabayon, rosa, Mageia.
You'll find your soul mate soon, user.