Give me ONE (1) reason NOT to buy hosting from a cheap VPS and host my own OPENVPN server???!!!

Give me ONE (1) reason NOT to buy hosting from a cheap VPS and host my own OPENVPN server???!!!

Why isn't everyone doing this instead of giving money to shekelburg VPN companies?

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because Sup Forums lacks the know how.

You can follow a step by step tutorial.

Other than possible privacy issues arising from the VPS provider, I can't. It's what I do. Took about an hour to set up, from buying the VPS, installing and configuring OpenVPN and unbound, and testing the connection.

which is already asking too much from Sup Forums who can't into a terminal unless it's to start ncmpcpp

Because the only reason anyone buys VPN service is to torrent, and if you get DMCA complains they'll shut down your VPS account. And VPN services are generally a lot cheaper than VPS services, mine is $18 /yr.

Why would you use vpn? Because you do something illegal?
Maybe better to be honest citizen and have nothing to hide and fear?

because you only get ip

>Why would you use vpn? Because you do something illegal?

Just for security.

Do you recommend it for me? Should I do it?

>Because the only reason anyone buys VPN service is to torrent, and if you get DMCA complains they'll shut down your VPS account

I have torrented without a VPN for ever and never gotten a single DMCA notice.

I live in Canada.

Mostly this, some VPS won't comply though. Usually the ones who take bitcoin. You'll end up saving about $7-8 a month maybe.

github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

Because I can't associate my VPS with shady practices and websites,there's legit stuff on my VPS

Because cheap VPSes are bandwidth limited

>You'll end up saving about $7-8 a month maybe.
VPN services aren't that expensive. As I said, mine is $18 per year. Go find me a VPS service that will ignore DMCA requests, doesnt care if I transfer 5+ TB /month, costs under $2 per month and isnt on a host which is so grossly over provisioned that connections constantly timeout.

>As I said, mine is $18 per year

Which one?

because the vpn i use gives me 80 locations to choose from, and also over 200 proxy addresses so i can use jdownloader to get direct download files

Ok, here we go. You can use SOCKS, so there is no need in VPN.

ibVPN

Was gonna say Ecatel but I guess they got shut down. Not surprised.

is it good

I guess? I've transferred over 5TB in a month and they didnt care.

Most vpn providers offer servers all over the globe, have a sizable userbase, and some even claim to have a 0 logging policy and accept bitcoin.
And they don't discriminate any network protocols.
Most vps providers usually have strict anti-torrent policies, plus you're stuck with a single static outgoing ip address, and it's specific to your account.

Openvpn is easier to setup than mpd.

>plus you're stuck with a single static outgoing ip address, and it's specific to your account.

I don't mind. I'm not a criminal.

How much do they cost per month?

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answer this then:

Why the fuck would you use socks.

VPN is for security, and socks does not offer that security.

VPN then socks? or vice versa?

SOCKS is just a proxy right?

Yes.

But why use both.

I dont know? Why would you use SOCKS proxy instead of a vpn?

You wouldn't.

No benefit to it at all, people only use that from Compromised PCs for illegal activities.

SOCKS is less resource intensive.

OK, but it wont provide you with any security or obfuscation.

Well others do, privacy is the main reason people get vpns.

What?

Is the difference in resources between vpn and socks a limiting factor for modern infrastructure?

Why would there even be any difference.

>Well others do, privacy is the main reason people get vpns.

Yes, from others on the network they use, or when travelling, or when torrenting.

Being safe from legal requests is for criminals.

VPN uses encryption. Some CPUs might lack fast crypting capabilities. But yes, on modern desktops VPN would be better

Have fun when your government brands you a criminal over some arbitrary law they pass.

That's not going to happen in a Western country.

It's not the same in Canada.

I'm in the US on Comcast, and I used to get notices before using a VPN. I got one because it's really cheap, is good for security, has some other handy uses, and considering how much they rape me for my cable... it's better safe than sorry and wind up paying for throttled service.

>has some other handy uses

Such as? What are some handy uses. Why is it good for security.

Convince me to use a VPN as someone who has never used one.

>That's not going to happen in a Western country.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's already happening fool.
Criticizing rapefugees is a hatecrime in Germany.
Banning porn in Britian and South Carolina.
Drawings of cartoon little girls is illegal in Canada and Britain.
Trump has already said he's for censoring parts of the internet, and who knows what he'll criminalize if he's in a pissy mood.

>Banning porn in Britian and South Carolina.

Porn is degenerate, this is a good thing.
>Drawings of cartoon little girls is illegal in Canada and Britain.

Pedophilia is just plain wrong, this is a good thing.

>Trump has already said he's for censoring parts of the internet, and who knows what he'll criminalize if he's in a pissy mood.

He'll do what is right.

> Why is it good for security.
Specific security measures depends on the service, but I shouldn't have to explain why obscuring your traffic is good for security.

>What are some handy uses
A service with servers in other countries can get you access to region limited content (netflix, youtube, etc) you might not be able to access normally.

>Specific security measures depends on the service, but I shouldn't have to explain why obscuring your traffic is good for security.

Can the VPN provider intercept my data

how easy is it to use a VPN with arch?

They could. Many of them claim they don't, and I'm sure some of them are telling the truth.

It does kind of come down to how much you trust your service.

Everyone knows censorship of the internet is every governments endgame, but the lack of privacy and anti-censorship technologies being developed is really disappointing. Outside of tor (which is constantly being attacked by nation-states, and I personally do not trust it) there isn't really anything to help protect us.

You didn't comment on the rapefugees, why's that?

Not a problem in my opinion.

The more they try to normalize Mudslimes the bigger the resistance will be.

This is why I also support Black Lives Matter, and in fact I have a twitter account with a bit of a following false-flagging as a Black Lives Matter supporter who keeps pushing the envelope.

The tides of change are coming.

>and cuck of the month goes to...
Honestly if this isn't bait, it's people like you who really ruin countries. It's never just the corrupt rulers of this world to blame, it's about faggots like you who follow them.

We all know the golden age of the internet is going to die sooner or later, but you would be contempt either way, right?

>inb4dramaqueen

>They could

Are you sure?

Upon googling it seems to say they can't. Since you use HTTPS. If you weren't using SSL then sure it seems they could.

1) It costs more
2) You defeat the purpose if you're the only one using it
3) Most people can't configure openvpn server

Congrats, you'll be targeted as a criminal for instigating violence and be branded a domestic terrorist.
So I guess you should get a vpn, unless you wanna become Tyrone's fucktoy in the penitentiary.

Are you manually checking the SSL certificates yourself. The government of any large country has the ability to create genuine SSL certificates which they hold the private key to, which they can then use to MITM you

>implying the definition of "honest citizen" can't or won't be changed when fascict theocracy / feminazis / Chinese / muslims / alien overlords take over
>implying shit can't or won't be used against you retroactively
Coming from an ex-commie country currently overtaken but protofascist catholic right I have no such illusions.

I just don't want some nigger slav to steal my bank login and credit card info.

I don't give a shit about the Government of China checking to make sure I'm not insulting the Glorious Peoples' Republic. I don't have state secrets or anything.

Why even use a VPN when you can use ssh -D?

Is ssh more secure than open vpn?

Maybe if you add MFA and use authorised Key's. But you'll have to rout your network traffic over ssh, and I think that would be way less efficient

should i use a vpn or not.

>Your VPS provider would almost certainly co-operate with inquiries relating to questionable activity and may log incoming connections.
>Even if the VPS does not log/cooperate you are the only one connecting to it and that make deducing who is uisng it very, very easy
>Commercial VPNs have plenty of traffic + no logs + anonymity they are actually more secure than making your own if you need anonymity.

>>Your VPS provider would almost certainly co-operate with inquiries relating to questionable activity and may log incoming connections.

I'm not a criminal.

And it's unlikely they'll go through a datacenter to spy on one guy.

>>Even if the VPS does not log/cooperate you are the only one connecting to it and that make deducing who is uisng it very, very easy

I'm not a criminal, I don't intend to be investigated in a criminal investigation. So there is no need.

>>Commercial VPNs have plenty of traffic + no logs + anonymity they are actually more secure than making your own if you need anonymity.

I also don't trust those big meme commercial VPN companies, their websites look like a fucking "as seen on tv" page.

>I'm not a criminal.

This is basically the nothing-to-hide argument.
A quick search will reveal why this argument is cancerous and retarded, so quit baiting Sup Forums and fuck off.

But it is true.

I'm not a criminal so i really don't care that if a criminal investigation occurred, the VPS Provider would give out my info.

I know i know. you're going to start saying some Dystopian shit about le government changing the laws and becoming evil and locking you up.

My counter to that: How CAN I be safe besides living in a rice field in Mongolia then?


If the government WANTED to, could they not, create a facebook account in your name, work with your ISP to make it seem like you posted Child Porn on your facebook page? I mean what you're saying is ridiculous, a VPN isn't going to save you if your government went full 1984.

Then you dont really need a VPN friend, and none of the advice you are getting applies.

The big ones probably shouldn't be trusted. Find a nice Russian one from a carding forum if you want a solid and anonymous VPN. Make you you can pay with bitcoin/perfect money/wmz etc.

>Then you dont really need a VPN friend, and none of the advice you are getting applies.

I want to use it just to keep my shit encrypted and for when I use public networks.

You're looking at it from the other extreme. If the government wanted to arrest you that bad, they wouldn't bother fabricating evidence, they'd just arrest you.
Look if you don't value your privacy then by all means, do whatever it is that you do.
I'd say most privacy advocates have nothing to hide either, but that doesn't mean government, criminal, or corporate spying is okay.
But if you're complacent, that's a green flag for their actions.

Just forward all your traffic through an SSH tunnel to a private computer.

for the same reason people by "mail hosting" or "web hosting" services, they either don't know you can do that on a general vps, or don't want to set it up themselves

>Look if you don't value your privacy then by all means, do whatever it is that you do.
>I'd say most privacy advocates have nothing to hide either, but that doesn't mean government, criminal, or corporate spying is okay.

I value privacy in measure.

If it starts to impede on my quality of life I rather have less privacy. Yes I know it gives a greenlight, but my government is probably the least likely to do any of this shit.

And IF IT DID, at that point shit has officially hit the fan, in which case none of this matters anyways.

This is like when people talk about using BTC as a hedge against Modern Civilization collapsing. Nigger if the stock markets are dead, your bitch ass internet currency for drugs isn't going to be much fucking use.

I've heard of ssh -D, but does it really route all traffic through the ssh server? What about DNS enquiries?

>Using OpenVPN

Have fun being blocked on networks that use DPI.

Yes, though you'll have to configure it appropriately and test for DNS leaks on a per application basis.
Alternatively, you could use sshuttle which claims to simplify all this.

Please tell me more. What is DPI?

Deep Packet Inspection.

By default, most OpenVPN services leave their OpenVPN signature in the packets. Because of this, network administrators can use DPI to find the signature and then either block the device MAC address from accessing the network or trace it back to the server where they can block the server or block the default OpenVPN port.

DPI is also used in China to censor certain key/buzzwords.

1. You have a static IP, so what's the point? VPNs are designed to run on shared IPs so companies can't associate IPs with users.

If you're living in a communist shithole, you can just stealth it to look like a HTTPS request instead

But seriously, if your ISP blocks OpenVPN it's time to find a new ISP or new country.

China still has other ways around this.

Just search for the Golden Shield Project.

>protofascist catholic right
You're almost making it sound like that's a bad thing user

Because I got a lifetime subscription in Windscribe for 40 euros.

lmfao what is this shit

* VPSes are unsafe
* VPN providers have physical security and diskless servers
* VPSes only have 1 IP that's only used by you. VPNs have shared IPs, much safer.

a VPN service provider.

>* VPSes are unsafe

[citation needed]

>one person using a dedicated VPS (or if you give friends access >10 people)
>hundreds if not thousands of people using a server at the same time

guess which is easier to track

I just want my traffic to be encrypted.

>play video games
>beating the enemy team hard
>some fucker gets my IP
>boots me offline

I guess go for it, the way I see it though is a company that has netsec people working for them can make a vpn more secure than I could

>restart router
>

but I have a static IP to host my servers, so I'd have to go through the hassle of making it dynamic then resetting it, then redoing all my portforwarding

((((Company)))l

Dude it's literally a teenager. That's what vpn companies are

all of the following aren't
AirVPN
AzireVPN
BlackVPN
CryptoStorm
DoubleHop
EarthVPN
FrootVPN
ovpn

All are owned by teenagers and are exactly the same

What VPN does Sup Forums use? I'm looking for one but there are so many I have no idea which one to use

ok give me proof, cause if you look into the CEO or owner of any of those I named it's a grown man - not replying to you until you give something to back up your claim

>host my servers
>some fucker gets my IP
>boots me offline

Nice hosting dude, stronk as OVH

I'm hosting off a fucking home connection what're you expecting