/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
pcpartpicker.com

>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for the i3 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
logicalincrements.com/

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL (embed)

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC


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First for zen hype

First for zen skepticism

>Zen
It's Ryzen you fool!

Third or fourth or whatever for i3 7350K hype and i3 6100 overclocking

Daily reminder that 90% of you first time buildniggers are better off with an H110 mATX or mini ITX motherboard than a B150 or higher chipset.

why is mini smaller than micro?

Hey Sup Forums, got a question.

Is there a benefit to plugging in a case fan into both the mobo's sys_fan header and the PSU over just plugging it into the header?

Also, how does my first gaming build look so far? Pic related.

I still need to improve my cable management and get the 1060 and a few other things but it works and I'd say it's about 85-90% complete.

Components: pcpartpicker.com/list/zHMTM8

Because I is smaller than A

GTX 1050 2GB or RX 460 4GB?

Depends, but I would say 2GB 1050 or 4GB 470

RX 480 4GB

470

Hey Sup Forums Im going to be getting a Dell optiplex as a base for my brothers gift. It has everything in it already(i5,HDD,fan,windows7) except a GPU (Which I checked and it can support the one I bought Sapphire7870) and a PSU(Which I am planning on buying a 430W). He mainly plays Total war games. Will this build satisfy?

But RX 470 is almost twice the price of those

pcpartpicker.com/list/PqCm2R
Should I get a second NF-A14 and run the CPU cooler in a push/pull setup?

How big does my power supply need to be?
>GTX 1060 6GB
>8GB DDR4
>i5 6500

Is 450w enough? Or should i go for a more powerfull one?

So I have a shitty FX 6300 that I'm ready to put to pasture. Should I wait for Ryzen or get an Intel mobo+cpu?

Excellent build m8. Adding a second fan in push/pull will give you like... 2°C or so, imho not worth the extra 20 bucks.

>i don't know what a PSU calculator is and i can't google it
I could tell you the answer but for fucks sake don't be a lazy prick. Go to be quiets website they have a good calculator.

My current rig is an i7 4770 with a gtx 1060 6gb

16gb ddr3

my psu is 480w, so I think you'll be alright

Let's see ...
GTX 1060 = 120 W
i5 6500 = 65 W
Motherboard + SSD/HDD + RAM = 25 W

Peak SUM = 210 W

A non-shitty 300 W power supply should be enough. If you want to have a safety margin get 400 W.

>Should I wait for Ryzen or get an Intel mobo+cpu?
You got the same problem as i do. I suggest you'll do what i do, if you get an insane deal on an Intel CPU (if you're from EU this can be bundled with Asus cashback), pull the trigger, otherwise it's better to wait for Zen.

It should be coming up Q1 2017 which gives me plenty of time to save some money.

Only the 8C/16T version from what i've heard. The other ones will be released later in Q2 or even Q3.

At least it's good for the price range?
How much longer will it last?
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131707

Please, How can I tell what the speed of this ram is?

It is 4gb ddr3 module obviously, but I don't know which of these things is supposed to tell me the speed?

>PC3-10600
In other words: DDR3-1333.

Thank you so much user, I legitimately didn't know

I was thinking 1600 mhz lol

Even if the RAM were faster or slower than the rest of your system RAM won't all of it just underclock to the lowest speed RAM?

No, 10600 is just the module name, see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM#JEDEC_standard_modules

Depends. It will either run at lower speeds or don't run at all. Also, please don't mismatch RAM, just don't.

Not going to be mismatching, have the other module right here with me

its going on ebay

How hard will my AMD Phenom II X4 960T BE bottleneck a GTX 1050?

Maybe where you live.
Over in the states the lowest priced 470 is 160/170, not as much as you think.

Hard.

Cheapest 470 is 200 euros here

Is it even worth upgrading from a 6790?

>i3-6100
>H110 mATX motherboard
>8GB of DDR4-2133 RAM
>240GB SSD
>maybe a 1TB HDD
>$40 case
>$50 semi-modular PSU
>a GTX 1060 6GB

Any updates on Zen and Vega? I'm planning an i7-6800K + GTX 1070 rig in pic related for the end of January. If AMD are going to deliver I might switch to a full AMD build

Since there's a couple i3 overclockers here, what's a safe package temperature, since the OC disables core temp?

Anyone?

Looks good. Don't know about the fan though. As long as it works.

I'd recomond a higher PSU desu.

>i7-6800k
for what purpose?

How the fuck are you going to fit it in that box?

Zen is supposedly shitting on Shekel Lake i7s but that's AMD's selected benchmarks

If you're asking about the cpu: Asrock X99E-ITX with a Dynatron T318 radiator + Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM fan. As for the graphics card, there's plenty of space for it.

Any ETA on it?

Gonna be noisy m8

Okay, so I just built this thing. How did I do?

Also there is a buzz coming from somewhere and I can't figure out where it's from, it's somewhere around the VRM area.

Why is your fan backwards?

Looked smaller on the picture, but imho this isn't a good idea. you won't be able to put a good cooler on the i7 and the combo of i7 + shit cooler + reference design 1070 is going to cook for good.

It's not. It's spinning, so you're seeing through.

Well if I push all cores to the max, probably but I don't plan on doing that all the time.

I agree that the cooling for the CPU will be less than ideal but it's about as good as I can fit in that case. Also I'm probably going to use a MSI Gaming X 1070, which does fit, not a reference design.

I bought a rx 480 and my asrock b75m-dgs r2.0 doesn't recognize it. I can't see on the bios, neither on speccy or GPU-z. I have the latest bios firmware and my old 7770 works just fine. Can i ship it back already? What else I can try?

I think the motherboard is compatible since in the site userbenchmark there is a lot of builds with 1070,1060, 470 and 480.

does the card have a bios switch? If so, you might have it set to the UEFI vbios

Yes, it is dual bios, it is a XFX RS. Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about, can you be more specific?

Finna pull the trigger on 1050 ti. Should i ?

i fucked up and bought something i didn't need. The glass panel on my 901 won't close because the pcb on my 290 only barely fits in the case. I payed close attention to all the dimensions before getting the case but i guess i didn't think about the extra length the pci-e connectors would add. Any of you guys know of any low profile extenders? All i can find are the ones on moddiy for $30 a piece.

What I'm saying is shut off your pc, flip that switch on your graphics card and see if that fixes your problem

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I'm not really sure about the motherboard and psu. Are there better options that would match the rest of the build more?

It doesn't work, unfortunately, I already tried to run in both states.

could be DOA then. Unless you have a second system to test in just RMA it.

Q1 2017

...

>6800k
>One inch passive heatsink
Just get a 6700k and Z170 and save yourself the imminent memes
If this build comes together as it look right now you're going to have a bad time with temps and noise

You SHOULDNT use and MSI card in that case, that's basically the one and only situation where a reference card will be better
I'm telling you, that 6800k and weak cooler is gonna be hot, and you want to add in all the gpus hot air too? Get a different CPU, a different chipset, and a blower card depending on whether you want worse GPU cooling or worse CPU cooling

No cant you see he's got a noctua to zip-tie to the CPU so he can't overheat at all

Why not a different case? This year I bought a Mastercase 5, and I'm absolutely in love. It's better than the actual pc inside.

What's the best number/size/position of case fans for maximum cooling in a standard size case?

Consider a locked quad core CPU and a B150 board
You're not gonna be able to overclock that 6800k worth a shit and you'll never ever SLI. So by switching to B150 you lose overclockable ram but gain at least $100 by switching parts

If you want a different case go ahead and get one, but from what I've seen, anybody seriously suggesting they need a dancase meme like that usually isn't willing to get a different case to have better performance

Cover every panel 100% in fans blowing outwards

While I'd generally agree, apparently the guy designing this has this shit figured out and has the airflow for the gpu and the cpu/mobo completely separated and apparently it results in pretty good temps

Well I'm looking at the 6800K for the cores not so much high clock speeds and lots of lanes. Nevertheless, I am considering switching to a Z170 + i7-6600K @ 4GHz combination for better temps

Hello Sup Forumsents.


Was on vacation last week and left the window open. Rained on the compy. Need to figure out what parts I need to replace. New CPU/mobo? Or is everything trashed.

Pic related is current condition of CPU

adding to that, is there any real-world difference between an overclocked 6600K vs a 6700K?

Would a 430 suffice though? He isnt into anything other than RTS games and totalwar.

take a pic of the socket without the cpu

almost certainly mobo,
plug hdds into other desktop to see if they still work
stick paperclip into psu to see if it still works

Hyperthreading
That is and has been the only difference between the 6700k and 6600k

I know, but does it actually make a meaningful difference in real-world usage (ex. gaymen, rendering, transcoding, etc.)

Looks good, but should have gone for i5 6500

Personally I'd leave room for a 300W gfx card, but if you know you're never getting that then it's fine

Wait

It's ok, not great. 2GB is on its way out, but for a weak card like that, it's fine

You have the PCIe 6-pin or 8-pin connected?

If you have a prebuilt with out a 6-pin, yes, otherwise get the 470

Rendering
Work programs
Etc.

Gaming doesn't mean much, unless the game takes advantage of the hyperthreading.

In some cases, it can hurt it.

Depends if your program of choice is a multithreaded monster that can take advantage of the extra threads. Generally games don't use more than 4 cores well, if even 4 cores at all, and don't benefit from hyperthreading. This could change with DX12 (a well multithreaded api) becoming bigger.
Most other high-demand programs are coded to use all the threads they can grab, so that's why the "i7 for productivity" meme is a thing
So yeah, you will see benefits, but it completely depends on the program, and games are usually not that kind of program

Roger that

Thanks guys, will probably go for an i7-6700K then.

if everythings dry and you cant see any obvious corrosion, you should be good for a test run when you replace the paste on that cpu

How good are Zotac cards compared to other brands?

B150 is the right chipset for Skylake locked CPUs right?

Zotac is a very good and reliable company, only downside is the usually higher power consumption on their AMP! cards compared to OC cards of other brands.

H110 - minimum, for i3 or if you can't afford more
B150 - usually everything you need
H170 - for SLI and extended features
Z170 - only if you OC

which chipset would support 2400MHz+ DDR4?

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This a good SSHD for the price?

Hey Sup Forums wondering if I should replace my cpu or gpu first.

Gpu: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series
Cpu: AMD Athlon (tm) x4 760K Quad Core Processor

Thanks for the help

you should replace all your computer first

Skylake only supports 2133 MHz DDR4 so you will need to OC which means you need Z170.

I need a single slot (can have two slot cooler) low profile gpu that would pair well with a 775 pentium 4 system
I know theres the msi 750ti but that would be bottlenecked as fuck by the cpu

Any pci power only cards that wouldnt be bottlenecked by something like that?
Really not looking for much more than a fun project, ricing shatever optiplex i can find on amazon for undet 60$

Z170, but don't think that ram speed is more important than a good deal

what kind of oc is usually needed for those kinds of frequencies?

Im looking at aomething like an r7 240 and upgrading the cpu to a pentium D ot old xeon if the mobo can accept it

2133mhz is stock speed ram.
To overclock ram you enable xmp in the bios.