Awesome WM 4.0

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Anyone tried it already?

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Why should I use this over i3? I'm at 270mb ram usage and 13 hours battery life. If it can top that, I'm in.

It's not as light as i3

I think I will finally upgrade and take the time to update all my scripts.

tried the upgrade to 3.5 before and a lot of stuff stopped working, was too lazy to bother at the time so I just went NOPE and masked >3.4.

But is i3 as customizable as Awesome?

I'm getting strange things with 4.0, like my urxvt is pink now.

How autistic are you? powertop reports
>3.68 mW 120.9 us/s
and the combined mem usage for Xorg+awesome is less than 200m

>Why should I use this over i3?
Generally much nicer UI and more powerful customization

Will I have to trash my current config and start over?

Probably, yes. But good news is dual monitor setup is recognized by default.

it recognizes it now as well, but there is a short less than a s delay when the wm reloads itself (the windows keep their tags but the selected layout for a given tag is forgotten)

...

>it recognizes it now as well
You mean 3.5.9?

bump

What's so great about awesome? Can you go keyboard only on i3 also?

>Can you go keyboard only on i3 also?
Definitely. Sometimes it is even easier not the use the mouse at all with it.
What actions do you usually do without mouse?

I might try it, how is awesome stability wise? Does it crash? I've been using dwm for over a year now and it hasnt crashed once...

>Does it crash?
Depends on what you mean by crashing.
I used it for almost 3 years and whenever I had a issue with it (not starting, reverting to default config, some parts of my custom setup not working) it was because I made mistakes in the config file, which is written in Lua BTW.

I've been using awesome for over ~4 years, no crashes, if that proves stability.

Ugh, Lua. Why?

>awesomewm.org/apidoc/documentation/89-NEWS.md.html
Thanks!
I've been going through and doc seems nice and detailed. I'm gonna give it a go i think.
Any tips or recommendations for newbie?

Great. I was tired of not having to redo my config.

Dunno why.
Maybe because it is easy? I'm no programmer, but I can modify my config file without much trouble.

>Any tips or recommendations for newbie?
Look up screenshots of different awesome ricing setups for inspiration.
Look up how to add widgets, they're nice.

>Any tips or recommendations for newbie?
If you already used a tiling WM then you just have to use this as you usually do. Maybe take a look at the widgets to see what you can keep from your old setup (not in terms of code, but of functionalities).
If you have never used a tiling WM then be sure to read this brief cheat sheet for the keybindings
cheatography.com/fievel/cheat-sheets/awesome-window-manager-3-x/

>tiling
If you don't like tiling you can just use it as a floating window manager with no problems, it's what I do.

it's trying to show you your awesome new disposition to being a trap

>no wayland support
ugh...

No, bspwm is better.

>bspwm is better
for me to poop on

I'm on a desktop with 2 screens, so I never really cared much about tiling.
Does this thing have any advantages over openbox? I'm sure this is lighter but for someone that wants floating how would this be beneficial?
I know openbox also has several GUI programs to quickly edit config files. Does awesome have anything similar or will I have to edit the files manually?

This. What's the point? Virtually all big window managers, like Metacity, KWin, Enlightment, etc., are already ported to Wayland. Even stuff like i3 and dwm have Wayland alternatives. Only Awesome is stuck with Xorg and will be soon deprecated.

What an unexpected Christmas present. I had to reinstall my system yesterday, didn't even install X yet. Been using awesome 3.5.9. Excited to try the new one now.

This is gonna be LEGEN... wait for it... DARY!

I am working on learning how to configure and stylize every common WM / DE out there. Awesome[wm] is my next project in this list.

Looking at the features Awesome provides, there's nothing that i3 can't be CONFIGURED to do.

>but for someone that wants floating how would this be beneficial?
I really see no advantage if you are going to use it just on floating mode. It might even turn to be a PITA since you have to press the Win-key to move the windows.

>Does awesome have anything similar or will I have to edit the files manually?
Awesome is configured through a config text file.

Tell me how this is different from openbox?

>there's nothing that i3 can't be CONFIGURED to do.
But does i3 have features that I can't get in awesome?

Exactly. WM selection makes no difference, aside from stock options/conf, and resource consumption.

Openbox had no tiling, right?

Can be configured to tile. All it takes is a simple script with configured hotkeys! Bash is a powerful language.

>Can be configured to tile.
Really? When I tried to used it I couldn't find anything about that, so I dropped it for Awesome.

I just now realized how much i love Xephyr...

What's the use in using a tool if you don't expend all possibilities with it — that tool being the Linux kernel + GNU?

Not the same user, but afaik awesome can only have window snapping, not full on tiling. I may be wrong though.

Any WM has tiling capability...

I'll write a universal script next month if nobody else decides to learn.

According to docs it is full tiling IIRC.

Does i3 have preset layouts. I prefer it over manually cutting windows in two.

You can design layouts with configuration. I'll describe how to do so once I'm off the bus

>I'll write a universal script next month if nobody else decides to learn.
How is that going to work? For any DE or just the most popular WMs?

I'm keyboard only on fucking xfce. Everything can be configured to be mouseless

I used to use awesome all the time. I switch between awesome and mate desktop environment. I can make windows tile side by side pretty easily in mate and thats mostly what I need.

Don't bother, there already exists pytyle.

Couldn't figure out how to install it desu ...
I downloaded everything, dpkg, it should be done, but I can't seem to be able to select it when logging in, or from the CL

I use debian with cinnamon (muffin wm), is there a step by step guide or anything to help me get on with it ?

>I use debian with cinnamon (muffin wm), is there a step by step guide or anything to help me get on with it ?
Do you login using a graphical display manager?
If so, there should be some menu where you can select you WM.

Yes I do that's why I checked, I hid every button there is and I can only select my DE (Cinnamon or Default), maybe I just failed the install (I had some ppa issues but I rectified them, so I don't know where it could come from).

hit* not hid

>tfw awesome 4 isn't in the sid repos yet

:(

>If you need to make sure, that Awesome is in you DM list. You can check xsession directory.
epsi-rns.github.io/desktop/2016/06/30/awesome-install-debian.html

How about this?

I had to make a custom ebuild for my gentoo system. Maybe wait a few days or compile it from source, the dependencies are almost the same.

I'll check that thanks

Is there a guide with all the basic functions and shortcuts of awesome ?

See >cheatography.com/fievel/cheat-sheets/awesome-window-manager-3-x/

For the functions you have to take a look at the documentation
awesomewm.org/apidoc/index.html

man awesome
or
cat

thanks man

How do I install awesome-4.0 on Ubuntu? Is it updated in the repos yet?

Going by what wrote you will probably have to compile it from the source.

wait till your repo of choice updates it

So I reinstalled it and as you can see on pic related it is in my xsessions list, but I can't select it when logging in (I tried rebooting), what did I miss ? Maybe some permission thing ?

What display manager are you using?

Probably using X bindings. xdotool

askubuntu.com/questions/332342/how-to-add-awesome-selection-in-lightdm

?

I just looked at the xsessions file and there was a line "nodisplay=true", changed it to false and it fixed it
it looks disgusting though, is there a nice guide to rice it a lil bit and adjust resolution ?

>is there a nice guide to rice it a lil bit and adjust resolution ?

Try to take a look at the old wiki
github.com/awesomeWM/awesome-www-backup-old/tree/gh-pages/wiki
it has a lot of custom rc.lua and good articles for the widgets.
Also lurk several forums/threads and take some code from there. It will take a bit to rice it like you want.

If you know how to write Lua you can take a look at >awesomewm.org/apidoc/index.html

>no wayland

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