To Windows 7 memesters

You have all the time in the world to explain why the spy services of 10 that might be forever hidden can't be also in windows 7. You also have all the time in the world to explain the difference between linux being incrementally updated and Microsoft doing incremental updates just the same and then just sticking a new label on it to sell it every couple of years. Have you noticed the Vista drivers still work on 10 and therefore even the kernel is similar for all these years?

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pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-windows-10-pushes-ads-at-you-and-how-to-stop-them.html
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>You have all the time in the world to explain why the spy services of 10 that might be forever hidden can't be also in windows 7
because who the fuck updates w7 when they backported all the botnet from 10

if you want botnet just install 10

Even from the start, you have no way of knowing 7 doesn't have hidden stuff, and in fact we had proof it had.

"7 being amazing" is a total meme.

>You also have all the time in the world to explain the difference between linux being incrementally updated and Microsoft doing incremental updates just the same and then just sticking a new label on it to sell it every couple of years.
Well, what is there to explain?
There isn't a ton of differences since NT 6.0 in the kernel, but stuff like onecore and the move from win32 has been reorganizing the entire architecture of the OS to something really modular and fast.

>Have you noticed the Vista drivers still work on 10 and therefore even the kernel is similar for all these years?
So close to getting a well-constructed English sentence there Pajeet.

5 cents in your account.

Yes it has great improvements. Which is why it's total retardation to respect 7 and not 10. Even if the meme about "botnet" held truth, they have no way of knowing that "botnet" didn't exist in 7 too, and in fact we know it partly did, and for any public services, they can be easily disabled by the user anyway.

There is no grammatical error in that sentence fatty.

In fact I even respect Vista. Sure, it was shit compared to later versions but only because it was older. e.g. A well setup 8.0 was clearly better than a 7.

>Pajeets still don't know how to use the word "the" properly
It's a tell-tale sign that gives you up every time

Trumpcuck, not all non-Burgers here are from Asia, so shove your racist ad hominems up your arse because you can't even define the geography of your empty hate.

wow, you sure showed me

If you aren't a burger you'r a britcuck, in any case you are a child that can't discuss on topic without ad hominems.

forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/01/19/microsoft-windows-10-creators-update-changes-ads/

Even if you get hit by the botnet and telemetry on 7, at least you won't be getting "promoted", "suggested", or "recommended" crap from MS to make them ad money like on 10.

betanews.com/2017/01/09/microsoft-ads-windows-10-creators-update/

pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-windows-10-pushes-ads-at-you-and-how-to-stop-them.html

>calls other people racist for making an assumption about where they're posting from
>does the exact same thing
>twice
kek, and another swing and a miss too.

But that's ok Pajeet

I use Linux 90% time. When I want to play "muh windows gayms" I boot into 7 because I don't want to bloat Linux with WINE and shit games and like Aero over flat UI. Also 7 is much faster to setup than 10 and you have to deal with far less shit.

>"7 being amazing" is a total meme
I agree but it's the least shitty one of all the shit available.

Don't be retarded. Those are publicly available services that can be disabled by the user. In some cases they are not even on by default.

It's embarrassing to hear such arguments in Sup Forums. You pretend to know what the fuck you are doing and you can't fucking disable a fucking service.

And if you attempt to claim there may be still hidden shit, the same goes for 7, which is the topic.

10 is extremely slim if you know what you are doing. There is a set of services and options you totally disable and it's fine. Only lazy idiots pretend 10 is bloatware.

Because i have the pirated pre-telemetry Windows 7 version with a 3rd party program that strictly analyzes ingoing/outgoing packets and where everything is sandboxed except online gayming since that's the only purpose of its existence.

Next stupid question you dumb faggot.

Bullshit. Every single Windows version out there since Vista can be slimmed down to excellent usability but most retards are incapable to do that job. I have literally gone through Vista, and 7, and 8.0 and 8.1 without any issue on that front while every single iteration I heard the crybabies talking about "bloat".

That's wasn't the question idiot.

They stopped caring about slimming the OS around Vista.
They actively worked against it in 8 and 8.1.
10 is a fucking shitstorm of an OS.

>10 is extremely slim if you know what you are doing.
Not even Microsoft knows what it is doing with its shitty operating system, registry, and code,
yet you want to act as if you or anyone else are even capable of knowing.
Get your head out of your ass. The shitfumes have muddled your brain.

What the fuck are you running? A 386 CPU on 512MB RAM? 10 is extremely slim if someone knows what the fuck he is doing with disabling services and other options that very publicly available to anyone with a brain.

e.g. I have 1GB RAM use + almost 0% CPU use when idle.

Whatever minor annoyances remain for the UI, it remains a retarded decision to stick to 7 as a general purpose solution, since simply Windows is incrementally updated on all other fronts.

e.g. Shittier DirectX, shittier utilities, shittier kernel the more you don't upgrade.

And in general it's mainly lazy idiots that can't make 10 work very cleanly.

>if someone knows what the fuck he is doing with disabling services and other options that very publicly available to anyone with a brain.
You mean like someone who knows updates break and change user set options and settings without notification, or even move them to different locations from time to time?

You know you have become a true autist when you have spent more time fiddling with services and options in Windows 10 than a Linuxfag does ricing their turd.
You fucking clown.

Bullshit. It takes literally less than 5 minutes to disable the botnet services and other botnet options. You must be super lazy.

>Shittier DirectX
Oh no. I'm not gonna have the new shitty DX12 that's only gonna see implementation in a fucking decade when developers finally re-do their whole fucking game engines to support it or build new ones! The DX12 that only shows positive graphs in a few games at the time they were still in unstable alpha/beta stage (Hitman being an example) where getting retarded software/hardware responses to unfinished code is a norm!
Oh woe me!

By the time that shit finally becomes relevant,
all new games will already be Linux compatible because that's what's happening as of late through Valve,
while most old games will become compatible through GoG's fervent 3rd party re-coding.
By that time only retards will use Windows 10.

Your argument is piss and shit.

>You have all the time in the world to explain why the spy services of 10 that might be forever hidden can't be also in windows 7.
firewall on router blocking M$
windows 7 SP1 with no further updates
done, no problems here
And linux does updates well because they don't have to fucking restart all the time, with Windows you have no choice since it is the way the OS is coded, it cannot be undone
also, the kernel isn't only similar, it is the exact same one + minor changes

>It takes literally less than 5 minutes
Yeah, if you need to lower yourself to use 3rd party software management because it seems every new Windows update requires more fucking 3rd party Russian crackhead coder shit running the background analyzing and controlling shit.

If you mean manually, prove it via webm you faggot.
I know you won't do it though, because you are too stupid to even do that, let alone understand what the fuck you are talking about.

You are a moron. 10 has faster responsiveness anyway. Retards are incapable to understand that it has an updated Kernel, it's just like Linux on that front, the entire system is upgraded and if you do not upgrade you are stuck to an older shittier Kernel too.

If I wanted to spend hours spending configuring my OS, I would just use Linux. Which I do.

>windows 7 SP1 with no further updates

You have no way of knowing that has no back doors. In fact, it was known to have them for years. So that argument is invalid and a total meme.

Prove to me W10 does not spy on me and that I can turn any and all telemetry off.

I'll wait.

Wtf. No 3rd party shit needed. Just find a good list of shitty services and open it.

Any Windows OS can be assumed to have backdoors.

Windows 7 does not datamine on my machine like 10

It's easier than you think. e.g. there are popular lists of spy or potentially unneeded services you can easily follow. And another minute to just disable the privacy options.

>You have no way of knowing that has no back doors.
>caring about backdoors on the consumer level
I'm not running a small business here. And the important shit is firewall on the router blocking EVERYTHING FROM MICROSHIT AND ITS AFFILIATES.

I can't. I never said I will. I said it's a meme to expect 7, even "SP1" to not have back doors.

Oh no, my gayming OS is stuck on an older kernel.
Whatever am i going to do with this 1 framerate
difference in muh gaymes and console ports!?

Kill yourself faggot. If your argument is older overall technology, then using Linux or MacOS is already beating your giant mass of shit and piss in your ignorant posts since Microshits precissely adopts their technology that's already old news by the time a new Windows update has come.

Oh yeah just like Linux now, have to copy paste commands that you have no idea what you are doing. And it doesn't ever give you full control over your OS, that's the horrible thing. Next update? Do the whole same thing over again.

10 doesn't do shit either if you disable the unneeded services and turn off the privacy options you don't need.

If it has back doors, so do older versions anyway, so it's out of the question.

This isn't about backdoors, it's about telemetry and spying on my data. You simply have more control, and more privacy on Windows 7.

>all new games will already be Linux compatible because that's what's happening as of late through Valve,

You think valve is going to go around and make every single new pc game compatible with linux? That's not going to happen. Linux is a small part of the market, and developers don't think it's worth the money to cater to that minority.

You don't know if that's enough, e.g. your simple torrent client goes through such a router on any port, but I generally agree, I don't find windows a security issue for a regular person.

>Have you noticed the Vista drivers still work on 10 and therefore even the kernel is similar for all these years?
>hahaha ur drivers work lmao wat losers not even taking 3 weeks to get wifi working
holy lel!

You triggering shows your cognitive dissonance. You know you are wrong but you hide it behind anger. Busted.

It is enough, because I don't torrent like a pleb.
Fuck wasting my bandwidth on that shit.

>explain why the spy services of 10 that might be forever hidden can't be also in windows 7

because I blocked the updates that contained them and their absence can be verified by network inspection tools like wireshark

You can never turn it off, only set it to minimal. You have no idea what it's sending back anyway, it's all encrypted. You can never claim that MS isn't up in your shit sending it back to the NSA or whoever. It's encrypted.

Vulkan is a thing and so is virt-manager

Nah, Microsoft isn't as shit as Linux at that. If you set up disabled services well it will take 1-2 years to have at most 1-2 extra services they added that might not be needed.

>disable the unneeded services
not permitted
>turn off the privacy options
these options reset themselves

>You think valve is going to go around and make every single new pc game compatible with linux?

You mean like how Microsoft did in the late 90's when they had a developer support department and actually paid game developers to develop for Windows and the PC market as a whole,
while the PC gaming market was even smaller compared to consoles than Linux is compared to Windows?

People sure easily forget history when they are about to fart a pile of intellectual feces out their mouths.

It took years for Microsoft, and it will take years for Valve. The point is that they are one of the many parties pushing developers towards that direction just like Microshit did during the 90's in its grand "benevolent" promotion rush.

You can disable telemetry. Those are publicly listed services without a restriction to be disabled. I don't get why the memesters make a deal out of them.

Are they so lazy?

I still can't find a reason to use it.

/facepalm. We know Microsoft had backdoors on Windows for several years, predating 7.

>Have you noticed the Vista drivers still work on 10 and therefore even the kernel is similar for all these years?

since Vista the kernel didn´t get any major updates
that is why till 8.1 the version was 6.X
now in 10 they changed it to 10.X but that is obviously just a cosmetic change and windows 10 is just 6.4

Can you really? How do you know that? Have you inspected the encrypted packets? You aren't so lazy you didn't inspect encrypted packets are you?

I know Microsoft can't be totally trusted. My argument is that it's a stupid meme to trust 7.

One thing Windows 7 had going for it is it at least had consistency with the UI. Microshill doesn't know how they want the UI to look in Botware 10. There's like 3 or 4 different UI's the right click contextual menu uses. Please fucking pick one, Microsuck. That's probably the main reason I finally said fuck off, and switched to Linux. I got sick of nothing being uniform and matching.

You can only disable the registry if you have Enterprise or use registry hacks. There's literally no valid justification for Microsoft to do that.

The default setting is also completely insane; it lets Microsoft look at your personal files. We know that we should change that setting, but ordinary users don't.

There's already a ton of Linux compatible games on Steam. It won't take years at this rate.

BS, I can disable literally 100% of what I had to disable. The only services that can't be disabled are needed by the user 99% of the time because they are basic system needs like networking or audio.

>/facepalm.
Get out or lurk more.

Fuck off with your strawmen and moving the goalposts.
I have more control over my old ass Windows 7 than Windows 10. There is no reason whatsoever for me to install Windows 10.

Can you really? How do you know that for sure?

I agree but to be honest it's totally exaggerated. I run - just like 99.9% of people - the same 3-4 applications in the same month nonstop. I don't really give a shit if the UI that launches them isn't totally perfect.

mainly OCD idiots claim that it matters so much the launching method of their software.

Where are you from?

What the fuck are you talking about retard? The very title of the thread had that point, that if 10 is so insecure, so is 7, it's not a linux vs windows discussion.

No, Don't have to install the backported telemetry bullshit into 7. I don't have to update it at all. It dosent send all that bullshit back to MS.

don't be lazy then and disable it.

Look at how he formats his replies and that should tell you everything. He's not from around here.

The faggot's next argument is going to claim windows 7 has backdoors.

I really can't find a reason to upgrade. Nothing. It's all bullshit. A scam.

They should just let us customize 7 and it would be pretty perfect.

wasn´t there recently a change on enterprise
wherein the previous off is now minimal?

Prove it.

not pajeet, can't see the problem
t. 中國人

wait fuck

where do i find the list of services to turn off?

thanks, aditya

>falling for bait on Sup Forums

POO

Lmao Microsoft made it 'snappier' but take a look in resource monitor.

which ones do I disable?

Win 10 is loaded with mandatory spyware and it has to be forcefully ripped out. The sad thing is that you need at least win 10 pro to fully clean it out. Stuff like group policy is effective for stopping otherwise unstoppable crap like windows defender and telemetry. I use win 10 pro half the time because I need it for certain applications, but if I could I would be all linux. I still don't connect to the internet often because as soon as you do a flood of services come like google updater and many more. And even at that, the windows os is deep and mysterious and you have no idea what else is running in the backround and nor does microsoft

kusoge

>You also have all the time in the world to explain the difference between linux being incrementally updated and Microsoft doing incremental updates just the same and then just sticking a new label on it to sell it every couple of years.
Linux doesn't hijack your computer for 20 minutes to install updates without your consent. And you're still able to find and install older versions of Linux if you don't like what the latest versions are doing. Microsoft is doing everything in their power to prevent users from doing that.

>implying only Trump-supporting racists use the pajeet meme
I support Hillary and Bernie, believe we should avoid needlessly destroying the environment even if evidence DOES come out that global warming is a hoax, believe white privilege and rape culture are two of the biggest problems facing the west, support multiculturalism, and identify as queer, a feminist, and a socialist, and even I call obvious Microsoft shills pajeets.

No, it's that you're just wasting all your racism on other white people on this swedish yodellers collective

Even XP is bloated compared to modern Linux distributions, 7 is worse, and 10 is even worse than that.

Why go through all that work when you can just get an OS that doesn't have all those unwanted serves and you could instead be using your time to customize the UI to your needs, or installing software you actually want.

>lel Microsoft was totally looking out for me back then. They've just changed.

Wow great argument fagtron, you sure convinced us with those hot opinions of yours.

>Vista drivers work on 10
Fool, Vista drivers don't even work on Windows 7.

Even Windows 7 drivers don't work on Windows 7.

>believing the stories of Sup Forums users
You have to go back

I don't like faggots who deliberately try to manipulate me or my system. The end.

>國

>Have you noticed the Vista drivers still work on 10 and therefore even the kernel is similar for all these years?
Wrong. Try an older AMD driver, won't work correctly on 8 and 10.

>there are no MS shills here

rbt.asia/g/thread/S52217894

>believe white privilege and rape culture are two of the biggest problems facing the west

Interesting. I'd say religion is the biggest problem facing the west. And i don't mean the old religions like Christianity and Islam.
I mean the identity religion since you have become a parody of the two aforementioned collectives. I call it Snowflakeism.
A mass of dumb idiots with too much free time on their hands, yet too little education and involvement in jobs that are tangibly productive for society in economic and industrial terms.
Leeches in other words, who input more than they output.