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that feel when you've been waiting for months for arch to break so you can have an excuse to distro hop but it's still going strong
Daniel Davis
install gentoo
Xavier Hughes
im running arch btw
Camden Martin
old thread:
Jonathan Evans
My Manjaro just broke so I'm going to Ubuntu MATE. Just need my files first.
Joshua Gomez
I'm trying out i3, but I'm on Fedora 25 with Gnome. I can't shake the feeling that it's more complicated than necessary this way, as GDM is more or less required to start Gnome with Wayland, but it doesn't seem to mind my .xinitrc while starting an i3 session. I want to keep both sessions, though.
Has anyone else been in this situation? Is it doable to use i3 and Gnome with GDM, or is it too much work? Any tips towards settting up config files would be greatly appreciated.
Dominic Garcia
why doesnt distros like ubuntu or something else common get support
Nathaniel Williams
>steam shills Linux on their website >it's a total pain to get steam to work on anything other than Ubuntu and even that has more problems than windows
Easton Wilson
Speaking of steam can anyone suggest how to fix this? >SSD and HDD >Windows 10 and Linux both installed on SSD (home isnt separate, debian) >Create ext4 partition on hard drive aside nfts windows partition >Steam won't let me add a games folder because it thinks the drive is read only
Owen Johnson
>Wayland is still in a bad state, from a security standpoint it is generally advised to use OpenBSD/MacOS/Windows currently. I find it quite astounding that GNU/Linux has become known as a secure OS when the xserver vulnerabilities have been around for 10+ years.
Jayden Russell
>tfw to intelligent to use Linux
Mason White
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Chase Morales
this
Tyler Murphy
Any thoughts on Solus?
Nicholas Sullivan
then do not run x
Luis Gonzalez
Not a fan.
Tyler Jenkins
So the majority of WM/DE's
Gabriel Richardson
He has refering to the kernel you twat.
Carson King
>He >you
Adrian Johnson
Running BSD feels good, huh?
Ryder Stewart
no none of them
Samuel Taylor
When I'm watching internet videos on the Midori or Surf browser the volume varies a lot, some videos volume are very low others are normal. I can use the volume control (pavucontrol) to increase the volume but it goes back if I pause or seek the video. Can anybody help? It's a really annoying issue.
Jeremiah Bennett
Tried the "lock" checkbox?
Leo Bennett
Guys, hold me.
>be me >buy second hand laptop for a $200 >install ubuntu 16.10 to lube up my entry into Linux >notice that I'm using Intel graphics instead of nvidia gt 540m >decide to change this >install proprietary Nvidia drivers >all is well >switch to nvidia binaries instead of Nouveau >boot up Borderlands 2 >immediate crash >figure I need to reboot to get things working smoothly >choose Ubuntu from GRUB >graphical glitch errywhere >looks like when Strongbad's screen melts from the 400,000 viruses >can't log in >recovery mode doesn't work either, just get a log in loop >forced to use Windows 10 until I go back to see my girlfriend because I'm staying at my dad's at the moment and didn't bring the live USB with me and can't justify buying a new drive just for that
Oliver Gray
GNU/Linux*
Isaac Morris
use windows as gaming console gnu/linux for serious computing
or set up a gpu passthrough and run windows in a vm
Mason King
if everything worked, why the switch to the proprietary driver?
Ryder Rogers
Go to ask ubuntu
James Mitchell
*holds you* It hurts just in the beginning.
Xavier Hernandez
Before my distro moved to libinput, was able to configure my trackball to simulate a scroll wheel by holding my middle click button.
Is there a way to achieve the same effect with libunput?
Jacob Lewis
What's the best way to swich capslock to esc?
James Bell
setxkbmap
James Ramirez
excuse me, I meant Xmodmap
Michael Mitchell
Will this work instantly (so I could toggle it) or do I need to restart X?
Isaac Martinez
it's instant, I believe.
Blake Bennett
Will try, thanks.
Juan Johnson
WHY
Elijah Myers
Anyone here use LXC? Share your experiences, no matter how small
Jeremiah Hernandez
what do people even use caps lock for? I don't get why it has such an honored position on a keyboard.
Kevin Walker
This is how the keyboard of the vi developer looks like.
Alexander Russell
IT HELPS EXPRESSING MY EMOTIONS ON THE INTERNET
Joshua Lewis
now all makes sense
Chase Robinson
GPU Passthrough if you can.
I've had the same issues with the dual booting dilemma and after buying new hardware just for the passthrough (my previous CPU didn't support VT-d) I can safely say that it solved every problem I had with Linux' software compatibility. Don't get me wrong, Wine is good and all, but having a 5 second bootup VM that plays the newest of games out of the box and can use Visual Studio while Linux can take care of every single other task is amazing. I actually tested the FPS difference between bare metal and the VM and it's about 3-5FPS maximum difference.
It'll take you a little time to set up, however once you have it you'll love it. It's pretty much a "once set up, forever set up" thing as well as your VM config can be copied over and the procedure is pretty much identical on all distros.
You most likely don't need to buy anything as long as your CPU and motherboard supports VT-d, or if you don't have a Xenos or X99 chipset CPU. Personally I have a 5820K, so I needed to use another dedicated GPU (an old 660 I had laying around), but the GPU that is integrated on your CPU is more than enough unless you're doing heavy video watching in Linux (mpv with hardcore configs).
The only problem you might encounter really is the sound due to DPC latency. Which can be a pain in the ass. Personally it worked out of the box for me using libvirt and CPU pinning, though depending on your CPU you might get sound issues that need troubleshooting.
The Arch Wiki has a really fucking nice readup in their "PCI Passthrough via OVMF" article which goes step by step how to enable it on Arch (the procedure is very similar to other distros. The difference being mkinitcpio.)
Christian Phillips
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Lincoln Reed
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Justin Murphy
There isnt a lock checkbox. there's a "lock chanels together" button but it doesn't help.
Landon Smith
My debian install is suddenly getting stuck on boot. The only thing I recently did was fiddle with fstab. Verbose nosplash shows it getting stuck around "systemd started create static device nodes in /Dev". It sometimes gets five lines below that, but it always freezes about there. I had a similar problem when I first installed it that got fixed by unplugging my 970 from the pcie port. I installed the NVIDIA proprietary drivers and then didn't have any problems until today.
Daniel Rivera
Is remix os a good idea for sitting room laptop? I tried it live, it doesn't feel like a "real" os but I'm not sure..
Also what are the alternatives for 'sitting room laptop' bear in mind that my mom will also use it for browsing etc. But I don't want anything that looks like windows.
Joshua Perry
too*
John Parker
Install xubuntu
Anthony Baker
remix os is chinese spyware
Gavin Murphy
post fstab
Christopher Cox
You can choose i3 when you login via gdm
Gavin Long
looking for a more colorful distro, may try to theme it though
Jace Powell
>unironically types each space for indentation
loving every laugh
James Parker
How can I code C# in Linux ? I feel cucked now in Windows 10 cause it deleted my files without permission.
I am angry now and Ignore all this stuff about win 10 cause I tought it was only a meme.
Hunter Foster
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Aiden Davis
what about deepin os [[chinese]] and cub linux?
Brody Garcia
> its glorious software developed by our comrades that guides and protects us from ourselves
Aiden Long
The amount of shit that comes with standard KDe installs I don't even. Do the people who put these together not understand they are including 3 different calculators?
Camden Cruz
Look at Mono.
Daniel Taylor
install gentoo
Carson Flores
>seriously using KDE
John Long
> C# on Linux
Well, you can use a C# stack with either: > Mono or C# core > and using MonoDevelop/JetBrains Rider/whatever the msvs version that's coming to Linux is called.
- or, and this might be the controversial opinion -
> Java 8 or newer with IntelliJ/Eclipse IDEs, and a modern toolstack with Maven, JUnit, Lombok (gets you properties, val keyword, and a lot of boilerplate gets removed through the magic of compiler macros and annotations. (Annotations in Java are @Annotation and not [Annotation], so I'm sure you'll pick it up just fine)), and you'll have a comfy af setup regardless. If you don't need to use C#, then that's probably a better solution long term.
Those are pretty much your options. C# and Java are similar but different though, so be prepared to get annoyed as everything is done SLIGHTLY different. (I know that's how I feel when I write C# stuff). You also have to go figure out what libraries and frameworks you want to go with. (jOOQ? pure java.sql stuff? some other framework?)
Modern java is very different from Java 10 years ago, and the support on Linux platforms is pretty fucking great.
Zachary Miller
liri OS
Nicholas Sanchez
I am coding in Java too and java is not a problem.
It is just hard if you do C# that you can't leave Windows environment at all.
Justin Hernandez
I don't have balls to let my mom use something in alpha stage, thanks.
Chase Thomas
kek
James Butler
>last thread 404 before new thread >this thread is page 8 now is gnu/linux dead?
Jacob Thompson
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Joshua Evans
Sup Forums is dead.
Isaiah Lee
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
Jason Perez
y so mad tho senpai. Linux will always be Linux. GNU will always be GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
There is no need for this forced nonsense, "gnu/Linux". RMS has contributed NOTHING else in the past 30 years,he is grasping for any recognition,instead of actually contributing to something benifical so he is FORCING his shit where it isnt needed. Its Linux
Cooper Evans
Any that's where you're wrong. Anything the FSF has contributed to Linux is not a vital part of the OS. It just runs on Linux. You wouldn't call it Libre Office/Linux just because the OS comes pre installed with Libre Office.
Jaxson Evans
Not sure if you're trolling or actually stupid.
Carter Price
Libre Office is not an OS
Daniel Ortiz
In pacman how do I simulate or see what packages will be upgraded?
Aaron Morgan
arch isn't for pussies
Jace Hernandez
>Using unstable bleeding edge makes me a l33t professional
I don't fully understand this error message and want to know how to fix it so I can make and make install GNU IceCat 45.5.1 (there seemed to be no precompiled ./icecat file)
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
I know obviously it's looking for gconf-2.0, but whenever whenever I try to do
sudo apt-get install gconf-2.0 it tells me that I already have it apparently
If I have a separate partition for my home directory, will the dot files fuck up anything if I decide to change distros?
Luke Morris
Some conflict maybe but nothing serious.
Owen Watson
there may be some minor incompatibilities, but nothing you can't fix by simply deleting the offending config file
Logan Phillips
Why is it cool to hate pulseaudio?
Jason Hill
it's a dank meme
Jeremiah Jones
>girlfriend cuck
Jaxon Fisher
PulseAudio is pretty good, most people just never bother to read up on how to configure it if something doesn't work out of the box. For example setting default sink and sources, how it relates to the underlying ALSA system etc. and then cry about how PulseAudio is broken and ALSA was better. Which is retarded.
Michael Morgan
>be me Kill yourself redditor cancer, stopped reading there.
Gavin Lee
I'm pretty sure that greentext stories starting with ">be me" are a Sup Forums thing
Juan Smith
Most people wouldn't even need it. Plain Alsa works ok, I don't get why this is shipped as a default, since you pull in more dependencies. But yeah, distros.
Oliver Smith
It was, but only people who use >be me these days are people from facebook or reddit because that's what they see in their greentext stories they post everywhere.
Jaxson Martin
Correct me if I'm wrong (really), but isn't multiple sound sources a problem with an ALSA-only setup? As in two applications wanting to stream/write to the same source at the same time? Pretty sure you get a "device is busy" then.
Robert Gray
>$CURRENT YEAR >having a girlfriend kek
Andrew Davis
To add to this: Which is AFAIK one of the big problems PulseAudio is solving.
Christopher White
Charles Roberts
idiots hate pulse because it's made by the same guy who made systemd
