Reminder that if you're on the market for a used Thinkpad and you don't consider the thinkpad of Macbooks, you're doing it wrong.
Macbook Pro non-Retina mid-2012 >thick >nice, high quality aluminium construction >good battery life >has proper Ethernet >has USB 3.0 >magsafe >> any other power connector >can upgrade ram >can install second drive >easy to repair (relatively) >divine trackpad (said as a long-time trackpoint user, mind you) >good keyboard >display looks better >can run Windows natively (and I guess Linux if you're into that) >cheap enough nowadays
No other macbook is worth considering (expect maybe Air if you want an ultrabook), but this is.
Gabriel Wilson
>1280x800 lolno
Hudson Walker
1600x900 is a better resolution, but the viewing angles are worse. Also 16/10 aspect ratio is better on laptops.
Cooper Torres
yeah but 800p? i'd go for a late 2013 rMBP with 8gb ram and 256GB SSD as minimum. Macbooks with 4gb of ram and 128 of storage are a scam.
David Nguyen
I have a mid-2012 Macbook Pro with an i7 and I fucking love it. Just got an x230 tablet with an i7. Even with 16gb and an SSD in the Thinkpad, it just can't run with the mac. Battery life is fucking amazing in the Macbook Pro as well.
Jason Kelly
With the Retinas, you can't change the ram at all. And the late-2013 model even has a proprietary pcie ssd as far as I know. Nobody who's considering a Thinkpad would ever buy something like that.
The point of the mid-2012 non-retina is that you can buy it cheap and put in the ram and ssd you need.
Oliver Hughes
how much are these? 13" and 15"
Chase Rivera
My 13", about two years old and in mint condition cost 500 eurobux
Aiden Harris
>"retina"
Noah Morales
>buying a 5 year old laptop without a replaceable battery
Sebastian Howard
They were in production up to late 2016.
Isaac Baker
at the cost of a shitty display
James Robinson
If you can get a 15 inch with the 1650 × 1050 than its decent. But 800p and 900p just look awful.
t. Owned a 15 inch 2012 MBP 900p non retina.
Aaron King
>800mhz piece of shit
Isaiah Ross
dunno... looks fine to me
But then I've never used Retinas so maybe they're magical and I just don't know it
Try reading the OP next time
Jackson Jackson
>t. mactoddler
Kevin Roberts
I have a mbp older than this and it is still my only laptop. I have a recent desktop, but I only use the laptop for the web and typing at uni, so it is fine.
Jace Ward
mhz piece of shit And it's the only computing device that does it.
Gabriel Clark
Burning your nuts you forget to put Magsafe is annoying 60$ mer charger its sucks So fragile charger
Angel Adams
1280x800 at 13.3" is a fine resolution.
Samuel Moore
Diving in an apple related thread because fuck it.
If you are just in the market for a laptop with high build quality ad high portability, which of the following two options is better:
Current 13" Macbook Pro with touch bar 2015 15" Macbook Pro
Both have their pros and cons, both are within my budget, struggling to decide. Any current Macbook owners got any opinions on this?
Lucas Bailey
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Jayden Cook
>cheap enough Thanks for putting a price tag on it.
Alexander Long
Let's be fair, ain't nobody in their right mind buying a macbook new.
Kevin Roberts
still far more expensive than a comparable thinkpad, Apple products hold their value unlike anything else
Owen Anderson
That's what I'm rocking. Good advice OP. Love mine, and it has plenty of life left.
Adrian Morris
Nothing wrong with the 2012 Macbook Pro if you find a good refurb/used at a good price. Problem is they're pricey as fuck. A T430 is usually much cheaper and the overall quality is nearly identical save for the aesthetic.
Evan Sanders
The display looks finer than any other ThinkPad shit, also 800p vs 900p isn't that big of a deal when the display itself is so much better.
Luke Hill
>without a replaceable battery Are you, sorry to say, retarded?
Oliver Ramirez
not that guy, but good luck trying to find a replacement that isnt a piece of shit. all of the 'genuine' ones you buy are $50 knockoffs that will last 1 month before not being able to hold a charge.
i have a 2011 mbp, my battery has 1100 cycles on it and now only lasts about 4 hours. i cant find a replacement for it that is even worth $50.
not to mention, my dedicated gpu is now failing so the thing will randomly hard lock up and then it wont turn on unless i let it sit for hours for the battery to drain, or take the bottom off and pull the plug to drain the cmos.
David Richardson
I get them directly from Apple. It's still a supported laptop. I have a few as backup if I need to change, usually once a year.
>2011 mbp >my dedicated gpu is now failing Found your problem. Also this thread is about the 2012 13" one, the 2011 13" one also didn't have GPU problems, because it lacked a dedicated GPU. It's your fault for being retarded, we are talking about a good laptop not "hurr Applel is great buy everything Applel, all their shit is gr8"
Jayden Brown
Well, if you're really going to cheap out on something you use daily and want to work, be reliable and fast, then I can't help you.
James Anderson
>A good laptop
It's one fucking year later you dip. And no, you are not getting them directly from Apple. If you are, you are just as retarded for paying whatever ridiculous price they are offering.
Nice try shill.
Anthony Sanders
>It's just one year later, friend
They made it so good, the mid-2012 13" was only discontinued Oct 27, 2016. (I'm assuming that's what you were referring to)
Jose Robinson
Can I upgrade the RAM and replace the cells in the battery without needing to flash the BIOS?
Aiden Scott
No Mac has ever had a BIOS.
Bentley Lewis
Okay, now answer the question
Colton Morales
>I upgrade the RAM Yes
>replace the cells in the battery If you are savvy enough, the cells inside the battery are actually just flat cells that you can replace with chink ones.
>flash the BIOS MacBooks like other Macs have EFI, something you can do without crippling the computer is to remove the Intel Management Engine without any ill effect.
Samuel Wilson
Upgrading the ram is just like any pc
Changing the cells in the battery? No idea
Jeremiah King
It shouldn't need answering, but yes.
Aiden Thomas
Can I do all this for 300 bucks USD
Hudson Ramirez
>but good luck trying to find a replacement that isnt a piece of shit.
>find a recent 2012 MBP 13" for cheap >change the battery for the cheap chink one >put it back on sale for slightly higher price >it will sell anyways and you have almost a new battery >profit
Seriously, nexto shit ThinkPad fags do, this is nothing.
Samuel Wright
Lets hope the thin meme dies and we can get decent laptops with integrated GPUs