>PRIVATE AND SECURE. Everything you send on Wire is end-to-end encrypted. >NO PROFILING. Wire cannot read your messages, and does not share or sell your data or contact details to anyone. >PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL. Register with phone number on mobile, or with email on desktop, then log in with the same account on mobile. >OPEN SOURCE. Anyone can verify the security of Wire by auditing the code available on GitHub. >MOBILE, TABLET, DESKTOP. Chats are always in sync and you don’t need your phone to log in on desktop. >GROUPS. Wire is great for private and secure group conversations with up to 128 people. >TIMED MESSAGES. Control how long others see your messages, pictures, videos. >DELETE. Posted something to a wrong chat by accident? No problem, delete it from all receiving devices. >VOICE AND VIDEO CALLS. Crystal clear quality, developed by the original audio team from Skype. >GROUP CALLS. Add up to 10 people and enjoy the virtual stereo effect (with headphones) to help you understand who’s talking. >AUDIO AND VIDEO MESSAGES. Record and send, or choose a clip from your device. There are even fun audio filters to modify your voice. >GIFS AND SKETCHES. Send a funny GIF or sketch with your finger (try also sketch-on-photo) to send a unique reply. >FILE SHARING. Securely transfer any file from your device, or from cloud services like Google Drive or Dropbox. >LOCATION SHARING. Meeting up or giving instructions is easy – just share your current location. >VIDEOS AND MUSIC. Share a Youtube, Spotify, Vimeo or SoundCloud link in a chat and others can play it without leaving Wire. >LINK PREVIEWS. Share any web link and we will automatically show the page title and a photo from the page (if available).
Discord is unadulterated cancer. Everyone raids other rooms to spam invite links because it's a popularity contest. Most users are borderline mentally retarded. or just normalfags. Rarely can you ever get an answer to a question because ever ones too busy posting emotes and 'dank memes'. Only good thing there is the image upload. But you know that comes at the cost of all of your user data. Least with imgur I'm leaching bandwidth, and no more unless I use their forums.
Jordan Wood
your really dumb
Bentley Robinson
Get fucked. If others click imigur embeds without a sanitized connection they don't deserve their privacy.
Jackson Stewart
Sounds good to me.
Jeremiah James
I use VKontakte and Skype (:
>discord Garbage
Jose Clark
I use it too For the CP and porn
Hunter Brown
Am i the only one who still uses Kik?
Elijah Torres
yes it doesn't have any features
Jaxson Smith
xD now back to Sup Forums
Ayden Bailey
ITT : autistic GNU/NEETs who do not understand The Network Effect.
Samuel Wilson
I just use it for texting. It doesn't need any fancy features. It did recently add video chats, but i never use it.
what is wrong with xmpp? cock.li gives you an email address AND xmpp address under the same alias for all your shitposting needs. if you want public rooms, pick a conference server of your choice.
Ian Baker
>i2pbote
wat
Robert White
>Kik?
garbage
John Flores
...
Brayden Cox
Looks really good desu.
Christopher Ward
>everything is autism
Daniel James
...
Grayson Rivera
Skype runs like hot garbage though.
Desktop app for Wire is pretty good compared to Skype. Syncs between phone and desktop well enough. It's basically what Hangouts and Skype should have been without the botnet and aids. I'm surprised people even bother with Signal since it's hitched to botnet and requires that cancer to run. Supposedly it will run with microg.org/ the Google Framework replacement that's FOSS.
Zachary Anderson
>free >no ads >full privacy
How the fuck do they make money?
Carter Wood
It's a honeypot
Carson Jones
Kik is what children use. Adults that use kik mainly use it to entice children for nefarious purposes.
Camden Perez
Because the massive amount of shilling on Sup Forums makes me suspicious. I bet this shit is a honeypot.
John Ward
>nobody uses it
Forgot that OP.
Logan Foster
OP is either autistic or a shill
Jacob Sullivan
I doubt they make any money tbqh. Seems to be the trend with all the mobile or "apps" these days. Look at Twatter. Hell even Facebook isn't profitable as they have to lie to scam money for ads. Amazon didn't even hit projections and they actually sell shit. Took them years to even break even.
Oliver Butler
>Because the massive amount of shilling on Sup Forums makes me suspicious.
Sup Forums shills everything privacy-related you dumbass.
So are you suspicious of everything privacy related now?
Andrew Thompson
I'd think it's more of a counter shilling attempt since Wire covers your bases on PC or mobile and offers encryption and is even Open Source. Enemies would be Google, Microsoft, Governments, and just about everyone that skims your data including the Chinese. Makes sense. Try to label it as a honeypot here on 4chinz and other boards to prevent adoption. Big money on the other side.
Ryan Watson
Hit me up @xum
Matthew Sanders
Thanks for the tip. Uninstalling Signal now.
Kayden Gray
They've stated they plan on moving to subscription fee once evolved
Ryder Rodriguez
>WHY? because you're an obnoxious fucking shill, and nobody uses it. I don't like skype, but I used it because my retard friends did. I don't like memebook, but I use it for IM because my retard friends do.
If I could I'd even ditch having a cell phone but fuckin NOOOO that's the only way anybody ever fucking contacts you now. Text messages or fucking facebook.
Ryan Diaz
Can somebody tell me what this is?
Elijah Adams
You could correspond through only the post
Jaxon Bennett
because all my friends use telegram and i'm not cool enough to convince everyone to use wire
Oliver Hughes
I know the feeling. I ditched Discord and Fagbook, and basically cut ties with the only people I talked to. I'll probably ditch my phone, or at least downgrade to something that can run Replicant for emergencies.
Dominic Bailey
Kind of suspicious you are shilling wire.
Matthew King
>calls OP a shill >tells people to use Facebook
Fuck off, Jew.
Benjamin Morgan
If they ever decide to put it on f-droid, maybe I'll give it a try.
Sebastian Ward
You are gay
Landon Powell
I'm still trying to work up the nerve. There's basically only two people I talk to through kikebook but they're also the ones I talk to the most, and I'm hesitant to lose that.
I'm not telling anybody to use anything, dipshit. Learn to read.
Cameron Hall
Your conclusion was text messages or Jewbook.
Jason Foster
>Am i the only one who still uses Kik? are you in high school?
kik is a garbage messenger, you should be embarrassed to browse Sup Forums while using that shit
Christian Ortiz
My conclusion was nothing, you doughboy. I don't use Wire because nobody else does, and I went on to explain why I begrudgingly use things I hate instead because people DO use them.
>Why don't you ride this bicycle user? No it shouldn't matter it doesn't have any wheels. Why would you want wheels? Look at all the gears it has!
Jaxson Hernandez
Tox
Liam Lopez
I already use Wire.
Ryder Gray
>shill for open source the only autist here is you
Camden Rogers
that all channels you have in discord are full of shit, says more about you than of the program.
Jason Russell
>What autism are you going to use to make excuses out of using this app that fulfills every one of our requirements? How about my friends don't use it?
It's either Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp. Do I like having those on my phone? No. Do I have a choice? Also no. But what can you do.
Tyler Roberts
Whats most interesting to me regarding wire, was that you could choose your own server for storing your logs and contacts. Do you think people would be interested in a home server that offers cloud functionality, email and chat, while storing most relevant data on a drive you can physically access?
Landon Evans
no
Cooper Taylor
So what do they gain from providing this apps? There's no way they do it for free right?
Gavin Parker
It's free now and then they add paid features later. You think people would join a paid messenger in droves?
Cameron Richardson
Fair enough.
Joseph Hughes
I mean, why wasn't it obvious to you in the first place? Every other IM service starts out as free to attract users and then they slowly monetize it later once they are locked in.
Luis Rogers
So how do I run a open sauce server like with xmpp?
Evan Gutierrez
You can't do it yet, but the server code will be open sourced this year according to the devs.
Logan Flores
>How the fuck do they make money? just like telegram, they are supported by some donor who is sympathetic to internet privacy
Xavier Ortiz
He was pointing out how cancerous the userbase is. Sure, it's fine between friends. But with competing ideas/fanbases, forget about it
Joseph Gonzalez
>wire is Sup Forums approved I don't recall approving this.
Jonathan Wood
>I don't recall approving this. you aren't Sup Forums. I am.
Owen Collins
signal has everything on there except the group and video calls though this is biased af
Gabriel Thomas
You're not me, I am.
Mason Hill
>my friends don't use it >Do I have a choice? Also no You're a beta cuck. That's why you have no choice. If you're important, they will call you.
Jeremiah Walker
>If they ever decide to put it on f-droid, maybe I'll give it a try. it's open source, you could potentially build it yourself and put it there I think
Ryan Barnes
>signal has everything on there except the group and video calls though
No it doesn't. It just got 1to1 video calling in the beta, but it's still missing the standalone desktop client, multidevice support, and group calling.
This isn't biased. You are misinformed.
Ayden Bell
That chart is really old. Whatsapp has had encryption for a while.
They don't yet, but they probably have lots of money now (they're ex Skype devs) and they plan to have some paid features later. They might also be making some money from metadata.
But all in all, there's not much to complain about it. I like how you don't need a fucking phone to register and use it, unlike a lot of messengers nowadays. And while it's a centralized service (with a proprietary server) it's probably as good as it gets for messengers while still being normie-friendly. The fully open source (and decentralized) messengers end up being either normie-unfriendly or underfunded, which hurts development and sustainability in the long run.
Jose Gutierrez
>That chart is really old. Whatsapp has had encryption for a while.
Are you dumb? That's exactly what the chart says.
Christopher Russell
Signal doesn't work without a phone number. Signal doesn't have a web app. Signal doesn't have a desktop client (there's some Chrome extension or something). Signal doesn't have video calls (yet).
Jacob Scott
>Signal doesn't have video calls (yet).
The beta is out with video calls and Opus for the audio.
Try to keep up to date on all of them before you argue.
Joshua Green
Oh, I'll have to pay for it eventually. Reinstalling Signal.
Leo Martinez
No, it doesn't. Try not to reply so fast without reading first, you're shitting up the board.
Oliver James
Yes, it does, you blind retard.
Aaron Young
What is wrong with you?
Noah Green
Do you have any friends? We have group chats and most of it is pointless crap.
Sure they'd call me for going out and shit. They're not going to call me for all the dank memes they found, they'll spam group chats. Messenger and Whatsapp are convenient for that, that's all there is to it.
Carson Cook
Op we dont talk about your bullshit Bc most of Sup Forums are tech illiterate windows 10 users asking where the "my computer" icon went in that version, and the small minority that are actually capable know that riot/matrix is the current and future
Jaxson Robinson
I sit in an online lounge for that shit(soc media is like 3-5 years behind in meme time). As for IRL friends I lost/drop contact with them by the time I was 18. I began work at 16, and by then they all became attention whoring faggots/just dumb cunts/just cunts. But that happened for a fair few people from my region at the time. Culture shift. Still haven't gotten back to having friends yet. I'm 26 now. Did have a girl from 16-22. Might go play warhammer at a store. You happy now you normie fuck? I'll go socialize. ;_;
Blake Ramirez
Red pill me on riot/matrix
Ryder Morales
I'm not happy, you fucking faggot. Yeah, I know what it feels like, I lost contact with most people during my 6 year long relationship, also from 16-22. Downloaded both Messenger and Whatsapp and became part of botnet last year so I can get back in the game.
Being paranoid and isolated from the world is no fun, I'd rather get shit memes in group chats. Keeps you sane.
Good luck socializing.
Justin Hernandez
It would be preferable to offer self hosting options but a default feature would be zero logging except for debugging.
Connor Torres
>Red pill me
Thomas Diaz
no
Aiden Gray
Can I paste memes into it directly from the clipboard like Telegram? If not this is doa.
James Hernandez
I thought WhatsApp did have a standalone desktop version?
Caleb Jackson
$100 says it requires a phone number to create an account.
Alexander Barnes
you can register on your pc, and then login to that account on your phone
pay up bitch
Grayson Taylor
I drag and drop or paste memes into wire all the time. Default it has animated gif using giphy for reaction gifs if you don't have a meme folder already.
You can reg via email. I have my legit account and a couple puppet accounts. Desktop app is pretty good. Shame hangouts doesn't have one or many of the others. Telegram was one of the few that actually had a desktop app that was total shit or third party.
Camden Wright
Telegram has also promised to open source the server software. We'll see.
Why not XMPP+OMEMO with Conversations or ChatSecure?
Luis Miller
Discord channel I'm in has sections for memes and unrelated shit so that it stays off the main discussion or questions section.
Wyatt Reyes
how can it be Sup Forums approved if we're not talking about it?
Robert Richardson
PGP is still the most secure
Connor Thomas
>XMPP+OMEMO with Conversations or ChatSecure I hope this gains more traction too as well as microg.org/