>The flaw in Intel's Atom C2000 family of chips has been vexing Intel's hardware customers for at least a year and a half, according to a source at one affected supplier, but it wasn't immediately obvious that Intel's silicon was to blame.
>The well-placed insider, who spoke to The Register on condition of anonymity, said the problem – which results in bricked systems – became apparent to engineers at product makers when the return rate on gear spiked about 18 months ago.
>It took additional time to figure out that Intel's hardware was responsible. The vendor in question worked with Intel engineers during this period to replace affected units under manufacturer warranty. Then about two months ago, Intel acknowledged the issue was with its chip blueprints, the source said.
Intel is replacing C2000 with C3000 soon, it's not an issue
Jordan Rivera
>x is flawed. >just buy the next one! Apple logic.
Evan Murphy
Yes let me quick recall my satellite from orbit for a quickie CPU upgrade and we'll be off and away.
Eli James
Oh that's right, people don't typically put Intel CPUs into satellites in orbit. Because that'd be fucking retarded because Intel can't even nail down and produce even just one long-term, stable X86 / AMD64 CPU.
INTEL JEWS BTFO AGAIN
Oliver Ortiz
>only server cpus ok
Isaiah Lewis
How much you anons want to bet it's something to do with their fucking built-in fuses.
Those fuckers could have been cooked up with the wrong memes and are popping now...
Noah Powell
Does Intel even have any radiation hardened CPUs?
Parker Smith
All of them.
Matthew Green
Well this looks like the self-destruct function that intel was working on before Zen made them actually give a shit
Ryan Lopez
Intel has their own fucking particle accelerator- they test ALL their semiconductor products in particle accelerators.
It's not average day radiation that's the problem, it's cosmic rays from space that come down with extremely high energys and fuck up processors.
Lucas Watson
my ass bla bla marketing
Adrian Walker
They actually do, dipshit. So does AMD. So does ARM. Everyone particle accelerate tests their processors. you'd be a moron not to.
Elijah Taylor
So you're telling me that every day Intel CPUs have the same radiation hardening that makes a difference between a $100 processor and a $200000 processor? Bullshit.
Kevin Adams
sure user
Chase Murphy
DELET
Julian Edwards
?super low binned failed celerons aren't selling Oh no, how will intel survive
Blake Scott
>aren't selling more like, failing in the field
Henry Anderson
>implying 8 core Celerons even exist
Juan King
>failing in the field >Super low binned failed celerons are failing Oh wow, nobody saw that coming
Samuel Martin
No.
Doesn't mean that they don't have radiation hardening. Check your reading comprehension nigger.
Joseph Cox
I'm not doubting that they have some form of radiation hardening but I was clearly talking about radiation hardening for use in space. Obviously you're the one that needs to work on his reading comprehension.
Nathan Bell
So Intel's just fine with selling defective products, good to know.
Ian Morales
Space-hard CPUs are few and far between and typically use expensive silicon on sapphire technology. I'm not aware of any space-hard Intel CPUs.
Charles Young
>fine with selling defective products All binned products are defective products.
Ethan Robinson
Still waiting for you to show me that 8 core Celeron that becomes these Atoms
>binned Was Intel selling these defective CPUs without telling the customer they were likely to fail?
No, of course not.
Anyway I don't think you'll find much support for your claim that all CPUs that ship with cores disabled are 'defective' inside Intel. It's a yield-increasing measure.
Hunter Bell
>buy cheap as shit low power CPUs >surprised they don't last as long as more expensive parts
All these server Atom CPUs are only sold as Atom, not Celeron
Denverton uses Goldmont cores, up to 16 cores while Avoton maxes out at 8
Michael James
>claims the processors are low binned Celerons >there isn't even a Celeron in existence that could become one of these Just admit you were wrong already.
Wyatt Bennett
see
David Sanders
What does that have to do with the fact that there are no 8 core Celerons?
Irrelevant. You can't take a low end quad core CPU and magically double the core count.
Chase Nguyen
Maybe it's the other way round, but they're all budget tier parts is the point.
Christopher Sanders
And my point is that it's impossible for an 8 core Atom to be a low binned Celeron. Sure, the Atoms may be low end parts but they were never Celerons.
Tyler Thomas
Celerons are failed Pentiums, which are failed Atom server processors.
Angel Garcia
No such thing as an 8 core Pentium either. These processors were destined to be Atoms from the start.
Ryder Clark
Just look at this shit and figure out the binning..... 8/4/2 core silvermonts that make the grade become Atoms, Pentiums or Celerons depending on how defective they are....
Lincoln Anderson
>the two core Atoms are literally failed celerons >The autstic state of this retard who doesn't understand product binning
Aaron Flores
>C2350 aren't FAILED CELERONS REEEE >literally downclocked celeron that sells for $2 less
Carson Ross
So where are these 8 core Pentium and Celeron processors that become Atoms when binned low enough? Oh that's right, they don't fucking exist. Also take those ellipses and fuck off, you retarded twat.
Justin Sanders
Remember goys, mobile processors dont have sockets. They are soldered directly to you (unique) motherboard.
tldr: GET WREKED GOYIM, NOW BUY NEW STUFF
Aiden Morris
>still focusing on muh 8 core Hey retard, some atoms are failed celerons. Nobody said that all of them are.
Jackson Ward
Hey dumbass, I never said the lower core count ones aren't. I'm clearly talking specifically about the 8 core models.
Carter Kelly
>I'm talking specifically about the 8 core models And nobody said that 8 core models are celerons.
Matthew Parker
Sure thing bud
Andrew James
see
Mason Brooks
I was obviously talking about 8 core processors.
Colton Jackson
The ones that are failing are literally C2338s you stupid fuck. They're literally failed celerons
Christopher James
the top of the line Atoms aren't the ones failing you dumbshit.
Nathan Cook
Yea my Baytrail tablets that were like 80 bucks or less are still going strong. They run Crysis have a full size USB 3 Type A Micro HDMI out Micro SD and sufficient eMMc 32GB. They run Win8 or Win10 which I eventually tossed Android x86 on with grub. I also have a Asus ZE551ML with a similar chipset and it's comfy as hell. Great with emulators too.
Owen Miller
The 8 core ones are okay?
Zachary Brown
>different TDPs >celerons dont suppot ECC >celerons have on board graphics >atoms have higher turbo modes >same chips but atoms are lower binned i'm not that user but how retarded are you
Jace Peterson
Fucking Intel we have bought Synology NAS with C2538 processor not so cheap 2month ago, and this shit intel processor with long term support for 7Years dying in 18months, Great. Never ever. In future AMD or ARM.
Jeremiah Jenkins
>Fucking Intel we have bought Synology NAS with C2538 processor You paid $2200 for a RS2416RP+ when you could have just bought some supermicro parts and installed windows or linux for a fraction of the price. How retarded are you?
Jack Morris
Yeah with no time to build things from parts and tunning SW on this we just bought complete solution. Arrrgh
Justin Jones
>no time >to spend an hour assembling parts >and installing a couple windows features >instead I have time to migrate ~40TB of data off it in a year and a half over 1GbE You could have had 10GbE too if you built it yourself
Grayson Baker
Is their a front end software as simple as synology?
Owen Gutierrez
>different TDPs nigger you blind, they're literally 2 watts apart and downclocked
Michael Watson
>TDP is lower because clockspeed is lower >I have never heard of underclocking This is how retarded you are.
Seems so, the article only mentions the literally piss poor parts specifically the C2338 >ASROCK board dies >It's intel's fault
Lucas Turner
>Is their a front end software as simple as synology? Yes. If you run ESXi on it and setup a failover cluster you wont incur downtime when you install windows updates either.
see you retards. the atom is clocked higher yet you keep on claiming it is a lower binned celeron
Liam Myers
>atom is clocked higher Only the top of the line ones you stupid fuck The 'atoms' you mentioned are communications boards not sold to the public.
Connor Butler
>clocked higher >The TDP is literally double because it's two pentiums sewn together You really are a moron you know.
Bentley Sanders
Hey dipshit 4 core pentiums are literally Top of the line Atoms with defective cores being turned into IGPUs.]
Luke Martinez
>the top of the line ones >are lower binned celerons which dont have specs nearly as nice
>its a pentium now not a celeron >because pentiums are dual socket >i dont understand what cache coherency is
Nathaniel Torres
>The vendor in question aka cisco
Caleb Robinson
>top of the line ones are lower binned celerons Who said this? People are saying that the defective ones are literally low binned Celerons.
See >c2350 >Literally an underclocked celeron j1750 >and costs $2 less
Evan Perry
>It's a pentium now not a celeron THEY'RE ALL THE SAME FUCKING MICROARCHITECURE AND PROCESS YOU STUPID PRICK. THEY'RE ALL BINNED VERSIONS OF THE SAME FUCKING THING JESUS FUCK YOU ARE RETARDED.
Mason Roberts
>ZE551ML MAH. FUCKING. NUIGGGGGAAAA
Kevin James
>8 core atom >Hey guys some of the cores are defective. >It's okay we'll just cut the silicone and tag an IGPU on it and sell it as a pentium
Welcome to the world of binning.
Camden Nguyen
>Hey guys even more of the cores are defective >It's okay we'll just disable the 2 cores and sell it as a Celeron
>Hey guys this one can't reach the required clockspeed. >It's okay we'll just underclock and disable the turbo and sell it to retarded cheap server machines
Yeah the fucked atoms are literally parts discarded 2/3 times
After Ivy Bridge, all Pentiums and Celerons are basically different variations of Atoms and vice versa. They're literally the same product that's binned for different markets.
Carson Ross
Fibre optic cables are too easy to break though
Jose Green
like pottery
Christian Bailey
This isn't uncommon. Intel has been running scared because of ARMs domination.
They've fired a lot of their quality control people in hopes of accelerating delivery to market
Basically, be careful when buying garbage from Intel and check the erratas for any stepping you consider purchasing.
Carter Morgan
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Joseph Hernandez
You have no idea what you're talking about, manlet. Shut your mouth.
Daniel Cox
ARM domination is hilarious. And skylake had half the amount of bugs haswell did
Adam Hall
this is a big shitup, especially with AMD coming back Shittel must be in panic mode about now
Robert Reed
One of the fix purported by one of the big networking vendors is a reduce clock rate, which could be possible via BIOS updates, but god knows what problems that could cause with an SoC.
Adam Brooks
>The ones that are failing are literally C2338s you stupid fuck And the C2550/2558 And the C2750/2758 Otherwise known as ALL OF THE FUCKING AVOTON/RANGELEYS
Also, the C2750, C2550, and C2358 use a different die than the consumer Pentium/Celeron SoCs. The dies are significantly larger and has more embedded controllers in the die. A C2358 has up to 8 lanes of PCIe Gen 2.0 along with an embedded NIC with support for 4 1GbE ports. Not to mention that the Avoton/Rangeley uses a different FCBGA (FCBGA1283) than the Pentium J2900/CeleronJ1900/CeleronJ1800 (FCBGA1170).
