Thinkpad T420

Why don't you own the best laptop ever made?

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Because I own a W520.

>laptop
>not designed to be used in lap

The T420 is like a MacBook with all of the flaws of a MacBook but none of the advantages

it's also fucking ugly and has terrible battery life

>Why don't you own the best laptop ever made?
I had one of those. Was too heavy for uni and gave it to my mum. Now got a x220 for quite a long time. It's nice.
Sometimes I miss the 1600x900 display though

>heavy
>bulky
>poor battery life
>optical drive

t. poorfag

6 hour battery terrible

>heavy
I'm skinnyfat as fuck and never broke a sweat lugging it around

Sure, but you know that I need to carry around other stuff too, rite? My Knapsack is always kinda full and since we can't solve the knapsack problem right now, I am fucked.

>MikeRoll
kek'd

I do have one, and I don't understand why they're shilled so fucking hard lately.

They're gutless, ugly, huge and unwieldy, I'd much rather have a good X or W series from this generation than the shitty middle of the road that has all the worst and none of the best of either.

Build quality isn't really that great either, that generation is ridden with cheap plastics and mine already has cosmetic defects from just being taken to and from classes. Ended up replacing it with something else, good thing it was free to begin with.

It's not about the difficulty of carrying it, it's about how it handles. It's big and thick, it doesn't feel nice to carry or handle, it feels like it will shatter into pieces if you drop it. It's unneeded weight and heft that has no right to be there for something mostly designed for basic 2D productivity.

The best screen you can get it with is 1600x900, and it's TN. It's thick and heavy by today's standards. You can't buy it new, it's always going to have some wear and tear.

Don't forget that god awful bezel.

This.

I own three user.

>shitty display

ughhh no thanks. one of the most differentiating factors on a computer, and it has to have an ugly TN display.

Nice! W520 master race!

shit screen
shit resolution
housefire-tier cpu
shit battery life
fucking fan, in 2017
old, heavy, loud, thicc
bezel

These are shit too, god awful engineering , shit build quality and pathetic internals compared to their competitors.

I don't know why Sup Forums shills these Thinkpads so much either. I mean they have some nice aspects, but they leave much to be desired when it comes to portability.

That said, I don't know if there's much better out there for that money. It seems that most cheap laptops are 15.6"...

>That said, I don't know if there's much better out there for that money. It seems that most cheap laptops are 15.6"...
It's half the reason there are so many faggots on Sup Forums that shill them in the first place, they're cheap as shit just like their users, "different" like their users, "professional" like their users wish they were (and pretend to be)

cheap and durable is the only reason why I got a x220.
Would like to get a x1 carbon or something like that, but ain't got the money right now and a x220 just fuckin works. It is really nothing great or special, but it just works and was cheap as shit

if you got the best dGPU option in it - how does it feel to have an old as fuck nvs 4200m dGPU which is actually SLOWER than intel atom's x8500 iGPU?
Keep in mind we are comparing 35W CPU + 35W dGPU in case of T420 to a 2W SoC in any cheap windows tablet, like asus t100ha.
Don't you feel ashamed of using a deprecated 8 years old platform?

my t61 works and was $20

Why would you need a fast GPU for something intended mostly for 2D work?
>Don't you feel ashamed of using a deprecated 8 years old platform?
Why would you care about that as long as the system performs to expectations? Don't you feel ashamed of being such a feeble-minded child that you're seriously afraid of what random people might think of the piece of plastic you access the internet with?

The T420 is garbage, but shit on it for real reasons, here, not those stupid sheepish talking points.

>Why would you need a fast GPU
to play gaymes, watch 4k movies (efficiently, with minimal power use!) and to have a nice GPU acceleration in windows 10 + chrome
>as the system performs to expectations?
but it doesn't, at lesat in my case. Sorry kid but carrying around this big heavy shit all damn day is painful. Why not get some 2 in 1 qt windows tablet instead that is 6 times lighter?
But I assume your parents bought you your first laptop (obviously used, they don't love you enough to get you new things :D), so you have to show off to random people on Sup Forums what you got. You're pathetic

x60 is the best, only floss fsf laptop

also the point comparing both GPUs was to show you how fast the progress in that matter is. And if you don't care about performance you should care about TDP, power use and dimensions. Buying a 14" laptop that can barely cool itself with all these heavy heatsinks is just... retarded.

>But I assume your parents bought you your first laptop (obviously used, they don't love you enough to get you new things :D)
this triggers Sup Forums

>to play gaymes, watch 4k movies
this is a laptop
>and to have a nice GPU acceleration in windows 10 + chrome
igpu does that just fine

>this is a laptop
So? Are you retarded?
In 2017 people connect their devices to 4k TVs to watch shit they record using their smartphones. Is this something new to you?
>igpu does that just fine
Except it doesn't, unless all you do on your cumstained shitpad is browsing Sup Forums and 9gag.
Most websites in 2017 can _actually_ use available resources, unlike these two

>In 2017 people connect their devices to 4k TVs
I don't care what "people" do, but you should have a proper (HT)PC for your 4k TV, not a laptop.
Unless you're so poor that your laptop is literally the only computer you have, I guess.

>Except it doesn't
Example?

Outdated trash.

>to play gaymes
Why would you want to do this on a tiny uncomfortable laptop? Parents won't buy you a real desktop?
>watch 4k movies (efficiently, with minimal power use!)
Why would you want to do this on a tiny uncomfortable laptop? Parents won't let you use the family TV?
>and to have a nice GPU acceleration in windows 10 + chrome
Why would you want to be this autistic?
>but it doesn't, at lesat in my case.
Then don't use it? How difficult is it for your double-digit IQ ass to comprehend that not all products are made for you and your use case?
>Why not get some 2 in 1 qt windows tablet instead that is 6 times lighter?
Because tablets are steaming garbage even compared to the BezelBook? Why would you subject yourself to such a piece of shit ever?
>But I assume your parents bought you your first laptop (obviously used, they don't love you enough to get you new things :D), so you have to show off to random people on Sup Forums what you got. You're pathetic
Why are you projecting so hard when you're literally doing the same exact thing? You're either a troll or really stupid.
Maybe both troll AND stupid.

>I don't care what "people" do
Then what's the point of this shit thread?
Fuck off back to kid
You're so proud of your used shitpad that you have to come here every fucking day and make a new thread on how glorious your thinkpad is. Are you so sad and alone in your life that you need to gain attention in such pathetic way?
Delete this thread and _FUCK OFF_

Just stop posting, you're making the rest of us who actually understand why shitpads are overrated look as fucking retarded and childlike as you with all that whiny fucking projection. Nobody gives a shit that mommy bought you a cheap ultrabook to shut your whiny crybaby ass up, either.

Calm down, kiddo. I'm not defending Thinkpads at all (there is more than one poster here), I'm just asking why you need a powerful GPU in a fucking laptop.

Don't bother, he doesn't actually know, he's probably too underage to have gotten to the point of actually using a laptop for what it was actually made to do.

>Why would you want to do this on a tiny uncomfortable laptop?
Because I leave _MY_ house and like to use my computer outside? You know, where the sun shines and other people are around?
>uncomfortable
But that's like your opinion. You know what happens to it?
>Why would you want to do this
Because I prefer ir that way. I don't want to have 6 computers in my house, and each one for it's specific use. I got more important things to buy that a shitty "HTPC" connected to my 4k TV just to occiasionally watch 4k recording.
>Why would you want to be this autistic?
Shit and retarded question - shit and retarded answer. Kill yourself
>rest of this post
literally hang yourself. Now

>tfw this post above is literally an example of butt-devastated shitpad user too poor to get a mac and too stupid to buy an hp elitebook laptop
Enjoying falling for Sup Forums memes

I gave you 5 examples why already, you ignored them all. If you don't care about it then why ask?

fuck thinkpads. hp 8460p >>>> thinkpad t420

>Using a laptop for gayming
>Calling others pathetic

Son...

I have an Intel i7 4770k + Geforce GTX 1080 desktop and I just ordered this Thinkpad E570 with Nvidia 950M because I want to be able to watch muh torrents on TVs and play games on the go.

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The other user has a point in that the shitty GPUs are the biggest thing that turn me off of using older hardware.

You've got to at least be able to play 1080p youtube vids in 2017..

>everyone needs to enjoy gaymes the way I do!
Autism...

Pic rel, every single buttmad thinkfag ITT.

>Because I leave _MY_ house and like to use my computer outside? You know, where the sun shines and other people are around?
Why then shut yourself away from that by playing shitty games on sub-par mobile hardware?
>Because I prefer ir that way. I don't want to have 6 computers in my house,
So you're too stupid to figure out how to use more than one machine, or you're just too poor to afford anything larger than a studio apartment? Good to know.
>I got more important things to buy that a shitty "HTPC" connected to my 4k TV just to occiasionally watch 4k recording.
Like posting on Sup Forums and playing games at Starbucks and calling yourself social?

You know, I thought you were baiting at first but I genuinely think you're this fucking retarded.

Sorry, meant to respond to this:

>Because I leave _MY_ house and like to use my computer outside? You know, where the sun shines and other people are around?
And then you play games there on your Alienware? Talk about autism.

Anything made in the last 10 years can decode 1080p vids, man. You don't need a dedicated GPU unless you play games on a laptop (lol).

>You've got to at least be able to play 1080p youtube vids in 2017..
Any piece of shit made in the last 10 years can do this easily, are you really this brainwashed by marketing?

>I got more important things to buy
>Like posting on Sup Forums and playing games at Starbucks and calling yourself social?

Reading clearlh isn't your best skill, kid.
Calm down, take your anti-autism pills and come back. Or don't.

>retard

But I do user. Are you to poor to afford one?

Sorry, meant to respond to this:

clearh

It's hilarious how you keep dodging more and more of my replies as they hit home and only concentrate on things you can fire off a weak ass rebuttal to.

Sure, in that case we can definitely assume you're pretty poor if you can't even put together a few hours' pay for a low-end mITX HTPC. Guess mommy should've got you one of those with that binned korean 4K panel, huh?

>Best laptop ever made
>STATIC Dithering
>1280x800
>TN Panel
>Loud fan
>Shitty plastic that wears down after only months of use
>Keyboard flex
You're joking right?

>can do this easily
>easily
I think you don't understand what this word means, kid.
Now do yourself a favor and compare power consumption and CPU use on both modern mobile CPUs (even smallest atoms!) and old, deprecated as fuck i5-2520m/i7-2620m in T420. Maybe you'll understand why calling this "easy" is a lie.

>but if I move the goalposts I'll still be right
Dumbshit.

>Calling people autismos
>Can't go outside without playing some videogames on the street

Nintendo has the solution for you, my neckbearded fagwaffle.

>don't want to spend money on stupid shit
>buhuu you're poor, be like me and waste money on stupid shit I don't need!
autism, brain damage, lack of attention and good manners.
Silence yourself fool and leave this thread.
10 inch 2 in 1 tablet can do everything I need and expect from a PC, and there is nothing you can do to change that. Trying to convince other people to buy shitpads because "muh shitpad meme" is just stupid.
2017 cheapest tablets are faster than 2009 shitpads. Get over it. If you don't need the extra performance then good for you - enjoy what you have. But stop making these threads and trying to force people into doing what you like. Dumb fucking idiot.

>buhuu but my 2009 shitpad can play 1080p youtube videos at 100% CPU use! This means it's better than modern CPUs!
literally hillary clinton tier logic

The only reason I consider thinkpads as an option is because they're really cheap. Their design seems to be pretty crappy, not too sturdy or anything, and have poor screens, battery life, etc. But for what they cost I can't possibly think of a good alternative to them. Anything for 300 bucks is really crappy.

>Their design seems to be pretty crappy, not too sturdy or anything
They're about as sturdy as laptops get, though obviously it varies from model to model. The most well built ones are old IBMs that are too old be to practical anymore.

The main issues are just battery life and size, which don't really matter too much to most of Sup Forums's demographic, and then the screens which can either be good if you hunt down a model that supports a decent panel, else you just have to live with the compromise of your laptop being dirt cheap but having a TN panel.

It's hilarious how I've never actually mentioned shitpads in any of my posts yet you're still crying into your keyboard about them for paragraphs at a time, do they make you feel inadequate for some reason? Like your delusions of grandeur are being unraveled right before your eyes by basic critical thinking?

It's cool that tablet you got from school is handling your letsplays and half page double spaced essays though, nobody here really cares. It's obvious you're not the average person considering how emotional you get over chinese plastic and how much you base your idea of self-worth on the date codes it carries.

>if I keep imagining "ideal" counter-arguments to my shitty non-arguments I'll still be right
>meanwhile I need a GTX 1070 to watch muh ecelebs
Supreme dumbshit.

user, you've been already proven wrong so many times that I'm just going to quit this discussion.
Enjoy your cumstained shitpad, but please just take your preferences and opinions back to your containment thread, so I can easily filter this unholy autism

That was the gayest bait ever but I couldn't help but reply it was so fucking juicy, here's your last (You) for the night. Dumbshit.

>That was the gayest bait ever
Ideal for you.
Now take your shoo shoo back to Don't post in this thread anymore

>i5-2520m/i7-2620m

Don't those have gpu acceleration for h264?

No
also
>h264
>2017
kek

I thought you were leaving.

>gayest bait ever
ideally fits in your tight boipucci

I only let macshills in there, they have the best toys.

>No
Yes.
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Also, just tried playing a 1080p video on Youtube with a Core2duo. It was VP9, so no GPU acceleration, but CPU usage was below 30% and no dropped frames.

So I'm pretty sure any i5/i7 can handle it easily.

>core2duo
>no speedstep
>30% use
>power use: 2137W

And your point is? Those i5s are significantly faster, so saying that a T420 can't play 1080p Youtube easily is wrong.

Nobody said T420 can't into 1080p youtube.
All I said was it does it inefficiently even in comparison to modern 2W Atom SoCs

>it does it inefficiently even in comparison to modern 2W Atom SoCs
Unless those SoCs have hardware accelerated VP9 decoding, no.
Even if they do, that doesn't say much unless all you do with your computer is watch Youtube videos.
Atoms are pretty weak in general CPU performance.

>no speedstep
what planet do you live on? that shit's been a thing since the Pentium III
either way C2Ds are hardly power hogs, stop exaggerating reality to validate your retarded goalpost moving

>speedstem on c2ds
>three power states with almost same voltage
>also what are c states
kys

>moving the goalposts again
>still uses fuck all no matter what

using old CPUs, aka. wasting power and resources should be illegal in any 1st world country.

dude weed

Manufacturing new CPUs and PCs is also wasting resources.

>now let's stealthily try to change the subject away from my failed shitty argument with a provocative statement not based in reality or rational thought
'no'

take responsibility for your retardation by killing yourself instead of continuing to waste oxygen and resources better spent on people with an IQ above 85

Because my work gave me a T450

Compared to using resources making new ones instead of using old ones?
Your the same as those retarded leftists that want slightly more efficient cars and to get rid of old ones even though they don't take into account that the production of the new cars also uses a lot of resources which do no good to the environment.

It's way too big and heavy
If I were a Sup Forums drone who knows nothing of the world outside of Thinkpads I'd use an X series.
Thankfully there are other choices out there.

...

I don't own the best laptop ever made because I'm too poor.

I do, however, own a T420.

how's it treating you?

because that shit is ancient, it belongs to a museum

that's weird, because they run fine

even my t410 runs fine with most applications

the only major shitty thing is the shitty screen

It fits my use case well enough. I basically treat it like a Chromebook that can also run visual novels. The battery life is acceptable with the extended battery, and the keyboard is amazing. The only fault I have with it is that it doesn't like running YouTube at 60fps. It'll do it, but it gets hot and eats a lot of battery. The screen was shit, too, but it's better after I swapped in the panel from an Alienware M14x R2.

I did the biggest mistake anyone could do and got the t440s
I didn't pay full price (was over 1300€) I only paid like 600€
But still... The trackpad is making me want to kill myself
If it didn't have cancer trackpad and fans would be quiter it would be perfect for me

Because I own a T450s

Elitebook 2560p mustard ace reporting in.

2560 and 2570p are the best lapotps Sup Forums ignores

What's Sup Forums's opinion on the X220t?

bad!