Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.
Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price, or improve specs or build quality.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price. logicalincrements.com/
>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA
>Consider a G4560 instead of i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction. >Consider using an i5 6500/7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build. >Consider stock fan+heatsink for any locked CPU build without a Z mobo. >Consider a H110/B150 (UEFI needs update before installing a Kaby Lake CPU) or B250 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build. >Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build or even budget builds instead of a HDD. >The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050Ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB. >Do not buy CPU's before Ryzen is released
If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with
I thought Ryzen would be released in mid-to-late-March
Jaxson Cox
Nice microwave.
This is now /pcbg/ Poverty Cook Book General.
Lincoln Hall
Waitcucks are cancer.
Connor Brown
Objectively good build but consider a RX480 instead the 1060 and get some other cooler, Intel stock sucks ass and with your budget you can afford it. Also wait for Zen, it's not even two weeks away, it's not like Intel CPUs will run away.
Brayden Sanchez
6/10 Get that MSI gaymur garbo out of there. Get something from gigabyte or asus. Try the Fractal Desin S for same price.
Josiah Brooks
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050Ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB
The 1070 cards are absolutely worth it.
Anthony Diaz
Heres a better quality photo
Hunter Brooks
Drop the HDD and get a bigger SSD. It's easier to add storage later than swapping OS drive. You can get an RX480 8GB for $200 which has the same performance as the 1060 6GB.
ayy
yeah, should add "for 1080p" in that sentence.
Nicholas Walker
How so?
Buying a Kaby now would be absolutely retarded.
Chase Brown
Nobody bothers to change anything on there, just copypaste. I did add the little not about buying CPUs before Ryzen release
Jayden Scott
You people seem to think AMD is the good guy and saviour of poor fags, and will sell competitive CPUs for half the price of intel. They aren't and they won't. >b-b-but muh leaks Stop being dumb.
Zachary Perez
Someone should do a custom loop fondue desu~
Jason Cooper
Who said we we're going to buy AMD? We're waiting for Intel to lower their prices
Angel Hill
The point is price drops as well you fucking retard.
Zachary White
Intel don't lower their prices. Even when AMD were undeniably superior during the Athlon64 days, intel were still more expensive. They give no fucks and sell on brand name alone.
Jace Baker
What if Ryzen turns out to be hot garbage? We've been rused by AMD before
Jackson Martin
>If you're thinking of buying the 7100, you probably want the G4560 instead Can't seem to find a G4560 here. all sold out. The G4620 though, is about $30 cheaper than an i3 7100. Is it worth it?
Dominic Carter
You'll be endlessly told to wait for ryzen+ or whatever they're calling the next version.
Asher Walker
I have heard conflicting info about whether or not to use the Intel stock cooler. I will be buying the CPU last though so buy then hopefully their prices will have dropped. The Asus ROG Strix is $130 for just a gaymur mobo and the Gigabyte GA-B250-HD3 mobo doesn't support 2400hz RAM. The only other one worth it is the Asus Prime B250 Plus but that is literally the same price as the MSI mobo. What sets the Fractal Define S apart from the Eclipse P400 though? How much bigger would you recommend? I will be buying the GPU second to last and will decide on which is cheaper then. If the AMD card is cheaper then I will buy it, if not, I will get Nvidia.
Ian Thompson
this
only a fucking retard would buy something this close to the release of something new
then AMD is actually finished for good. They wont be able to recover if they do another Bulldozer/Piledriver failure. The tiny trust they had will be gone forever
the G4560 has made sub 500 builds so much better desu
Sebastian Ortiz
At least get a 500GB SSD, that would cost about the same as the 250GB SSD + HDD.
Justin Hughes
Why does a 16GB DDR4 3000MHz ram cost 169 euros here but a 16GB 3200Mhz ram only 129?
What is wrong with this place?
Colton Perry
>Intel don't lower their prices
Retailers will.
Jacob White
the better one is cheaper so who cares?
also, demand and/or better timings maybe
Andrew Wilson
>I have heard conflicting info about whether or not to use the Intel stock cooler. Intel stock cooler is enough for locked CPUs like yours but it's still shit, it's loud and CPU still gets pretty hot. Something like the Cryorig M9i for about 19 bucks is much better and worth the money.
Thank you for the suggestion, but I would rather not OC my PC. So just get a 500GB SSD and grab an HHD later? I'm cautious about not having a large amount of space on my computer to start with, especially since I have to transfer my files from my old computer to new one Ok will do. Didn't want to pay more than $30 for a fan if I was going to get one anyways.
Jaxson Murphy
The cheaper one probably has shittier CAS timings.
Michael Phillips
>but I would rather not OC my PC. you might change your mind later, and it's quite a decent amount of performance boost. if anything you have the option down the road and it would mean you dont have to upgrade as soon and save money in the long run. also it's slightly better resell value. and if it's about you not knowing how to do it, it's literally one click in the UEFI BIOS with these new Intel CPUs and as long as you dont go too high and keep OK temps there's no chance anything breaks.
>I'm cautious about not having a large amount of space on my computer to start with, especially since I have to transfer my files from my old computer to new one How much space does your current use? You could just re-use the hard drives from your current in the new one (if they're SATA).
>Ok will do. Didn't want to pay more than $30 for a fan if I was going to get one anyways. If you want an alternative, the Hyper 212 is also good value.
Isaiah Parker
IIRC it's also a ~$100 increase in the price and I would rather not go over $1100 in terms of budget. I do know how to OC, I just would rather not, seeing as this is my first build and I don't want to complicate things. Maybe in the future when it is time to upgrade but for now I will just stick to a locked CPU.
Currently my hard drive uses uses about 600 GB. The thing is I am currently using a laptop (I don't know if the laptop hard drive is SATA so I'll have to do research on that).
I have heard good things about the Hyper 212 so I will just look into both and see which is more value.
>Currently my hard drive uses uses about 600 GB it's most likely SATA or mSATA. you could buy a USB enclosure and use as external drive if you wanted, or buy an adapter (if it's not regular SATA) and put in your new case.
But if you have that much shit and cant clean some of it you could go with 250GB SSD + 2TB HDD and just keep the essential stuff on the SSD.
Joshua Bell
why are you here then?
Matthew White
Wasting my night.
Carter Nguyen
Needs 2400MHz RAM for sure
Isaac Miller
How's this look for a budget build? Should I get a different motherboard or something?
Kinda sucks You'd need the board preflashed, consider B250 Get 2400MHz RAM Drop to GTX 1050 or upgrade to RX470 Get 240GB SSD
Joshua Stewart
>need not really. he wont notice any difference. also for the bump up to that he could get 3000mhz for the same price.
read OP's post.
Adrian Nelson
>not really. he wont notice any difference. also for the bump up to that he could get 3000mhz for the same price. All of this is shit. He can't use 3000MHz on that board at its full speed. It will run at 2400
>read OP's post Some retard gutted it of any worthwhile builds
Aaron Smith
read what said a gain and look at the prices.
2100 is almost $10 cheaper and he wont notice any difference. 2400 is the same price as 3000 and like you said it's capped to 2400.
so, like i said, he does not NEED 2400Mhz RAM.
Ethan Bailey
>Drop to GTX 1050 or upgrade to RX470 Why is that? is the 1050 ti a bad card?
Jaxson Cook
compared to 470 yes
Charles Hill
>preflashed Not familiar with flashing a motherboard. Why is it a bad thing? What downside is there to getting a H110 mobo and flashing the bios to update it, as opposed to getting a b150? Also I don't have much money to work with so a 240gb ssd is too much.
oh, I missed that. thanks.
Jaxon Gutierrez
The difference is at most $6.88 according to PCpartpicker. The 2400MHz RAM allows the G4560 to match the i3 6100 (find the new Digital Foundry video for yourself); the difference is certainly noticeable in benchmarks and is a worthwhile price/perf purchase.
Anyway he doesn't even NEED a gaming PC at all
Bad price/perf. The 1050Ti is the best card you can get for the average prebuilt, so you pay a slight but annoying premium.
Zachary Young
you cant boot kaby lake cpu with a 1xx motherboard without updating bios and not every mobo can update bios without a CPU installed.
Grayson Sanders
>What downside is there to getting a H110 mobo and flashing the bios to update it Can't do that without a Skylake CPU installed
A 240GB SSD is a mere $20 more than a 120GB for twice the storage, at least last time I checked prices
James Turner
like i said 50 times already, if he's spending the extra money for faster ram he should just get the 3000mhz ram cus its exactly the same price.
Bentley Wilson
About to pull the trigger, please look over. Looking to run EVE, Nep games, and make into a PLEX/NAS server in 12 months.
>buying i3 one week before ryzen enjoy your buyers remorse
Kevin Ward
fsp hydro g 650w at $80 worth it or save for evga g3 650w at $100? evga has a 2 yr longer warranty, really only advantage i can see.
i've never heard of fsp but apparently they're super good and been around forever.
Samuel Sanders
I thought of this too but I also thought how in 3 weeks I'll have my PC already with specs that will be able to accomplish whatever I need it to accomplish. How will Ryzen ultimately affect me? Save maybe $10 on a cpu if Intel knocked down the i3 price.
Jose Price
You could have gotten an overclockable quad-core R3 1300X for the same price as an i3-7100
Xavier Howard
FSP is good. Up to you if the extra warranty is worth it with EVGA.
Retailers might lower price on Intel stuff or you could get AMD and do what said, or Ryzen might be the same price and outperform the i3.
Why people would buy something when they know something that could compete is being release soon is beyond me.
Liam Robinson
I haven't bought it yet, but if it was really the same price, wouldn't that increase the price of a mother board that allowed overclocking? I'm not looking to do anything fancy at all with this rig. Quad core would be something nice to have, but this i3 dual core has plenty of computing power for what I want it to do.
How does everything else look on the list?
>that could compete is being release soon is beyond me. >could I haven't had good experiences with AMD in my past so Ryzen coming out isn't a huge factor in my build
Logan Howard
>wouldn't that increase the price of a mother board that allowed overclocking B350 allow for overclocking and they start at $65 Face it, u dun goofed
Nicholas Ortiz
We all remember Bulldozer, but this time there is actually a good chance it's decent since based Jim Keller worked on it and performance seems to actually be there.
he hasnt bought it yet u tard
Liam Walker
Let him buy Intel I want to feel his buyer's remorse on March 2nd
Cameron Wood
problem is ignorant consumers dont get buyers remorse, they just dismiss every argument to justify their purchase any way they can...
Adam Robinson
Where do I learn what are good and what are bad CAS timings? And how much of an impact do they have on performance?
Ethan Wilson
>u dun goofed I haven't bought it yet.
I've read into it just a little, but AMD is still AMD at the end of the day and the last AMD system I had went kaputz after 2 years. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from it.
What I'm worried about the most is probably my RAM choice cause I really don't get the CAS latency and whether or not it is so important.
Is anyone here running an NAS/Plex server? I'm just looking to stream to 2 devices (.mkv files @1080) at one time with this rig. I figure that will be the most intensive thing I do on this machine.
Grayson Ramirez
>they just dismiss every argument to justify their purchase any way they can That IS buyer's remorse, you dunce. They do that because they're unable to accept the fact that they made a poorly-thought purchasing decision. And then they move to the anger stage...
Liam Smith
Yet early adopter remorse doesn't concern you.
Wyatt Foster
lower is better. cas 15 vs 16 is barely any difference but you can always get lower cas for the same speed ram for the same price if you actually check the specs first so why not
>the last AMD system I had went kaputz after 2 years anecdotal evidence means nothing and it was most likely just bad luck.
but if we gonna go this way my dad still has my old 939 opteron rig humming along just fine on an lanparty nforce mobo and ddr1 ram.
i guess, but they dont admit that they have buyers remorse like a normal person.
sorry to crush your hopes you mentally retarded wankstain.
Brayden Turner
>Warning: These parts have potential issues/incompatibilities >will this work?
Jonathan Perry
no, pick a compatible AIO
Liam Reed
This whole thread is shit, starting with the OP
Haha
Timings will always to up with speed. Not an issue
Benjamin Harris
that's what happens when people dont know how to read or have any sense when it comes to making logical consumer choices
i blame intel shills
Matthew Jones
so how better is an i7 compared to an i5? AMDipshits need not answer
Wyatt Taylor
i7 is Ryzen-Lite i5 is UnRyzen
Josiah Sanchez
i7 has more threads than i5.
Cameron Hall
Actually I was referring to the conversational shitposting, like the post you just made.
Jack Lee
I guess we aren't really helping with this, are we?
Ryan Richardson
2MB less L3$, no hyperthreading, and lower clock frequencies due to lower binning. Buy an i7 if you can. If not, buy a decent Z270 motherboard and the cheapest CPU you can get away with. Then when the next socket comes along, upgrade to an i7 used.
Or buy a Ryzen R3 1300X and a B350 for less than the price of a single i7-7700K, you turd.
but do plan on buying a mobo that supports full 3.2GB/s glory
Anthony Perry
NVMe seems to be the new standard and will have native support so I dont see any reason not to get one, apart from the high cost.
Kayden Jackson
>amazon.com/dp/B01LYRCIPG/?tag=pcpapi-20 Wait until mainstream NVMe can fully saturate 4 lanes of PCIe Gen3 (about 2.8GB/s both ways). That's about two years away.
Landon Parker
Since the 4560/4620 are better than an i3, what would be a step above these processors? an i5?
