/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Headphone purchase advice
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>Sup Forums wiki headphone FAQ:
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askubuntu.com/questions/591803/how-to-check-bluetooth-version-on-my-laptop
askubuntu.com/questions/775523/after-updating-to-16-04-bluetooth-audio-a2dp-mode-stopped-working
superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-zenith-pmx2-redux-and-quick-impressions.60/#post-2140
superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/stax-srs-2170-sr-207-earphone-system-measurements.3595
youtube.com/watch?v=1l0EtAF_lEk
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

>Budget
50-60€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
dont care much
>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC 320

Also which standalone microphone do you suggest for 10-20€ ?

Want to buy second set of full sized headphones to compliment my HD650. I need two things: soundstage and bass. They can be V-shaped.

Anyone here make some mods to the T50rp mkiii?

>Budget
130 usd
>Location
Mexico
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
over
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy af
>Sound signature
bassy or v shaped
>Past headphones
none

50€ for Superlux HD660, did I do bad? My old headphones are 50€ House of Marley Positive Vibration On-Ear Headphones Mist
The cable on the marleys is very short, and the ear pads have gone stanky, I couldn't find replacements so I went for new headphones.

Pasting from last thread
>Budget
100 Euro, hard limit
>Location
Portugal, the ass of europe
>Source
Mainly PC but sometimes i listen to music while im outside
>Type of headphone
No earbuds, i share the headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The more the better
>Sound signature
I like bass but im not too picky with this price range, plus i have not that much experience
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 419 --- Really liked them but they broke and I need new ones. If they were still for sale I would get the same model

I got 3 in mind that seem ok but if you guys know anything better i would like to see it
- PIONEER SE-MS5T-K
- Sennheiser HD 4.30G

>No, Bluetooth driver for Linux. You should install actual binary driver (usually from WIndows) for your Linux BT to work right. It's probably a BT3 driver and Momentum uses BT4.
Ah, so I should connect it to Windows, install drivers, then try connecting it to my laptop again? My laptop appears to have 4.0 (besides spec sheet):
Features: 0xff 0xfe 0x0f 0xfe 0xdb 0xff 0x7b 0x87
HCI Version: 4.0 (0x6) Revision: 0x1000
askubuntu.com/questions/591803/how-to-check-bluetooth-version-on-my-laptop

So guys I own a pair of m40x and have been using my phone for playback

Would I see an improvement quality wise if I were to buy a Fiio x1 II ?
My library consist mainly of flac

Audio myths that need to go:

>Headphone form factor alters the soundstage
"Open back headphones have better/larger soundstage"

>Soundstage is an important parameter
"Open back is the best for gaming because of the soundstage"
"You want good soundstage for classical music"

>Frequency response for a genre
"Bassy response is great for EDM and rap"
"Grados are the best for rock"

>Working and competent amplifiers audibly distort/color the sound
"Tube amplifiers are warm sounding [because of they distort]"
"Solid state is analytical"

>Amplifier operation classes make them sound inherently different
"Class A is the purest and highest fidelity"
"Class D amplifiers are noisy"

>DA-converter topology carries a specific audible impact or benefit
"Multibit has better detail and soundstage than delta-sigma"

>Some transducer types are better than the others or carry inherent properties in how they sound
"Electrostatics are fast and clean"
"Planar magnetics have great bass"

>EQ hurts fidelity
"Equalization adds distortion"

>Lossy files are audibly different or worse than lossless
"MP3 sounds horrible"

>High resolution formats sound different/better compared to Redbook
"DSD sounds analog"

>Headphones, amplifiers or DA-converters are important in compression artifact audibility
"You can't hear the difference because your gear doesn't resolve enough detail"
"Using streaming services with HD 800 is going to sound bad"

>Wireless data transmission inherently and audibly alters or hurts the sound quality
"Wireless headphones are not audiophile"

>High impedance is hard to drive
"You need an amplifier for those HD 600s"
"Above 100 ohm you need an amplifier"

Now what did I miss?

This thread dead?

It's only just begun.

no, what I mean is that you should install binary driver from Windows into Linux (you don't need windows to do that). See what your Linux distro says about that.

>Budget
400 if new
300 if used

>Location
USA

>Source
iPhone or Asus zenpad 3s

>Type of headphone
Wireless for travel

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Very

>Sound signature
Not important

>Past headphones
Sennheiser hd558
Sennheiser hd598
Shure SE215
Sennheiser Momentum IEM

XB950BT
MDR10RBT

Where is a good site to get flac music?

Do you have an amp? You could just EQ them.

>Now what did I miss?
Stuff about CSD, cables, balanced setups, sighted/blind testing.
And preferably some citations to the contrary if you're trying to educate people.

Guess I'm fucked then. Sounds complicated.

from buying cds and making your own

Er.... Nothing more towards the high end of my budget?

This is one of those cases where Bing is your friend

Figured it out.

All I had to do was go into Volume Control (pulseaudio), go to the configuration tab, and set the momentum headset to High Fidelity Playback (A2DP Sink).

Simple. Got it from here:
askubuntu.com/questions/775523/after-updating-to-16-04-bluetooth-audio-a2dp-mode-stopped-working

no you're not. what distro are you using? what's the name/version of the BT card you have?

you should ask for help in /fglt/ on step-by-step procedure.

If I managed to get it working, so can you. I'm not technical at all and use Linux.

>Budget
200 usd max
>Location
California, Freedom Land
>Source
Fiio M3
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
Cloud II

Only problem now is latency.

Y/N?

I'm currently kinda set on over-ear Sennheiser Momentum Wireless (~200-300 Used, 400 New)

>Budget
200$
>Location
Norway
>Source
PC
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
Dont care that much
>Past headphones
Audio Technica m50

Do you need earphones that fit withing your budget for a V-shaped sound signature?

Then yes.

If you said no to any of that, probably still yes, but keep looking anyway.

What do you guys think about the MEElectronics Air-Fi Matrix2 AF62 headset?

What's your final boss of ultimate headphone quest?

Mine are these. After listening to dozens of cans at a high-end electronics store, I settled on these as the headphones I'll be saving money for. They sounded amazing and were super-light.

What's your dream headphone?

>Angled or standard?
>Pleather or sheepskin?
What are the best pads for these headphones?

They haven't been measured with any of those pads. Get whatever you find the most comfortable.

>What's your dream headphone?
None tbqh.

Got a pair for dt770's for listening at home for hours and hours and a pair of ath-m50x for mobile usage - they are not as comfy, but the foldable shit is quite nice

Best budget headphone earpods is the OnePlus Bullets V2 for $19.95.

Should I just keep the silica gel in my headphone case?

Can't be bad to keep shit dry, right?

Unless there's any leather in there, in which case it might desiccate it.

Just keep them in a cool, dry place and they'll last forever, gelpack or no.

Post measurements.

I'm not too comfortable talking about CSD plots myself. Something about them not showing any additional information on top of frequency response plot with minimum phase devices is what you're after right? How would you word it?

>cables
I figured this would be obvious but I guess it deserves its place there as you keep seeing the same bullshit online and cable vendors selling their snake oil are still alive.

>Cable conductor material has sound properties
"Gold cables sound warm"
"Silver is more detailed and transparent"

>Balanced audio gear have sound properties
"Balanced DACs have better instrument separation"
"Balanced amplifiers have better driver control and can drive headphones to their fullest potential"

>Sighted listening is a reliable way to establish claims about sound quality
"The reviewer said they had excellent detail retrieval and PRaT"
"This amplifier has some warmth to it. I know because I own it"
"The detail retrieval has significantly improved with this DAC"

I remembered a few others:

>Exclusive sound APIs or output modes have audible benefits
"ASIO and WASAPI have higher sound quality than DirectSound"
"Kernel streaming has the best detail"

>Damping factor relates to bass response and driver control
"The bass is muddy and congested because of the low damping factor"

>Amplifiers specifically alter low end response
"Smartphone just doesn't have enough juice to bring out the bass"

Maybe things about square waves and impedance, too?

>And preferably some citations to the contrary if you're trying to educate people.
This could work as audio myths FAQ with those added. Each point would easily fill more than one post's length if explained thoroughly though.

>Budget
US$300, less the better
>Location
US
>Source
Whatever is near me, typically a computer or a phone
>Type of headphone
ideally full sized, but noise cancelling
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfortable
>Sound signature
anything but mid-centric or too bright
>Past headphones
some pair of Bose earbuds. It was the older MIE2 ones. They had good bass, but they were uncomfortable after long periods of time. I'd like to have something with noise cancelling though. I was looking at the Bose QC25s, but I figured that Bose are the equivalent of Apple in the audio industry. I wanted to ask people that know more than I do.
Thanks

>Unless there's any leather in there
Well shit.

>Budget
$150 Maple syrup dollars

>Location
Canada, Ontario

>Source
Phone, Crap Chinese MP3 Player

>Type of headphone
Full Sized, for inbred sized ears

>Open or closed
Closed, these are for a work environment

>Comfort level
100% - These are going to be worn for 8 hours a day in an office. IDGAF wanking about audio quality, these just need to be comfortable for extended periods of time. I wear glasses, so something which won't press the frames painfully against my head would be nice.

>Past headphones
I've used an old pair of Steelseries Syberia 200's at work the last few years. That should give you an idea of how little I care about audio quality... The pads were just barely large enough to fit around my ears.

Impedance: 24Ω
Coil Material: Copper-clad aluminum
Diaphragm: Aryphan Polyarylate
Wire Core Material: Enamelled copper wire
Driver Unit: 9mm dynamic
Total Harmonic Distortion (THD):

Xiaomi piston 3.

Should I buy headphones or a dragon dildo?

There's nothing of value there in terms of sound quality.

I have no idea how to measure subjectivity.

Anyone tried Bluetooth receivers on nicer headphones with a removable cable?
Not for quality, more for Netflix in bed type stuff

>tfw you order $400 headphones/amp but you didn't get the proper rca cable to connect it to your pc because you thought you already had a cable and now you have to wait a whole day staring at your shiny new headphones

>Get whatever you find the most comfortable.
How am I supposed to know what's more comfortable? I'm asking because maybe someone fell for the M40x meme like me and has already replaced the pads.

>$400 headphones/amp
>Not using a proper external dac (modi2, fulla2, dragonfly red...), but a shitty motherboard line out.

-_-

modi is currently sold out on amazon so I just bought the magni for now

I thought I had one of those splitter things, but no

also, a dac is a dac.

>a proper external dac
>dragonfly red

user...

Anyone?

I listened to both, and I gotta say, these easily beat the HD600s when amplified well. Awesome soundstage and fantastic low end response. Quality isn't as bad as some say imo.

Best budget headphones coming through.

Schiit do sell directly from their website.

I'd suggest fulla2 over modi2... same dac, cheaper, more useful overall.

Oh wait, that's a sabre rather than delta sigma.

They're well received, but measure badly.

I haven't tested any myself, so can't say re: psychoacoustics.

it doesn't have rca out though

>I'd suggest fulla2 over modi2
this, MM stack is a meme, only required if you need the big chunk of extra power.

>How would you word it?
Something like this:
>Driver ringing at -36 dBFS for 3 ms is audible (while it's being masked by a complex signal)
SBAF is of course a goldmine for quotes on "speed"
"Faster more delineated treble."
superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-zenith-pmx2-redux-and-quick-impressions.60/#post-2140
"Treble was fast, refined and exquisite."
superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/stax-srs-2170-sr-207-earphone-system-measurements.3595
Zeos also made a review talking about how fast the Stax bass is (and how they're not headphones but "earspeakers"): youtube.com/watch?v=1l0EtAF_lEk

>Maybe things about square waves and impedance, too?
Square waves just show the same thing as the frequency response, so they aren't totally garbage as long as you don't pretend they show something else. You already covered the "higher impedance = harder to drive" meme in your previous post, but feel free to go on.

>This could work as audio myths FAQ with those added.
Might as well add it to the wiki then. The OP won't have room for it and spamming it in every single thread would just be obnoxious.

If your ears are touching the drivers, you should get some thick pads. They could help with the clamp too.

wtf is this 'multibit' meme?

really expensive dacs for audiocucks who don't realize that dac quality levels off at $300 MAX

>Do you have an amp? You could just EQ them.
EQ soundstage?

B-but there's modi2 multibit at less than $300.

MeeAudio M6 Pro

It's literally all you will ever need.

>$99 dac with $150 meme treatment

Yeah, just make a 3-5 dB dip between 1 kHz and 2 kHz. That should give you plenty of "soundstage".

Still, no explanation.

Wtf is multibit? Wtf are the different DAC technologies and their pros/cons?

wouldn't it be a better idea to get an audio interface so you have a dac for your headphones AND speakers?

>budget
50-100CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
phone and PC
>Type of Headphone
IEM, noise cancelling (active or passive)
>Comfort level
At least average.


I'm just looking for advice on some generally decent IEMs that will be good for blocking out as much noise as possible. At home I have opens, but at work I want something that will help me tune out the fucking people at my office without needing to fuck my hearing up with the volume. I realize closed over-ear is probably better for this, I just don't want a pair like that right now.

They should be just fine. Careful with a few of the superluxes though. Some of them need quite a bit of juice

>Budget
50-100€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Phone or mp3 player
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Quality over comfort
>Past headphones
Nothing, because I haven't used them at all on my phone.

I just want to listen to music on my daily commute, lasts roughly 1 hour and I'd want some nice IEMs for that, please help.

here

in a nutshell, the multiple "bits" are supposed to preserve original samples found in audio files. this are the same "bits" you hear about with 16 bit FLAC files. the idea is that the audio isn't simplified the way "normal" dacs do. however, there is little actual evidence beyond placebo that this sample preservation is noticeable at all.

here

Hd598cs is great but I think they're midcentric. Maybe try the sennheiser dj? They got more rolled off treble if I remember correctly from some YouTube video that compared them to source file...

Oh shit you wanted noise cancelling too? Meh. Just stick with Bose dude honestly. It seems you like the sound anyways and the comfort/build quality is very good

Oh, fuckin' great. I didn't think I'd find anything that cheap with detachable cables. Thanks.

Order placed, they'll be here tomorrow.

>Budget
$800-$1000
>Location
USA
>Source
1/4"
>Type of headphone
circumaural and open
>Comfort level
just fuck my skull up
>Past headphones
HD 600

Mfw I replied to one of the wrong comments
Mfw no greentext meme arrows
Mfw no face

I thought the recent batch had some problems, no?
Also, I listen to various range of music, from metal to synth, are these going to suit that?

Stax.
LCD2
Idk how much thx900 go for but those also seem kinda nice

>Budget
up to £70
>Location
UK
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very

Was trying to find ones with Bluetooth as well

Oh wat doih. Not open. Still stax and planar are still good to go

Edition X

What are these?

m50s

Autis M100

HD800s.

hd 600, she has good taste

buy her headphones now, the hd 600

...

>delineated
kek
>Treble was fast, refined and exquisite.
6moons tier
>Zeos
Can't put myself through this.

>feel free to go on
I'm out of ideas. Maybe some will pop up reading through this thread.

Fast and clean senpai.

I`m in a budget and deciding between these 2 any input?

M40x
Brainwavz HM5

pls respond

just buy them
they're 40€

>I listened to both, and I gotta say, these easily beat the HD600s when amplified well. Awesome soundstage and fantastic low end response. Quality isn't as bad as some say imo.
Not even close. HD600 wipes the floor with HE400i. They're not even in the same category IMO. You have to go way up in the HiFiman's line, say HE6, to beat HD600's. I know that sounds crazy but it's true. Just look at the graphs to dispel your biases.

what's a good europstan reseller that ships to the middle east

What about SoundMagic E10C?

M40x