Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.
Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price, or improve specs or build quality.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price. logicalincrements.com/
>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA
>Consider a G4560 instead of i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction. >Consider using an i5 6500/7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build. >Consider stock fan+heatsink for any locked CPU build without a Z mobo. >Consider a H110/B150 (UEFI needs update before installing a Kaby Lake CPU) or B250 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build. >Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build or even budget builds instead of a HDD. >The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050Ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB. >Do not buy CPU's before AyyMD memezen is released
If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with
REMINDER: Ryzen to be announced at GDC at the end of this month so you should wait before you buy until after 3rd party benchmarks are available.
Brody Lopez
Real thread
Ethan Thomas
your thread was made after this so no, this is the real one.
also your greentexts are written poorly.
Jacob Price
when should the CPU market "stabilize?" Will it take 1 month after Ryzen is released, or 6 months?
Henry Morris
Hello /pcbg/, I've saved $1500 for my entire rig and I need some help. Where should the rest of my money go towards? pcpartpicker.com/list/jWXpWX
Jayden Gutierrez
Jesus Christ, WTF
Jason Walker
start over and dont be retarded this time
Brandon Harris
Hear me out. I don't ever want to have to replace my mobo and ram, are they not good enough or something?
Nathan Moore
Not sure if trolling, but if you want to see some good example builds, check this thread Repost your build there and I'll help you
Gavin Brooks
That build can't use the monitor to its full potential.
Isaac Howard
Wasn't the 1050 ti really close to the 1060?
Wyatt Diaz
You need at least a 1070 for 1440p 144hz.
Andrew Martinez
Should I downgrade to the Celeron and cheap out on my PSU? I don't think I'll be able to fit it in my budget...
Jack Ward
Pirate windows that will save you a bit.
Eli Anderson
I guess you're serious, so I'll run the risk of biting the bait. Get an i3/i5 and a 1060/RX 480. Do you really think you need an 850W PSU for a 234W system? This is a serious question. Get a Benq GL2450. Get rid of the horrendously overpriced RAM.
Alexander Richardson
fuck off
no
you should stop being retarded and make a balanced build
pretty sure that's a bait but whatever. pcpartpicker.com/list/6dmKxY just a quick one. you can save some money by getting cheaper mobo, case and different gtx 1070 model. for 1440p 144hz an overclocked i5 and a 1070 is the MINIMUM
Ian Robinson
>still with that fucking RAM fuck off and never come back you massive tard
everyone stop replying to this guy
Caleb Turner
Did you not read my post? I can't spend more than $1500.
Alexander Jackson
Oh son I am dissapoint
Leo White
also pirate win10 or get a key from ebay fucking spending over 100$ for that piece of garbage. unless you're retarded then go ahead and get 30% less performance by downgrading to 1060.
Owen Cruz
stop feeding the troll
Angel Adams
Wow someone woke up angry today. I just wanted some help but I guess I'll just ask r/buildapc instead.
Charles Torres
i've seen that photo so many times and i'm only just now noticing the flex on that motherboard
Should have replied to the other thread. That neet has been shitting up the general for the past week or two
Adrian Long
wow samefag much? fuck off to your shitty thread then.
William Jackson
please do
Jayden Anderson
>helping obvious troll >thinks i've only been here a couple weeks >faggot trying to pull people to the thread he made after this like a pathetic attention whore stop fucking kek lad
Daniel Parker
I hate that I've just done this for an obvious troll, but might aswell just post it anyway...
Buy the Elite version of that case. Only $30 more.
Charles White
the one with better cooling
looks good, but you can get a nh-14d for $10 more which is quite a bit better
stop picking ram with heatsinks that stick up like tumours they serve no purpose
Dominic Russell
I can feel your autism pouring through the screen.
Dominic Garcia
Almost identical to my build, except for the steampunk cooler. Ditch it for something attractive.
Kayden Smith
>MUH A E S T H E T I C S it's just your own autism that's splashing on your screen
Colton Perez
>if you disagree with me, you're autistic
What an autist.
Ayden Allen
I'm neither of the people you were replying too and I'm not sure which one you think I am.
Adrian Richardson
bump
Connor Howard
This is my build Sup Forumsentlemen. pcpartpicker.com/list/Vkk7nn It's supposed to be a modest home pc for browsing, Openoffice, emulating, and torrenting movies. I plan on installing ubuntu so I don't have to pay for an os. My concerns are: -I'll be using my tv as a monitor, connecting via hdmi. Will the integrated graphics on my chip struggle with that? -Should I get a smaller ssd but add an hdd to get more storage overall for the same cost? I could keep the os and applications on the ssd and use the hdd for storing all my movies and shit -Never used linux before.
Jason James
I can't figure this one out, please help.
I have a GA-Z87X-UD3H with the PCIe 3.0 x16 slot populated with a GPU (obviously) and an SSD as main boot drive, which is getting pretty full. Due to reasons I can't add another drive in my case and while replacing the SSD with a bigger one is an option, I'm much more interested in getting a PCIe SSD instead.
It's quite embarrassing, but I just don't understand what the spec sheets are trying to tell me. The PCIe 3.0 slots share their lanes, so the SSD has to go in a PCIe 2.0 slot if I don't want to sacrifice fps.
So, when installing the SSD in the "PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4", what's the maximum bandwidth I can get out of it? Is it even worth compromising the airflow to the GPU?
Landon Clark
Don't most emulators only use two cores? You could get a G4560 and an RX 460 for your emulation needs.
Lincoln Jackson
Rate/advice please on my poorfag budget build. I can't stand to gayme on my 3 year old hp Wal-Mart laptop anymore and haven't had the spare change to build a half decent rig since I'm a neet with my only budget being autism bucks/disability. I have a 128gb 840 evo ssd in my laptop im going to use as the OS drive. I also will wait for ryzen to see if at that time I can do better with my cpu
There's absolutely no point in buying the old AMD stuff now.
Christopher Clark
For the record I only want to be able to watch movies and play games like Eve, SW:TOR then a lot of older steam games like natural selection 2, cs:s, sven coop, and other misc titles. Nothing super demanding but my hp laptop struggles with everything
Xavier Smith
That mobo doesn't even support RAM above DDR4 2400. What's the point? I know it'll work.
Asher Phillips
>Don't most emulators only use two cores? I have no idea but you might be totally right. I only picked that CPU because it was chosen for the build guide that I kinda based this off of. I'm already comfortable with the price so, if switching from the 4 core CPU would compromise performance in any way, I'd rather not. If it'd be cheaper, but more or less equal performance wise, I'm all for it.
John Price
What emulators are you using?
Lincoln Ward
What emulators are you going to be running? PCSX2 and Dolphin still benefit from really high clocks and they only use 2 cores. That i5 at 2.7 GHz may be too slow. The G4560 would be a better choice as user mentioned if emulation and office tasks are most important to you.
Josiah Allen
>dual channel vs single channel >same price >higher resell value >better performance if he ever gets a mobo that can use it
Camden Allen
the G4560 is 2 core 4 threads, it's basically an i3 for half the price and since none of the programs you are going to use it for even can use more than 4 threads, the higher single-core performance of the G4560 is a far better choice.
Was given the i7 for my birthday by an uncle who owns a computer store earlier this month.
So for another PC I won't be waiting for Ryzen, I'll wait for Vega.
Brody Wright
Alternatively you could go with the unlocked i3 7350k and a Z motherboard for a few more dollars than your i5 build and have the ability to overclock for even more single threaded performance if needed. This would be the best way to ensure your emulators don't hit slowdowns if that's important to you.
A dual core G3258 (unlocked 2c/2t pentium from ~2 generations back) could ultimately work well here too.
Jose Rivera
nice, only thing i'd change is remove HDD and use that money on a bigger SSD. it's easier to add more storage later than replacing your OS drive.
>unlocked i3 absolutely not worth it.
Dylan Morgan
Sound advice. Thank you.
I'm mostly interested in classic stuff like Snes all the way up to ps1. I suppose I might give dolphin a try some time but it's not a deal breaker.
Brandon Davis
>absolutely not worth it. Yes it is if you know what you need it for. The i3-7350k is the best CPU for PCSX2 ever. Hitting 5 or 5.1 GHz at Kaby Lake IPC puts it well ahead of any previous contenders as it's $60 cheaper than the 6600k and can reliably hit 3-500 MHz faster top clocks.
You should be fine with the G4560 then. The i5 you have selected above will not offer you any real benefits outside of productivity tasks or recent PC games.
Daniel Rogers
I don't know which monitor to get.
I have two Viewsonic 1080 LEDs already but I want to use one as a verticle display once I get this new one.
Getting at Zotac GTX 1080
Robert Morgan
what's wrong with atx form factor mobos?
Ian Harris
Is 2GB/s correct?
Daniel Clark
I just sold my gtx760, now I have to choose between gtx1060 and rx480 and my ass hurts. rx480 is ~15% cheaper that 1060 in my local stores, is there any reason to buy nvidia? I got used to shadowplay though.
John Lewis
rx480 is better, it's also more future proof. amd cards always get better with time which helps as well and freesync ftw. at least compared to the 1060
Caleb Martinez
if it was $40 cheaper i would agree, but not at the current price.
nothing, dont fall for the "lol xbox hueg ATX" meme
1440p@144hz 1-6ms
Read the specs for the drive instead.
>is there any reason to buy nvidia? only if you're a good goy and a brand fanboi.
Carson Morales
>Read the specs for the drive instead. The specs of the drive are irrelevant, the slot on the MB is the limiting factor.
>PCIe 2.0 ... per-lane throughput ... 500 MB/s so would be correct.
Aiden Stewart
Since building my pc a year ago I've upgraded the gpu, and soon thinking about upgrading the CPU, is it necessary to upgrade my Motherboard as well? Or are they good for a long time
Jordan Sanchez
>if it was $40 cheaper i would agree, but not at the current price. It's the absolute best at what it does. The price is fair considering the only budget option before this was a G3258 and that could really only hit 4.4-4.6 GHz, sometimes less, at Haswell IPC and was a true dual core. You get what you pay for with the 7350k if you know why you're buying it.
You only have 16 PCI-E lanes and your GPU is hogging all 16 of them right now. If you add in a PCI-E SSD it will force the GPU into running at x8 speed. Not a huge deal but just something to be aware of.
Yeah it's Relive. I have a 480 and I use Relive to record Overwatch play of the game snips to convert to gif. It works well.
Ian Brooks
yes, if your mobo can use PCI-e SSDs as boot drive.
Charles Sanchez
>converting to gif >not webm
Ayden Morgan
I don't think it can, at least not with the stock BIOS. I'd keep the sata SSD for the OS and instally my gaymes on the PCIe SSD. I have some pretty retarded load times in current games installed on an HDD.
Justin Roberts
>Even if it put it into the PCIe 2.0 slot? Yes, you still only have 16 lanes to work with. That's a function of the Z97 (and 87, and 77, and so on) chipset.
Can I ask why you can't add another SATA SSD? You just said because reasons lel.
Joseph King
that'll work
i also am curious about this
Carson Turner
I just want to reiterate that the difference between PCI-E 3.0 x16 and PCI-E 3.0 x8 barely fucking matters. See that link I posted above.
Charles Scott
i upload to giffy for discord
Jackson Rivera
Give me the quick rundown on B150 boards and why I shouldn't buy one.
Spoiler: I already bought one.
Daniel Baker
So, I might aswell put the fastest PCIe SSD I can find in the second PCIe 3.0 slot for full speed, alright, that helps a lot.
>Can I ask why you can't add another SATA SSD? I mounted a 5.25" optical drive, 2 3.5" drives and the 2.5" SSD in 3 5.25" bays, using bay extensions and a hacksaw. The space where the drivecage would go is occupied. So, outside of taping the SSD somewhere, I can't fit another drive in.
Isaac Murphy
1080p or 1440p @144hz?
Blake Harris
make webm and upload to pomf.cat and link instead. gif is dead.
you shouldnt buy b150 if you have a unlocked cpu or cant update bios to run kaby lake CPU
Adam Hernandez
How does this build look? Besides the CPU/Mobo/RAM, these parts are already part of my current build. I'm waiting for Ryzen, but unless Ryzen is godly, I want to go Intel (current build is AyyMD).
you should get a better case... almost all of the modern ones can mount 2.5" drives on flat surfaces (for example back of the mobo tray) to free up your drive bays.
Nolan Perez
>outside of taping the SSD somewhere, I can't fit another drive in
Honestly bro, if you have more SATA ports on the board available you should just buy some 3M double sided velcro stickers for like $1.99 and just let it rest on the floor or side of your case somewhere where it can get some airflow.
People were doing shit like this for years with SSDs without issue before cases really began to incorporate 2.5" slots all over the place. Probably not worth the hassle (and added cost) of dealing with PCI-E storage.
Dominic Lewis
replace HDD with SSD and the PSU with a Gold rated semi-modular for almost the same price like seasonic or evga
Oliver Johnson
imo 1080p
lower resolution means more frames, which you need at a higher refresh rate. go for 1440p if your build can handle it though.
I put together a little shitty APU build for only $250 that does everything you mentioned. IF playing old games, maybe even some newish ones is what you want you don't need to spend anymore than $300
Either of these monitors decent for the respective resolution/price?
Jeremiah Parker
>Win10
DOA
Hudson Walker
pcpartpicker.com/list/gHYqVY So I want to have a NH-D15 on my build, but the RAM i want is higher than the maximum clearance. The other option is the NH-D14, which doesnt do as good of a job cooling, but has a higher ram clearance. What do i do?
