Apple committing gpl violations when they use BSD code

>apple committing gpl violations when they use BSD code
>not putting mediatek or any other chink hardware vendor

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it makes sense that the face of communist power in the tech scene has to be a disgusting ogre who doesn't wash himself
still not seeing that GNU/iPad? where's my free hardware? i want to make free and open software, someone needs to give me the hardware to do it thanks

arduino is "free as in speech"

what the h*ck??? thats NOT ok
i should just be able to steal hardware from someone else who earned it.

why? that doesn't seem fair

it isn't, communism isn't fair

The only good commie is a dead commie.

but you were talking about stealing hardware, not communism

Communism /is/ stealing

This is bullshit - you're oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion.

Property /is/ theft

Nah, the lack of property rights leads to theft.

You /are/ retarded

>communism isn't fair because it isn't fair for the people who exploit labour, y'know they take risk and that's worth infinite profit duh so because it isn't fair for the bourgies then it's not fair for me!

this image is an oversimplification of the nature of capitalism; it is not merely a network of free associations, rather it is the coercion of labour-power by the systemic need to work in order to avoid a poor life or in some cases destitution and death

you guys get it

Nigger you're gonna make me bring out the hippity hoppity

read Proudhon

No it isn't and communism never worked, still doesn't and never will. You should get a job and stop being an autistic kid.

Read Smith.

Stop posting!

Fuck yeah!

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read Marx

>communism never worked
not an argument, Communism is by definition stateless, moneyless and without classes

>and stop being an autistic kid.
adhom

not an argument

Read Paul (Either one)

>it can work guise, we just need to try again
No. Communism is neat in theory but a disaster in practice.

Kys famicon

if I had a penny for every time I heard someone say this, I'd invest in stocks and shares and become a capitalist haha

stop parroting nonsense that you do not understand

genuinely interest, to whom are you referring to?

VIOLATING THE NAP SHOOT TO KILL

Gabitalism never worked either.

Capitalism produced moeshit anime. Capitalism is bad.

Yes it is an argument. Every single implementation of you shitty failed ideoligy resultet in a miserable failure and people starving to death.
>not my specific version of communism
This is not an argument.

Two of the greatest men to come out of Kentucky. Ron and Rand Paul, father and son, champions of freedom.

Oh, and quit spouting a kike's economical ideals.

>not a single successful communist state ever recorded by history yet autists will still argue that it's gon work

No, it didn't. Read Marx and you'll see that it wasn't actually communism.

>kike's economical ideals
The irony

every attempt at real-world communism has ended up in huge amounts of murdered civilians

Marx was only Jewish in theory.

Read who?

>Marx's specific, infallable version of communism would totally work
What is Tragedy of the Commons

Actually works, see real world.

>not muh specific version of communism
Not an argument. Your shit system is not viable, deal with it.

The Bolshevik Jew was the origin behind overthrowing the Czar and taking slow militant and economic control over Russia.

>not my specific version of communism
I never said this; one attempt at a formulation of an idea does not invalidate others anyway, learn logic

>not real socialism
when you show me the workers owning the MoP then I will be happy to admit 'real Socialism'

>Every single implementation of you shitty failed ideoligy resultet in a miserable failure and people starving to death.
as for the last part, Capitalism does exactly the same, but at a much larger scale each year on year

>not a single successful capitalist state even recorded by history yet autists will still argue it's gon work
t. feudal lord

funny that, Capitalism has too by its very nature; Communism does not have this by its very nature

something irrelevant

>What is Tragedy of the Commons
a THEORY
Are you americans really this stupid?

Something which capitalism doesn't prevent either.

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what about catalonia or the paris commune

>a THEORY
with examples including the USSR and the Peoples' Republic of China.

>real world
>actually works
Choose one.

Lenin didn't even KNOW he was Jewish.

>point out the tens millions of civilian deaths caused directly by communism in the 20th century
>BUT CAPITALISM DOES IT ALSO IN THEORY SO IT'S OKAY
commies show their true colors. they don't care about the victims of their ideology, but I think that was known to everyone already.

That's not what ``fully automated" means.

Here. I'll cut you a damned good bargain here. We abolish all regulations regarding money (The only thing holding either of the two extreme economic ideals back) and see which one lasts longer. You in your mud-hut commune or me in my mansion.

I wonder how your average AnCap retard would react if you told them Friedman advocated for a UBI. Their brains would probably explode from the sheer cognitive dissonance.

>tfw you fell for the positive vs negative rights meme

No, they're not.

How about we abolish ALL regulations entirely? Since that's what the ancap retards are calling for anyway. Let's see how long you get to keep your mansion in that case.

>Actually works, see real world.
Yeah, "works". DRM, non-free software, millions of wageslaves, jewish companies and banks that will do anything to take your jewgold and kill competition, your gov that ignores the environment, freedoms and rights of her people and helps giant corps instead.

I have little to no respect for previous 'Communist' states just as I have no respect for NK, do not try to paint me as a defender of these states, the people they killed etc. because I accept that it happened, I do not deny these atrocities

>We abolish all regulations regarding money (The only thing holding either of the two extreme economic ideals back)
this is false; socialism has nothing to do with money, redistributing money, or rich vs poor. it has nothing to do with monetary wealth whatsoever

>a formulation of an idea
Which has been implemented. Multiple times.
Which failed each and every time.
Each and every time the failure was blamed on either outside forces or because "it was not my specific version of communism".
This is how pathetic communists are. Learn logic yourself, retard. Also get a job you lazy NEET faggot, you're not getting my money.

>workers owning the MoP
Will never happen, one of the reasons is no controll and workers are incompetent for many tasks.

>Capitalism does exactly the same
No it doesn't. See real world.

Both had Communist revolutions (Bolshevik / CCP) and ended up having to form a government to keep from starving because humans will naturally take the path of least resistance.

>capitalism is somehow to blame for all problem in this world
Nice try. Not my problem you are a wageslave for a jewish company and can't afford non-free software and have to drink polluted water.

>problems in capitalist countries aren't caused by capitalism!
>problems in communist countries are caused by communism!
your cognitive dissonance is showing :^)

>famine
I can find some too
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Famine_(1740–41)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

If your Kike overlord is screwing you over in business, it's a violation of the NAP. Blast his ass to the next millenia.
If your Kike overlord is screwing you over by way of Bolshevik communism, it's a violation of the NAP. Blast his ass to the next millenia.

>Will never happen, one of the reasons is no controll and workers are incompetent for many tasks.

Worker co-ops exist, you fucking retard. Mondragon is the 7th largest corporation in Spain and is a co-op.

That's illegal under capitalism you retard.

It's illegal under government, you retard.
>Authoritarianism/Libertarianism is the same as Capitalism/Communism meme

So then capitalism is violating the NAP just as much as communism does.

Cronyism is violating the NAP as much as communism does. A trade rip-off you got jewed into is coercion, and thus a violation of the NAP.

>Not my problem you are a wageslave for a jewish company
I am not, but I know that it's not your problem and that you probably would not give a fuck about it. After all capitalists tend to not give a shit about the problems that do not affect them.

>and can't afford non-free
It's about freedom you dumb fuck, not money.

What does it mean then?

This isn't a capitalist problem. IF you wasn't a retarded double digit IQ tool or a lazy NEET you wouldn't be forced to live in a third world shit hole.

>Worker co-ops exist, you fucking retard. Mondragon is the 7th largest corporation in Spain and is a co-op.
>a single company evidence for successful communism
>7th largest in spain
>spain
>literally irrelevant company
Wow it's nothing. Does your company have a hirarchy? Does your company exist within a state? Yes? Guess it's not real communism according to your definition.

>It's about freedom you dumb fuck
You have no right to use property of another person for free, absolutely no right at all, you dumb fuck leech.

No human interaction required?

Exactly

That is near-impossible to accomplish in it's true form.
KIND OF LIKE COMMUNISM.
REALLY FIRES UP THOSE NEURONS.

why the heck are Sup Forums retards suddenly finding interest in coming to Sup Forums?


lets try and deter them

anime anime anime anime anime anime anime anime anime anime anime free software free software free software free software free software computers computers computers computers computers computers

>Each and every time the failure was blamed on either outside forces
read up on left-communism, I don't have time to defend failed states

>one of the reasons is no controll and workers are incompetent for many tasks.
did you know that managers are workers, too? so are engineers, architects, programmers etc.
also, why do you assume that someone who extracts profit is somehow more qualified to do a certain task competently?

>No it doesn't. See real world.
"nobody has ever died due to not having enough resources to get by under capitalism, nor has anyone been overworked to death nor have people died because of failing to find work nor have people died because they have been unable to secure sustenance due to being laid off"
wow

>capitalism is somehow to blame for all problem in this world
it's to blame for the problems caused by poverty, destitution and death resulting in lack of being able to find work or inability to work or overwork, furthermore the misery of those who work hard and are paid little

the NAP is a poorly thought out concept, read any serious literature about it

you don't like government? why support a system which inherently sets up two classes, one with dominion over the other? this form of coercion and force to work is in fact a violation of your precious NAP

ancap isn't anarchistic

>cronyism
there is no mechanism that prevents government-less captialism from turning into government capitalism, furthermore capitalism inherently carries exploitation with it, which is just one step removed from having a government to prop up capitalist interests

>IF you wasn't a retarded double digit IQ tool or a lazy NEET
ah, it's the "people who are intelligent and work hard are always rewarded" meme, haven't seen that in a while

>Does your company have a hirarchy? Does your company exist within a state?
co-ops aren't intended to be communism, rather a fairer way of organising labour

>Wow it's nothing. Does your company have a hirarchy? Does your company exist within a state? Yes? Guess it's not real communism according to your definition.

You literally tried to argue that worker's being in charge of the MoP will never happen, and I proved your idiotic statement wrong. I didn't mention a word about communism. Your goalpost shifting is amusing though.

Honestly at this point sending this to Sup Forums is like throwing a chunk of meat to the wolves.

>for free
Again, you dumb fuck, free software is not about money.
What on earth are you doing on Sup Forums

>property of another person
These are bits in my computer, asshat.

>absolutely no right at all
Who gives you the right to decide what people can do with bits stored in their hard drives? Faglord.

>58% say proprietary software is bad
Huh. I thought this place went to complete shit but I guess not. Now we just got to worry about gassing the other 42%.

>You have no right to use property of another person for free
neither does one have the right to use the personal property of someone obtained under duress of destitution, poverty or death, so why is it OK for the capitalist to force the worker to sell labour-time?

If cronyism "real capitalism", then what they have in USSR, PRC and DPRK isn't "real communism" either.

And no, being an idiot doesn't mean someone violated the NAP against you. The NAP is very strict in what it defines as aggression; if you agree to it, it's not a violation.

I browse Sup Forums and I'm watching gabdrop, LWA, and demi-chan at the moment (also rewatching cowboy bebop)

you don't have to be a no fun allowed asshole to know communism is absolutely retarded

It's not. The worker may happily quit, and SUSTENANCE FARM TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY.
If you were lied to, feel free to use any means necessary to get your wealth back.

Have you read your SICP?

It means the equipment is fully self maintaining at all levels. Until that point, technology only increases the productivity of humans, and does not lead to a long term decrease in employment - employment is held more or less constant and total productivity rises. Fully automated communism refers to the situation in which human labor ceases to become neccessary, at least for many fields of work. So it's not just factories without assembly line workers, but where the machines in those factories are able to repair and upgrade themselves without any human intervention.

Communism calls for a stateless society, not one without temporary voluntary hierarchies.

Reminder that most communists are unemployed gibsmedat libshits who don't understand economics, or Bolshevik Jewish shills.

No Konosuba and Maid dragon?

with what land? oh wait that's right it's all private property

naw, I'm not there yet
I didn't even finish the first season of Konosuba, but maid dragon I might watch when it's done airing

>You have no right to use property of another person for free, absolutely no right at all, you dumb fuck leech.
You have no right to deprive others of property simply because you somehow fooled yourself into believing you ``earned" it and that means you're entitled to it.

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Communism
>Fairy tale made up by some fat neet, championed by autistic faggots who have a hard on against successful people
Capitalism
>Flawed yet constantly in use & improving system

If full automation becomes reality, then we've truly reached the technological singularity.

To be fair, properly-made Russian blins are some of the best fuckin' pancakes I've ever tasted.

>read up on left-communism
>read up on X because i can't defend my failed ideology
Nice.

>did you know that managers are workers, too? so are engineers, architects, programmers etc.
Guess it's ok then for managers to go home with millions each year.
>also, why do you assume that someone who extracts profit is somehow more qualified to do a certain task competently?
If you mean shareholders by this. They give money to you for you to invest it into the company but expect profit in return. What's wrong with this?

>"nobody has ever died due to not having enough resources to get by under capitalism, nor has anyone been overworked to death nor have people died because of failing to find work nor have people died because they have been unable to secure sustenance due to being laid off"
People who legitimately cannot work get state aid, people who do not want to work simply deserve to die.
Qualified people who lose their job will find another, unqualified ones should not be unqualified in the first place.

>it's to blame for the problems caused by poverty, destitution and death resulting in lack of being able to find work or inability to work or overwork, furthermore the misery of those who work hard and are paid little
No. Capitalism is not to blame if beaner scum in mexico can't sustain itself or if niggers in africa are too retarded to live.
Wageslaves do not deserve the same payment than higher qualified workers, easy as that. Burgerflippers are just not worth the same as engineers.

>people who are intelligent and work hard are always rewarded
Yes, exactly this and you can't argue against it, nice to see.

>co-ops aren't intended to be communism, rather a fairer way of organising labour
So if it doesn't prove the point, why use it as "argument"?

>Communism
>>Fairy tale made up by some fat neet, championed by autistic faggots who have a hard on against successful people
>Capitalism
>>Flawed yet constantly in use & improving system
Seems like a comparison of Haskell/Scheme/etc against Java/C#/etc
(Java/C#/etc are all factually inferior)

>capitalism is evil by nature
How is something entirely based in voluntary acts of consent, evil by nature?
How then, you kike cock lickers, would communism be implemented? Without turning into a totalitarian dystopia of mass murder and starvation?

>there are actual communists on this board
Time to start the helicopters lads.

>If cronyism "real capitalism"
capitalism makes no stipulation at all about government, therefore a society with a government (and 'cronies') qualifies as 'real capitalism'; read up on the capitalist mode of production

>USSR, PRC and DPRK isn't "real communism" either.
communism is by definition stateless, therefore any state calling itself communist is lying, and any state calling itself socialist in which the MoP are not owned by the workers is also lying

read up on the definitions of all these things, before you post

>The worker may happily quit
false, under capitalism the worker is left with no choice but to sell his labour, thus his only choice is to quit or live a life of destitution

>SUSTENANCE FARM TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY.
if this were successful, people would do it, and it is a very poor life to live, especially in the case where there are more than enough resources to ensure that it does not happen

>if you agree to it, it's not a violation.
so if you twist my arm and tell me to suck your cock, and I agree out of duress, it's not a violation? no harm has occurred?

consent is a very flimsy concept and you must first define it, sorry.

>gibsmedat libshits
we are against liberalism

>who don't understand economics
read Marx

>Bolshevik Jewish shills.
jooooos

to add to that, simply inheriting or purchasing the property is no right to it, just as purchasing a stolen item still means that the item is stolen, the possession does not become legitimate.

>who have a hard on against successful people
yep, those sweatshop workers really have a hard on against successful people

>Flawed yet constantly in use & improving system
captilasm is inherently flawed due to the exploitation of labour and abandon for the environment in pursuit of profit, also its internal contradictions; read Marx and David Harvey

not an argument :^)

go back to your domreddit or whatever other alt-right shithole you crawled out of

>Again, you dumb fuck, free software is not about money.
Again, you have no right to it. Deal with it, retard.

>These are bits in my computer, asshat.
There bits are the product of another person that expects a payment from you to use those bits.
Pay or fuck off you autistic retard.

>Who gives you the right to decide what people can do with bits stored in their hard drives?
A person writes a programm, licences it and wants money for it. That person decides you don't get to use the programm without payment.
Accept it or fuck off, retard.