16 GiB of RAM is the minimum today

16 GiB of RAM is the minimum today.
There is no debating around it.

I’m on a 16 GiB machine and For only browsing Sup Forums it uses 8 GiB.

For browsing I mean I have every thread open in a separate tab in chrome with the auto image expander plug-in that immediately gives me full sized images.

Its the only way to brows.
You jump from tab to tab and instantly see all fully loaded images.
Using only one tab is self torture.
My time and satisfaction is more precious then the cost of some RAM sticks.

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chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/Sup
dell.com/us/business/p/precision-t7910-workstation/pd?oc=cup7910w7p_4&model_id=precision-t7910-workstation
searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/tiered-storage
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

using an 8 gig laptop right now

thought about upgrading to 16 but i have about 50 tabs open right now and I'm not even using half, like 3.5 gb

don't see the need to upgrade desu senpai

>You jump from tab to tab and instantly see all fully loaded images.
>Using only one tab is self torture.

8gb with an SSD is fine for shitposting duty

What web browser?
What websites do you have in your tabs.
Chrome is terrible.
The only reason I use it occasionally for Sup Forums is if I need to see all full sized images in a thread.

Only chrom has this plug-in.
And I'm using chromium because fuck google.

Check out my stats no joke.

I am using chrome, I have about 10 chan tabs open, about 10 okcupid tabs open, email, sms via web open, 5 indeed.com tabs open and about 20 porn spankbang/xvideo tabs open

everything is fast and instant to navigate

also I have a few firefox tabs open for reasons

Really?

I don't see major difference.
I use XFCE and IDE for programming while listening to youtube music with opened around 3-4 tabs and 3-4 tab of Sup Forums and telegram running incase my gf is not bitching about I don't have a time for her.

My RAM usage is around 2.7GB MAX of 4GB.

Prove me why would I listen you if everything works fine and I don't play gaymes anymore.No time for that bullshit especially for gf meme.

Yes if you only brows one page you can even use a 2000 computer.

I'm saying chrom is this level of shit that it bloats instantly.
Also a lot of full sized images make a massive impact.

>Also a lot of full sized images make a massive impact.

bro I have literally 50 tabs open using 3.5 gb of ram and images are not an issue

what is wrong with your computer if you are even bringing up "full size images"

OP take half the ram out of your computer and see if you notice much difference

i bet you wont when just browsing and shit

Do a test for me can you.
Get
chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/Sup Forums-image-expander-save/ggomljifiniejngdniedfkabakfipbkm
This plug-in for chrom.

Go to
Open every thread in there in a new tab and expand all images in every tab.

See if the computer will even be usable or not massively lag.

Mine works silky smooth.

that would have far more to do with your internet speed than the RAM in your PC you dummy

also an SSD pagefile is pretty fast for just photos and shit

In case I am not lying.

Two 1080p videos are loading and three Sup Forums page that I need.

You got me OP.

I don't have needs like that so it works in my work machine with 4gb ram.

LOL no.
I'm talking about the computer becoming unresponsive(this lag not INTERNET lag).
Not internet lag.
Of course it will take time for the images to download however after they do you can see.

I have a HDD and RAM is always faster then a SSD.
So better get more RAM.

>Using only one tab is self torture
I dunno, I don't have that many tabs, every time I get bored of thread I just close the tab.

>I’m on a 16 GiB machine and For only browsing Sup Forums it uses 8 GiB.

You have a shitty computer with problems, and using Chrome is just one of them along with your idiotic browsing methodology.

You're also a stupid fucking person.

>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all

Can I see the htop output or some resource monitor?

decent desktop you have
What's the theme?
How taskbar is vertical?

>I'm talking about the computer becoming unresponsive(this lag not INTERNET lag).

I am telling you 8gb is fine and my computer is not unresponsive and I have multiple tabs with partially loaded 100mb porn vids in them and god knows what else open and I am streaming netflix in the background

no lag

I am currently using 4.5 gb of ram

do you have an SSD hard drive?

>OH GOD MY EYES
>not even using Sup Forums with HTTPS
>GTFO you idiot

>>OH GOD MY EYES
wtf?

>triying this hard to justify being a cuck

>I have a HDD and RAM is always faster then a SSD.

this is where you are fucked up, you need an SSD, yes RAM is faster than SATA however you are having to make up for not having an SSD with all that ram

trust me, you need an SSD and you are wrong about our computers being laggy

I have a good job and could load up on ram on a whim if I felt like it, but I don't need it my computer is super responsive with 8gb and me abusing it by keeping 50 tabs open and just clicking restore tabs every time i restart

Mmm, yes, very interesting.

>Can I see the htop output or some resource monitor?

do you not see where it shows how much RAM he is using?

You can see in screenfetch ram usage that should be enough for you.

Here you go it is lower usage and you can see in network tabs that I am running three youtube videos in 1080p and Netbeans IDE.

Good for you.
Use what works for you :D.

If you have 5~9 windows opened 4 GiB is god.
Also getting anything else then chrom works miracles.

I'm simply addicted to the instant browsing of images and only mother fucking RAM bloat chrom has this plugin.

You really need to give it a try, while other pages load in separate tabs you can instantly brows full resolution images with no loading time.


Also you all need to try this out, instant browsing of images, its heaven.

i've tried it, i don;t like every shitbox frog image displayed in full res, it fucks up the thread, ill click on what i want to see

Wanted to have process count for completeness.
All running process and all the jazz.

Was only interested.
I did see RAM usage.

>I have a HDD

2017

stop bragging about your ram if you are not using an SSD boot disk

I use Raleigh and etude.
I made vertical taskbar in panel options.
I made it visible for OP so he can see I am running other programs.

>your idiotic browsing methodology
pleb.
>muh only use one tab browsing
>muh wait minutes for images to expend to full size
>muh waiting for things to load
You are literally cancer.
>No one will need more than 637 kB of memory for a personal computer
Kill yourself.

>>muh wait minutes for images to expend to full size

why do you think low RAM and not your internet connection would cause images to take minutes to load?

Well if that is your need I am not in position to say anything.

I am fine with 4gb ram and chrome is known for being bloatware.

buy an ssd faggot

seriously you don't know what you are talking about

nobody is saying anything except that 16gb is overkill for browsing, and that is true

Na.
SSD is only a cheap fix.
Not dumping RAM to memory is the superior option.

I rather get more RAM then a SSD.
Also doing this will kill your SSD faster, while RAM is practically eternal and has life time warranty.

>SSD is only a cheap fix.

it's the solution

not a cheap fix, you are wrong about assuming an SSD equipped PC cant be very snappy with as low as 4gb of ram and shitloads of tabs open

>I do retarded nonsense shit, therefore 16GB is the minimum for everyone
Go be a sped somewhere else

Why are you even here you subhuman piece of shit

>50 tabs
Of what?

I can open 100 tabs of short text and not go over 2GiB on some relic of a computer with ancient browser.

Do my test.
No seriously I want you to test your system and see if really your configuration with a SSD + 8GiB will work.

Nah, I would say 8GB is the minimum

16 is good to have if you're a developer with multiple instances of VS and SQL Server and whatnot

The output is real.
So my OS is a cuck?

tabs
>Of what?

see:

I just "restore tabs" when I reboot my personal computer and leave the porn in the background till i feel like watching it, i do this for months on end and my computer is very snappy

8core cpu, SSD, 8gb ram

Can anons even count above 3?
I did tell you to open all threads in separate tabs on /wg/ not 2 tabs only.

>Do random shit that nobody does for the sole purpose of stressing ram
Why not just run a forkbomb?

>No seriously I want you to test your system and see if really your configuration with a SSD + 8GiB will work.

what is your test

my pc works fine for my needs even when i abuse it

If I tell you to kill yourself will you do it

SSd are shit.
I rather have more storage + instant responsiveness for less money.

>SSd are shit.

if you say so, but you are wrong

I have an SSD to boot and a terabyte hdd for saved media

the SSD is the best upgrade I have ever made for the money

>not being able to figure out how to use a boot drive and either NAS or an HDD

2017

Yes however its the internet.
And if you already opened threads in new tabs they can get preloaded.
Also your internet speed means shit if the other server is not sending in time or is limiting output.

Here is where uforing works and this translates to opening every peace in a new tab.

>I rather have more storage + instant responsiveness for less money.

good ssds are cheap now bro

>Yes however its the internet.
>And if you already opened threads in new tabs they can get preloaded.
>Also your internet speed means shit if the other server is not sending in time or is limiting output.

you really don't know what you are talking about

i bet you are 17

congrats on having a fucked up system that uses 8gb of ram to browse the net

>nobody is saying anything except that 16gb is overkill for browsing, and that is true
Except I'm literally having the OS report to me that it uses 8GiB now.
With a good browsing session opened.

Also do the test.

>Except I'm literally having the OS report to me that it uses 8GiB now.

something is wrong with your shit

>I do retarded nonsense
Like using a graphical web browser?
How about a GUI?
Go back to your text terminal and only writing in vim.
While I do retarded shit like using web browsers and multitabing.

if you have lower than 128gb ram you are a pleb

>what is your test
Ah glad to have a intelligent person between the shit posting.

Here is my test

>Why not just run a forkbomb?
A forkbomb dose not allow me to fap if I want to fast brows all pictures on /s/ with no interruptions.

8gb (or even 4gb) is fine for most users

>8GB is the minimum
Kind of true.
I like to have a load of free RAM if something decides to take more RAM.

If you go over the 8GiB you will have a bad time.

Running Firefox with 10 tabs open

What's everyone obsessions with having so much RAM? I had 16GB just because sometimes I need to run multiple desktops, other than that it never goes beyond 8GB for browsing or even gaymes.

too much is the same as not enough

>I'm to retarded to understand how Internet network connections work
>I got so butt blasted with facts I'm going to ignore your points and shitpost about yours stem wasting RAM in a desperate attempt to divert attention from my fucking up about the communications speeds being determined by both server and client.

>What's everyone obsessions with having so much RAM? I had 16GB just because sometimes I need to run multiple desktops, other than that it never goes beyond 8GB for browsing or even gaymes.

if you are booting from an old style spinning HDD it's the only way to make up for the lack of speed

most people have moved on though

>>I'm to retarded to understand how Internet network connections work

you are the one saying your ram makes downloading photos load faster

>gaymes
No gaymen today will ever go over 4GiB do to geymers having shit systems with tiny RAM modules.

>run multiple desktops
Literally no impact on ram its on the same level like having multiple terminals opened or opening a load of folders in separate windows.
you run out of PIDs before you run out of RAM.

>>run multiple desktops
>Literally no impact on ram

you are literally retarded

>I’m on a 16 GiB machine and For only browsing Sup Forums it uses 8 GiB.
>I don't know how caching works.
>Sup Forums
kys please

>What's everyone obsessions with having so much RAM?

For years I was stuck on a 32 bit system with the max of 4GiB RAM do to the fact that I'm a greedy jew.
And waited for years to get my new 64bit computer with the max of 32 GiB of RAM.

For years I did have the browser chock on itself when there was to much RAM used.
Now this never happens and I'm happy.
And making threads to post my satisfaction of having 16GiB or RAM.

16GB would be useful for VM and such

1) you wrote that internet speed will make photos load faster.
Explain how this is possibly if the server is shit and limits uploads.
Want me to give you examples of modern servers who pull this shit?
Or do you admit you fucked up hard?

2)
>you are the one saying your ram makes downloading photos load faster
Bullshit.
If you open 2 tabs and both tabs are opening full photos after you finish browsing tab 1 every photo in tab 2 has loaded.

Is this to difficult for you?
Now tabs cost RAM and this is where more ram helps with more tabs.
Got it?

>max of 32 GiB
Why not 256 GiB of RAM, or a TiB?

Are you talking about Virtual desktops?
You know the CTRL+ALT+Right_arrow shit?
This literally costs nothing.

Or what?
VM?
If you did say Virtual machines then its a different subject.

>caching
>I like to wait minutes for a response time
>No one needs fast computer experience
>I think I'm smart
Euthanise yourself.

True.

>Why not 256 GiB of RAM, or a TiB?
1) They don't sell these computers(not fucken servers you sysadmin fuck) when I got mine.

2) I'm a greedy jew

3) Do to (2) I got a computer with 32 max (max at that time) and installed 16GiB with 2 more slots for 16GiB more. This way i max out the RAM without throwing away RAM sticks.

4) See I'm a greedy jew

>They don't sell these computers(not fucken servers you sysadmin fuck)
Should've checked dell.com
They sell desktop workstations with 256 GiB :)

It was 2 years ago.
can you link to their best offers?

Also I did do a entire chart of price efficiency to cost ratio.

You simply underestimate how greedy of a jew I am.

You could buy workstations with 512 GiB two years ago.
Just saying that 32 GiB hasn't been the maximum for a long time.

I use one 8gb stick because I'm poor.

Only thing I can't do is run Rust since that shit eats 6+Gb.

>YOU HAVE TO HAVE 16GB OF RAM OR YOUR SURFING WILL BE SLOW
>everyone points out this is not true, from experience
>IM STILL RIGHT

idiot

Link plz.
I'm browsing dell.com and I only see 16GiB machines
I was never about maxing out the RAM.
It was a complicated price to output over time analysis.
This is why i did not get a SSD, getting 16GiB was cheaper so i did it.

Le happy user is me.

>This is why i did not get a SSD, getting 16GiB was cheaper so i did it.

you chose poorly

poorfag

>only one way to use computers exists AAAAAAAAAAAAAND THAAAAAAATS MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE


The sooner you kill yourself the sooner the world becomes a better place.

If you define waiting for images to load not to be torture and a wast of time.
Sure knock yourself out.

>If you define waiting for images to load not to be torture and a wast of time.

the time it takes images to load is related to your network speed, not how much ram you have

unless you are using such a slow HDD that the HDD write speed has become the bottleneck....

>I'm browsing dell.com and I only see 16GiB machines
Right here.
dell.com/us/business/p/precision-t7910-workstation/pd?oc=cup7910w7p_4&model_id=precision-t7910-workstation

You can upgrade it to 1 TiB of RAM.

>poorfag
I'm a greed fag RAM is faster and will never die on me (lifetime warranty).
So getting this ram was the optimal solution to maximize output needed with price minimization.

I simply got the biggest bang for my buck and I'm happy.
Also I have a lifetime scenario for my machine.
Where I will replace it with a system in 2019 that must have a minimum of max 256 or 512 GiB RAM and the RAM modules need to be configured So that I don't throw away RAM and only add until I get the max.

PlZ get on my level and join me in /merchant/

RAM and the hard drive are different things but work together

you have blown out your ram and ignored your hard drive, your system is not balanced in a modern way

save up for an SSD and and then you will see

your logic is "I did this so it was the best possible thing" But I am telling you as someone who assembles computers and workstations for pro business use that using a spinning HD and a shitload of ram is not the making of a balanced smart system.

you would have been better off with 8gb of ram and a small boot SSD in terms of how snappy the box feels

searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/tiered-storage

I explained this.
in
Also you fail networking forever.
Get off Sup Forums or explain how you can get something faster if the server is limiting you in the speed it sends to you.

Explain this gentoman to me.

>Get off Sup Forums or explain how you can get something faster if the server is limiting you in the speed it sends to you.

the server is rarely the limiting factor in real world situations on major websites like Sup Forums

there is no reason to even bring it up

regardless, if Sup Forums is serving up images slowly all your ram wont make it faster

>your logic is "I did this so it was the best possible thing" But I am telling you as someone who assembles computers and workstations for pro business use that using a spinning HD and a shitload of ram is not the making of a balanced smart system.
>you would have been better off with 8gb of ram and a small boot SSD in terms of how snappy the box feels

this

learn to admit when you are wrong op

Interesting yet I did a cost to output analysis.
Do you do this for your computers?

My calculations (might be flawed they are only on paper after all) showed a imbalanced system is better.
Also the more esoteric things where calculated
SSD + HDD costs more
SSD will die do to use RAM is immortal.

I'm also waiting for this dell link of the 256 GiB workstation.
I think its not showing it to me because I live in greedy jew land so I only get the cheapest options.

you have fallen for the SSD MEME try to run your entire system on RAM only, literally load the OS into RAM with no SSD/HDD parts.

And then tell me how snappy SSDs are.

>SSD will die do to use

HDDs will die due to use faster than a modern SSD

christ you are new

>you have fallen for the SSD MEME try to run your entire system on RAM only, literally load the OS into RAM with no SSD/HDD parts.

now you are just changing the subject entirely

>>Get off Sup Forums or explain how you can get something faster if the server is limiting you in the speed it sends to you.

>Literally can not dig himself out of this disaster.
>B-b-b-b-b Sup Forums is not limiting its speed

And Sup Forums is not the Internet.
You dun goofed user.

>mfw 40 tabs opened and i still use photoshop abelton zbrush

lol?

Well RAM usage is out of control these days, but it's an efficiency issue and nothing else, owed both to browsers and the use websites make of it.

If you were to code a dedicated imageboard browser with native GUI, it'd eat barely 20MB RAM to actively display a thread with thumbnails, could cache hundreds ready to be displayed, and require mere MB to keep and update thousands.

But with a modern browser and javascript everywhere, don't count on it.

No I did do it on my machine.
Did you?

With no baseline comparison you can not say how snappy SSDs are VS pure RAM.
You want snappy? Get a fuck tone of RAM load the OS into RAM only and try it out.

If you ever try pure RAM you are never going back.
Literally the consequences will never be the same, everything changes, literally everything.

>Be me
>Decide to create a VM
>Take RAM only system
>Download iso (is in RAM)
>Create VM (in ram)
>installing OS on the VM
>RAM2RAM literally the installation is instantaneous
>Only limiting factor is how fast you can click NEXT, NEXT, Time zone, keyboard layout, computer name, user name, password
>write this VM to the HDD
>Finished

True.
Do you know a way to make
>with native GUI
on 4 chan?