It's like what that Dan Luu guy said, "HN comments are terrible. On any topic I’m informed about, the vast majority of comments are pretty clearly wrong."
Why the fuck would you complain about HN here of all places?
Carter Myers
Meh.
Dominic Martinez
Every forum goes through this decline. Believe it or not, at one point Slashdot actually had good comments.
I'm still looking for a decent replacement. lobste.rs looked promising, but seems to be dying off now. It might be time to just give up on comments and go back to RSS.
Mason Reyes
If you want quality and expertise, the only option is stackexchange sites. Reddit has been really bad for some time because of the ads.
Oliver Sanders
1. Shitty topics have shitty comments. Having said that 99% of HN articles are trash. 2. Their comment ranking is not optimal. Highly upvoted replies can push shitty comments up.
William Russell
The C++ Programming Language is garbage that tried to be what K&R is but failed completely. I couldn't bear it either.
Jace Richardson
Damnit Pajeet, just shut up.
Easton Gomez
It's a shit site run by jews and SJWs.
Nathan Flores
>It seems the quality of discussions have really gone down lately.
It really hasn't. It's the same as it has always been.
It's the same as with people saying Sup Forums is worse nowadays... but they always say that, and it's always the same. I was gone from Sup Forums for 2 years, and when I got back, it was the exact same threads.
Andrew Clark
>news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13659159 To be honest I was more appaled by the highly upvoted suggestion that one can learn C++ by reading Stack Overflow.
Caleb Collins
Also written by Pajeet.
Colton Baker
Not wrong, discussing controversial stuff like COC is not allowed.
Elijah Mitchell
>remember when Sup Forums was good
James Brooks
Sup Forums has fallen to pieces HN finally starting to crumble /r/programming is a joke lobste.rs is just HN junior but without the corrective rudder of business sense Dr. Dobb's is dead
>lately That's where you are mistaken lad. Internet forums have never been good.
Justin Turner
/thread
Michael Stewart
remember the push from faceberg to get more indians connected to the internet? yeah....
Thomas Reed
fuck that's funny
Benjamin Fisher
Remember how quora was and is still ruined by Pajeets? Pajeets, not even once.
Aiden Sanders
fpbp
Tyler Ortiz
>HN Full of morons and shills. And pro-government types.
Don't believe any of it -- they brigade support for highly unreasonable positions to make lurkers think the world is made of liberal cheese.
Jaxson Carter
Thread closed, duplicate of this 4 year old, unanswered thread.
* post edited by Mr. Pajeet.
Dominic Hall
All /r/enter_your_programming_interest and HN are bad and full of negative energy. Steer clear. This place included.
David Watson
Very specific subreddit is the way to go. /r/cpp for example is filled with experts and bigger names in C++. Discussing C++ at HN is just inviting Rust cultists.
Interestingly, Go is finding much more success in mainstream adoption than Rust, considering Rust' rabid fanbase.
Gavin Garcia
Slashdot
Gabriel Torres
Any idea how to get a lobste.rs invite?
Jonathan Gray
To be fair, Bjorn's book is utter shit. It's more like a Phone book rather than a good book to learn.
Adrian Jackson
If you look up comments from years ago they were much better, problem with HN is it's too popular now. Good example is the who's hiring thread it used to be around 200 entries or so of just bay area startups, now it's 800+ recruiters and other bullshit.
Isaac Morgan
specifically the grad level stackoverflow's are the best, like theoretical compsci or math.
Chase Watson
if we tell you then lobste.rs just gets filled with shitty comments like HN
Parker Nguyen
I sometimes wonder, is it just because mathematicians got so much free time. /r/math, math stackexchange, math overfloww, are all filled with experts and have quality discussions.
Jordan Thompson
That's not a HN thing. It's an internet in whole thing. It used to be only universities, then it used to be only computer nerds, then it used to be normies. Now it's the fucking small kids too. It's why youtube is 90% gaymers baiting kids to their gayming videos.
Justin Cruz
It's a fucking reference book, Pajeet.
Oliver James
Recently too much politics and workplace politics. The asshurt about Peter thiel is hilarious.
Easton Carter
Are you literally stupid Sup Forumstard? The meme is that it's a good book. It's utterly useless in the age of the internet. In case you missed the class in school, almost nobody had internet when he wrote C++.
Nicholas Cruz
they're usually grad students, and grad students get paid to do research so often they are sitting on SO reading replies as part as research.
My CMU slides for 'advanced algorithms' recommended going on SO in specific bases to talk to other grad students when needing experts in math analysis or category theory ect.
Joseph Richardson
Bait. But just in case, the teaching book by Bjarne is "Programming: Principles and Practice Using C++". "The C++ Programming Language" is a fucking reference book.
Eli Russell
>implying CS people knows math Just because the pioneers of CS were mathematician and know real math doesn't mean modern CS is math.
Wyatt Lopez
Fine, I was referring to the spergstation that claimed the reference book is good. It's not entirely his fault of course, *IT IS* a meme that is a good learning book too and I had done the mistake to borrow it (luckily not buy it) once. I guess it was an old meme from the age of no internet at all. Now references are simply useless. Just google it.
Robert Sullivan
>*IT IS* a meme that is a good learning book No it's not.
Jayden Adams
That's why they go on SO and ask information from category theorists ect. Your post is perfect for HN or Reddit where somebody purposely misreads the OP, just to cram in some off-topic talking points they wish to message forum lawyer with, while larping as an expert.
Good thing about SO/exchange is there are actual verified experts there instead of larpers on HN or here/plebbits
Lincoln Jenkins
>That's why they go on SO and ask information from category theorists ect. Because they don't know the math? And like to forced the math into their writing to somehow legitimize it.
Jaxson Rivera
Weak second attempt to derail the thread with your talking points, the first was a decent try. HN would totally take this bait though try there.
Parker Smith
>Interestingly, Go is finding much more success in mainstream adoption than Rust, considering Rust' rabid fanbase. >Actual system programming is in much lower demand than meme web programmering.
Who would have guessed.
Christian Cooper
HN is about 75% corporate shills.
It is not hacker discussion, because true hackers are typically anti-corporate and support openness.
HN is corporate shills and includes many Microsoft employees.
Ever notice how often people push VS Code? They act like you're not even allowed to mention Vim in VS Code threads, but "I recently switched to VS Code" is the top comment in every thread about any other editor.
Nicholas Gutierrez
I've always used stack exchange when looking for a quick fix when programming or some *nix problem. I've just recently created an account and started posting questions I can't find an answer to and helping answer questions new friends have about programming. The stack exchange websites are actually very well done and moderated at as far as I can tell.
Jose Johnson
>lobste.rs didnt knew about this one, thanks
Mason Powell
I can be wrong, but isn't Rust marketed as a system programming language?
Matthew Hughes
yes, but you need to put everything in unsafe blocks to do anything systems related, so you might as well use C.
Nathan Rivera
>HN is about 75% corporate shills.
I don't even think you can call them shills, because everyone knows HN is a gathering place for the industry people, and most of them don't hide it.
Hell, it's partly what makes it interesting.
Christopher Gonzalez
Yes. I was hitting as golang as the meme web server "system" programming language that it is.
Christian Parker
VS code is really good tho.
Nolan Thompson
this, but has a point
Jordan Fisher
If you're a cuck.
According to stackoverflow only about 7% of devs use it, yet on HN they act like it's used as much as Sublime and Vim.
Aaron Walker
I can see it being appealing on windows where you have a worthless fucking shell and everything needs to be a gui in order to be productive, but not on linux, it tries to replace at least 10 cli programs into one monolithic mess.
Matthew Martin
That book is really shitty. First i rented it from library as it can help me at brogramming classes. At home i saw nothing but brainfuck and bullshit.
What's a good android app for hackernews? I tried finding one a few months ago but couldn't.
What do you boys use?
Justin Turner
Stock browser.
Gabriel Reed
Yarn
Camden Hernandez
Nice
Jaxon Green
The browser.
Grayson Thomas
Uc browser
Samuel King
Gross. Thanks for the responses but some websites aren't great to begin with let alone on a mobile.
This is better than anything I came across in the past. Thanks user.
Aaron Roberts
hn is just old ass it retards who think standing up a server means you're a hacker. Most of them have no real programming experience
William Morris
there are moslty good, the amount of vc, meme startup guys or senior devs is awesome, much better then hugbox or this place . But sadly there are a lot of sjw, leftist and meme American culture.
Jaxson Barnes
wow i didn't know that feminist can butthurt so much over meritocracy it is absolute maddens, becouse over the screen being women gay trans doesn't fucking matter.
Angel Wright
kek
Jace Cook
Kek, same. Left for 3 years and come back to the same exact board. Only difference is there's 500% more templeos threads and the board is 3 times slower
Justin Howard
>lately Who could've predicted that a community of Silicon Valley techbros would turn out awful?
Oliver Campbell
lol it's basically a kind of reddit for tech guys.
From time to time you get fucking cnn and bbc articles for fuck sakes.
Not to mention the upcoming climate apocalypse
Austin Jones
You know that "My Strange Year At Uber" article? I've been thinking about it recently, and I've come to the conclusion that the object less for bad companies* is to not put women in the trenches. The massive amount of men in SV Tech means a lot of white knights who will fight the power to save a woman. However, NOBODY in SV would give a fuck if it was 50 low-status males starving to death and being raped by Hitler cosplayers every week. This is my thought god bless america.
*all great companies are bad companies
Henry Hill
>tfw Hiro fucked the Sup Forums server and you can't start a new thread
Jason Perez
fyi COC was written by a white tranny who became successful as a man before transitioning
David Wright
imagine what sort of shit you could stir up by writing similar articles pretending to be a woman who left certain major tech companies a few months back with vague references to sexism.
this sort of stuff is all just taken as gospel at face value because "muh women in muh stem"
Ian Lee
>The best place to master c++ is StackOverflow
Evan Powell
It really is. Even the cases where it's been disproven or shown to be of questionable veracity at least, it's too late. Just look at how Github transformed after its little sexism debacle.