>Ryzen chips with the slowest Single-Core speed is faster than Intel chips with the fasted Single-Core speed
Intel better come up with something...
Ryzen chips with the slowest Single-Core speed is faster than Intel chips with the fasted Single-Core speed
Jason Bennett
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Alexander Fisher
Yeah and unless they also cut prices Intel is pretty much done.
Wyatt Price
They're in a state of panic because they can't keep pumping out poor to none improved chips at three times the premium
Jacob Lewis
>Intel better come up with something...
They don't have to. They have all the OEM contracts, AMD has none, and they won't be able to get any new ones either as long as their portfolio is 3-4 desktop cpus.
They need to cover low, mid, and high range, plus server chips, and mobile chips, for OEMs to even CONSIDER using them.
Dylan Johnson
Theres something that I don't quite understand.
Cycle for cycle comparisons don't really make sense because how the work they do within a cycle is drastically different. You can have reallllly old 3.0ghz from the 2000s and compare them to 3.0ghz processors from today and realize that new ones are far superior. The clock speed didn't change, but how the processor works did.
Given that in consideration, as much as I want jewtel to die and for there to no longer be a monopoly, shouldn't the comparison be of the processors at their base clock speed and not overclock/underclock the processors to operate at the same frequency?
If the processors are similar enough, then I suppose comparing it via similar clock speeds is fine, but what I really want to know is maximum performance.
A maximally overclocked ryzen vs a maximally overclocked 7700k would be the best comparison I would think, and not similar clock speed comparisons.
God I hope AMD comes through for once.. please make the jews stop.
Ian Rodriguez
They have those, they're just not being sold yet. Because you know, paper launches usually don't go well, and they probably already have their hands full as it stands.
Sebastian Harris
What the fuck is wrong with you retard, did you not even bother reading the op image?
Brandon Thomas
I'm a fan of AMD, but this.
AMD will get a market in the builder's scene and a small gain in desktops, but nowhere else.
Hunter Bailey
stock ryzen comes clocked lower than stock i7s.
The image shows the ryzen 7 going to 4.5ghz. The i7s can literally easily get into the 5.0+ ghz range.
If the maximum of the ryzen was 4.5ghz, then intel wins again because intel can be clocked higher and perform better.
Average Sup Forums user amirite. Calling people retard when you can't read
Ryder Morris
but that's not the 1700, which is actually slow
Camden White
>The i7s can literally easily get into the 5.0+ ghz range.
No. Less than 10% of i7 7700ks will hit 5.1ghz stable on a water loop.
Lying kike faggot.
Jackson Jackson
>comparing top tier overclocked ryzen to a shitty 7500
LOL
Another
Massive
Disappointment
confirmed for not even trying.
Sincerely, 5.0ghz 1.26v 7700K owner.
Juan Howard
tends to happen when the TDP is so low
Camden Watson
IPC =/= single thread performance
Elijah Davis
Yo son you do realize 5.1ghz with AVX load stability means 5.3 or 5.4ghz non-AVX load stability, right?
Also only poorfags don't have a water loop, you're not a poorfag are you?
Carter Long
AMD < INTEL
Hey, I can pull these out of my ass too! \:D/
Hunter Perez
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Ian Bennett
IPC is performance PER CLOCK
if you clock higher, it will perform better, even as a single thread.
if you want to compare IPC, take two chips from the same arch and generation and they're going to be the same at a given clock speed.
Kayden Gutierrez
pure conjecture coming from a clueless moron.
AMD is selling prebuilts right now. they've got massive SoC contracts right now. they've got Ryzen prebuilts lined up right now.
this information can be found within seconds. are you ignoring it deliberately, or do you just speak out of your ass in general?
Nicholas Thompson
no shit
Sebastian Bailey
Look, I'm not a shill or a fanboy, but this particular image is just outright bullshit. No other benches support this. This is a total fabrication.
Juan Ramirez
yes, then why are you complaining about them using a 7500? it's the same design as the 7700K core for core
Henry Mitchell
INCEL AND NOVIDEO ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIMES
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Andrew Taylor
7700k is priced $50 less han 1700X right now
Henry Lopez
this is an IPC comparison, not a vidya benchmark.
go back to Sup Forums and come back in 4 days, you'll have plenty of those to happily shitpost about.
Luke Richardson
Oh-oh! You made a mistake there buddy.
You used a fact while "arguing" with a retard, watch out next time...
Kayden Lee
I'm sorry but what is this about scaling? Meaning they just 'think' that's how the it would perform at that speed or did they actually overclock it?
Dylan White
>wasting your money on something retarded as """"water""""
>caring to have a 0.000000001 sec. speedup for your overclock
hf with your huge investment + monthly high electrical bills
Joseph Ross
yeah, were gonna need pics and timestamps for that i fnot feel free to jump into a oven kike lover
Evan Phillips
>They need to cover low, mid, and high range, plus server chips, and mobile chips, for OEMs to even CONSIDER using them.
They have zen based chips planed that will all be released before the year is up
Adam Gonzalez
>Incel
>Novideo
Go back to /r/ayymd.
Jaxson Roberts
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Sebastian Sanders
>implying water cooling is any better than air cooling
Why aren't all the huge servers and data centers using water coolers exclusively, then? Oh right, because it's unreliable and requires a shit ton more maintenance to achieve literally the same. And that's without mentioning the higher upfront cost.
Waterloop faggots' state: Blown (kek) the fuck out.
Hunter Wright
Because we're not 100% sure how high Ryzen will overclock without liquid nitrogen. We don't have a few hundred water cooled numbers to average yet.
Andrew Walker
this cpu will only be good for some operations and benchmarks
games and more complicated crap will still be faster on a intel cpu
and that's pretty sad, i thought they would fix their shit after the really disappointing bulldozer
Ryan Flores
>200 OEM machines til the end of march 17 at launch
>what is Xbox and Playstation
Sure this is a zero.
Just wait for ZEN ARM rocking smartphones, if they work out intel will be digging their own grave since ATOM is a total failure.
Nathan Lee
But you are wrong.
Eli Martin
he will take a picture of the screen since the PC will frozen at a single keystroke.
Benjamin Allen
>image posted in a video where the CPU or even the stock cooler are not shown
Zachary James
Zen ARM is K12, and apparently Zen is so good at low power that K12 has been put in the back burner
Carson Harris
Because they mostly use multithreaded 20 core cpus at 1.6ghz and shit doesnt go over 40°C with AC turned off.
Ryan Barnes
data centers are designed around splitting the load up as much as possible, as well as running in warmer ambient air temperature than you would want your desktop to run it. also, servers have much better airflow through the entire case, you dont need/want water cooling in a server
Charles Hall
water cooling as it exists in pcs is just a more complicated way to achieve air cooling
literally only for autists
Matthew James
that shit is faker than Pamela Anderson's tits
Anthony Lopez
2 the OY 2 the VEY
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Shalom.
Evan Sanchez
this is fact
Dominic Clark
The CPU is not even a Ryzen, the LID look like a FX. He probably just made a dummy to make the video.
David Thompson
Will they be good to emulate my chinese video games?
Jose Evans
youtube.com
I love this dork cannuck.
Zachary Rodriguez
>yfw the used sales corner on the tech site you always visit is full of people trying to dump their kaby lake cpu's
Leo Sullivan
i really hope i am
but to be honest i expected something like this when news about zen started to pop up
David Martinez
oh no muh 3 fps
Jaxon Davis
i havent seen him be serious about anything in months. like maybe his home setup videos which were more "look how much money i have to waste" than practical. his multigamer 1 computer videos were pretty useless
Jonathan Smith
that's the 7 1700, a fucking 3.0-3.7 ghz 8 core 16t cpu, up against a 4.5 ghz 7700k, what do you fucking expect
Why didnt he oc the 1700
Nolan Rogers
he said he would in another video.
Adrian White
why don't they do the same comparison of a 6900k vs 7700k and see how the results fare
Jose Bennett
Wheres the source on this?
Samuel Russell
>comparing 3.4ghz 8core/16thread cpus to highly clocked 4core/8thread cpus
there's a reason why there little to no reviews covering these comparisons
Cameron Foster
it was on a video that was made private really fast youtube.com
and here is a reupload youtube.com
Logan Stewart
>at certain tasks that can be done faster because of additional cache
I'm a zen fanboy but common m8
Adrian Morris
But that wasn't the case with bulldozer my friend.
Jayden Sanchez
Oy goyim, pay twice to get 3 more FPS, your eyes see at 6 gorillion fps, 3 make a difference between stop motion and realistic fluid movement!
Logan Long
Stop quoting this goat fucker.
He claimed the 480 was as fast as a 980.
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Hunter Williams
they should have learned their lessons with bulldozer
Brayden Richardson
Of course you retarded shill, you would know that of you had a clue of how your OS manages the cache, ram and the HDD swap
Zachary Allen
Stop quoting this goat fucker. He's a confirmed liar who wants to generate clicks.
Austin Carter
This shit is as legit as wccf.
Noah Roberts
a 4.2 base clock against a 3.4 base clock gets only 4fps avarage. Even worse, its a 95W cpu against a 65W
I really wish to know what kind of system he tested GTA V because how the fuck you can get this low fps in 1080p?
Matthew Green
He's not wrong if he got one of AMD's golden chips.
Charles Russell
He is wrong, if you have to include a qualifier after the fact it's a fucking lie.
Jackson Cox
at least they do show the motherboard and cpu
William Morgan
>putting "If you have to include a qualifier it's a lie" as a qualifier after "he is wrong"
So he's right.
Anthony Evans
Because he has to say it was a golden chip after hyping the average 480 could get that performance?
Or Because you are getting your nuts busted goat fucker?
Brandon Powell
I make 120k with coding c and I my war machine is powered by an 1st gen LGA1550 socket you little wankers muh cpu muh muh
Chase Gomez
And here's the good thing for AMD. The pre-built market is decreasing sharply for consumers, while the custom market is ever expanding. Just look at Nvidia having their best quarter, YET AGAIN. Desktop parts are well in demand, where as the average user is not buying desktops anymore because of mobile. OEM desktop deals are not as important anymore and will not be in the foreseeable future. Laptops still are though, so I will give you that. They need to start getting back in on the laptop/ultrabook market.
What AMD REALLY NEEDS to do though is get back into the server and business market. Which is possible but will be a steep climb. That exascale chip they have will be a nice step. But for right now, AMD is on the track to getting back big league into the custom desktop market. It was only a matter of time too, with the limits of silicon.
Robert Martinez
EBIN
Robert Price
windows 7
Isaac Barnes
I know what it is, asshat. Spoiler: IRRELEVANT.
Less cache, no overclocking (AMD has it), pointless numbers in the real world.
AMD still ruined, son.
I'm sorry about you being a poorfag if a few hundred quid is a "massive investment" :D I pay around 30 euros a month for electricity, which is like nothing at all.
>hurr durr because I don't believe it it can't be true
Grow up. I work in one of the biggest PC chains of my country, 13 years of constant growth and profit. I get to cherry pick batches before they even hit the shelves. My L639Gxxx says hi ^_^
Please see picture attached.
>b-but muh cost
What are you, poor?
Water performs better, that's what counts.
Now, would you lot please calm down? AMD is doing great at the 8-core market when running cherry picked multithreaded CPU benches against stupidly overpriced (60% profit margin) Intel high end, this is good for prices at that sector, but if they can't even come CLOSE to Intel top dog single thread performance they just aren't relevent in any way at the biggest market: Average consumers.
I hate the Intel monopoly as an idea as much as anyone but jeez, it's not like AMD is ever really coming back or anything, those days are gone :/
Ryder Turner
>"With our overclocked 1800x sample,under Noctua cooler given by AMD, we have passed beyond the stock single thread performance of 7700k, in a specific bench, and the temps were great. We had no concern about temps during our run which passes the ST performance of 7700k."
>"Single thread score will be so great. According to this performance we can say that 7700K will be history, even for gaming, from now on"
>"Overclock is no problem at all. Though we can not say a certain frequency due to NDA, I can say that it is impressive. Overclockers will be happy."
>"With one click I can reach great OC's. So I won't really bother with the manual OC no more."
Intel is fucked.
Carter Nguyen
The 1700X can reach what, 4.1ghz? Intel is a full 1000mhz ahead, so even if ryzen managed to match or exceed clock vs clock single thread performance (which they can't) they still couldn't win :(
Jaxson Barnes
What will something like the 1200x or 1400x clock to?
Jacob Morales
JUST
Grayson Carter
Hopefully better, for all our sakes, but from what I've seen so far I have no doubt they won't make it.
This seems to me like Bulldozer #2.
I even had a friend, who knows a high lever pro overclocker personally tell me Ryzen would hit MORE mhz on air than Kaby, the hype is surreal when normal sensible people spout shit like that.
Henry Powell
The 3ghz base clock 1700 clocks to 4.2ghz. The 1700x and 1800x both have significantly better binning and could easily do 4.5ghz.
Nathan Long
yeah?
Grow up. I work in one of the biggest security contracters of my country, 13 years of constant growth and profit. I get to cherry pick batches before they even hit the shelves. My Leopard 2A7+ says hi ^_^
Aiden Barnes
It's like you weren't around before faildozer launch, there was no official hype around only damage control. AMD knew it was shit, motherboard manufacturers knew it was shit, reviewers predicted it would be shit. Fanboy hype is inevitable but doesn't amount to anything, especially reviewers now report very good results.
James Hughes
>JF-AMD
THAT FUCK
Liam Thompson
>that huge difference between low and high fps for the i7
that's not good...
Blake Taylor
K12 will probably be used as a backup if ARM servers actually take off
Will probably never see the light of day otherwise
Cameron Cox
>What are you, poor?
>You shouldn't care about the amount of money you spend if you aren't poor
what the fuck kind of logic is this, caring about amount of money spent and having a high income aren't exactly mutually exclusive, and beyond that, watercooling only performs better in the short term, eventually it heats up to the same temp an air cooler would and it stays there for longer as well because of it's higher specific heat capacity - so that other user is right, there's literally no point in spending money on watercooling for servers/data centers where the load would likely be near constant, temps would be exactly same
And regarding the second to last paragraph, you say that as if average consumers buy Intel for any reason other than mind share
Normies don't even know the difference between multi and single thread performance, there's a reason why having moar cores is such a huge marketing point for any processor, regardless of the fact that having more cores doesn't actually affect performance in the majority of things normies actually uses their computers for
Jordan White
it's also important to note that the ryzen chip is overclocked to full and the 7700k is not so as a real world test this is bullshit.
Tyler Russell
its a great comparison because of the price to performance.
Noah Davis
It's not as bad as you think. Average is all that really matters in this case. Min and Max need to be taken in context. If the average is relatively the same between Ryzen and Intel chips, but Intel has higher mins and maxes, all it really means is that their outliers are not a very good representation of that particular set of data. Which is why we do average in the first place.
Lincoln Young
>memory over 16gb doesn't work above 2400mhz currently
great
Michael Parker
>OEM desktop deals are not as important anymore
Go to your closest city's business district. Observe all of the glass towers. In every floor of those glass towers there are tens of desktop machines for workers. Each one probably has a support contract associated with it too.
OEM deals are important.
If Dell suddenly decided they're putting AMD in everything now, intel wouldn't die but they certainly wouldn't be happy about it.
Jackson Davis
>faster than the fasted
Liam Richardson
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Eli Peterson
Did you just scan through my post and not actually fucking read it?
>The pre-built market is decreasing sharply for consumers
>for consumers
>What AMD REALLY NEEDS to do though is get back into the server and business market
>business market
What you quoted was me talking about the consumer desktop market. That aside, even though desktops for business are healthy, it is still shrinking as thin clients and virtualization shrink become more and more prevalent. You mentioned high-rise office buildings, but another big buyer of desktops are college campuses. And having worked in and deployed shit on a campus, I can tell you that the entire library was moved over to thin clients.
Robert Allen
>implying that troll is even a 1/10 as good looking as the shitwrecker
Christopher King
>implying its not actually him