Iran and Turkey

>Both of them tried to remove arabic and islamic influence on them during 19th and 20th centuries.
>One of them went full durka in 1979
>The other one is going full durka nowadays.
How come the only decent(non-durka culture-wise) muslim countries are ex-soviet countries? Was the cure of islam communism?

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some ex-soviets are full durka as well

Iran going durka is largely the result of outside influences. Without Anglo-American influences Iran could have even surpassed Turkey, Iran has a shit ton of natural resources, many young and intelligent people and it's a huge country. But the 20th century wasn't kind of them.

Turkey is not really going full durka at all, it's just propaganda mostly. They're still a secular nation, and if shit really hits the fan there'll be another military coup like always.

>Iran could have even surpassed Turkey
i agree, their education programs are top-tier
also we have almost no natural resources

the Shah was literally the best thing for them
too bad he was thrown out because he was too weak to crush the revolution, didn't want to kill civlians

could always start making human hair wigs to sell to rich people and hollywood instead of putting it in tourists food, that's a pretty good natural resource

>eating at tourist restaurants
its your fault

also, Iran is as far as i know allowing themselves to at least modernize if not westernize

Iran has huge potential to be based and I feel Syria and Iraq shitting themselves will leave quite a power gap in the region, so we might see some big change soon

>Turkey is not really going full durka at all, it's just propaganda mostly.
No.
turkishweekly.net/2016/04/27/news/parliament-speaker-s-call-to-remove-secularism-from-turkey-s-constitution-sparks-outrage/

>One parliament speaker

Yeah, that's not called "going durka", it's called "opposition". Up until a few years ago we had a party in parliament who didn't want women to vote (they changed their stance a few years back I think).

middleeasteye.net/news/president-erdogan-defends-turkeys-secularism-following-row-over-call-religious-state-1530547469
young generation is ~%80 secular and far less religious
problem isn't the secularity, that will not change anytime soon, full sharia is simply not compatible with the culture
problem is the growing divide between nationalists and islamists

Turkey isn't just going full Durka.
It's a pretty entertaining country to look at.
Their people are adopting every single bad thing that comes from the west, and none of the good, while keeping everything bad from Islam.

Kind of like Portugal minus the Islam part

Soviet ideology was heavily atheist. They couldn't force people to be atheist but they made the countries be more secular.

Soviet Communism was excellent at eradicating the national culture in countries it spread to

In the case of Islamic countries this was a very good thing for the world

Turkmenistan is North Korea lite, their previous president believed that the citizens only need 2 books: the Quran and his own fanfiction, as far as I know, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan both have extremist problems, Uzbekistan is pretty much a dictatorship, and only Kazakhstan is somewhat fine.

He is the parliament speaker, not the one of ministers. He represents the constitution of Turkey, and he represents durkaism in this case.

Then people said no, the people higher than him told him no and that was the end of that.

Yeah. The prime minister who said no to that, is taken from his duty. It proves my point even more.

that wasn't why he was taken from duty

Why was he taken from his duty?

Erdogan wants even more power.