What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?

What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?

You hear a lot about how ruthless the conquistadores supposedly were, especially considering their treatment of the indigenous natives. The Inquisition as well as the thorough exploitation of the continent are two other aspects often mentioned regarding the Spanish Empire. Is this true or propaganda? How do LatAms feel about this period in history?

Also, are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards? IIRC, they're called gallegos (what's that mean?) and speak with a Lisp, that's what I read here and there anyway.

Just give me a good idea of relations between Sudamericanos and castillanos.

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>What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?

It depends on the country.

>Is this true or propaganda?

Propaganda.

>How do LatAms feel about this period in history?

It depends on the country.

>are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards?
It depends on the country of America.

Good question

Basically: nesze semmi fogd meg jól.

(here's nothing, grab onto it tight)

Gallegos are just the people from Galicia, they call us gallegos because they emigrated in mass to america.
Also in real life there is no problems between us and americans but you know in internet all changes

Gallegos means someone from Galicia.
That's the original meaning, but people use it when someone is white in a region where there are almost no whites.

Only leftists, abos ("natives"), and immigrants to spain still care about them, and it's to show their butthurt.

is that the case in brazil?
afaik no one cares in real life

>What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?

Personally, I like Spain a lot. Mexicans can go from not giving a shit (more likely) to love them. The hate towards them is a meme, just like the "give us back nuestros horos" mentality.

>Is this true or propaganda?

Parts of it are true, parts of it are propaganda. But Spaniards weren't particulary brutal towards the natives as opossed to Anglos, Frogs and Barbosas. Quite the contrary.

They still trated natives like shit though, just not as bad as everybody else.

>How do LatAms feel about this period in history?

It's part of my history, what can I think about it? My ancestors were both the conquered AND the conquerors. Shit happens and here we are.

In these regards, though, the general population does seem to sympathise more with the anciet natives (they treat current amerindians like shit) and see the old Spaniards as the bad guys. Which, while partly true (Mexicas weren't saints either, although that doesn't justify Spaniards), they seem to forget that we are the sons of the conquistadores too, like I said.

>Also, are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards?

Yes. Pretty much what you said. Gallegos and the lisp.

I don't know who came up with the idea of calling all Spaniards Gallegos (a region in Spain), but, at least in Mexico, Gallego jokes imply that they are stupid. That's how it is. The hate for Spain wasn't a meme back then, so that's why it is offensive.

I also forgt to mention. Spaniards have derogatory terms for us (sudacas, panchitos, arrow shooting monkeys, etc.) like we do with them (Gallegos, gachupines, manolos, etc).

Sudaca = derogatory term for South American (sudamericano).
Panchito = some type of toasted peanut (because they are brown)

Gachupín = ? (I have no idea).
Manolo = stupid name for Gallego jokes.

They generally don't use them, and in my experience Spaniards think fondly of us for the most part when they do think about us (they mostly don't give a shit either). Except for some immigrants that tend to rob in Spain and things like that (often Ecuatorians and Colombians). But yeah, I think they hate gypsys and morrocans way more.

Only Argentinians and Uruguayans call them gallegos irl. Here we respect them like every european country but we're more comfortable around them, there is a sense of brothership with them and Italians

We also call them Gallegos.

gallego comes from the massive galician emigration to argentine around the XIX century IIRC
guachupin is some weird madrid thing

No, you don't, I'm talking about GASHEGO

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Latin memes are the best memes one could dream to see

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I've been reading the Siglos de Oro. Spain was cute when it ruled the world

I think only the Peruvians are butthurt

we literally never say "españoles" not even the media, and we have a reason to call them like that. not you.

>Peru
>national socialism
Kek

But we call them like that too.

Don't mind the shit """comedians""".
youtube.com/watch?v=Ro171c0mLQY

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those are tipically gallegos jokes, you now what i'm saying, stop trying to be special like us because you aren't.

I'm not trying to do anything.

And I don't "now" what you are saying. But yes, I can definitelly see you are special, no question about that.

En serio incluso en las noticias nos llamais gallegos?

Nice burn, Mexico.

We are the biggest cucks when it comes to Spaniards, this is mostly due to our subhuman love for their football teams. In world cups for example we always cheer for them.

But, yeah, other than that we respect them, Native American here are almost non existent so nobody gets butthurt about what they did in the past, so we are ok with them.

aquí en México nunca he escuchado que se refieran a ustedes como gallegos; lo normal es "a los españoles bla bla bla" o "la madre patria bla bla bla "

>mexico
>once a hellhole, always a hellhole

next on our list for liberation/10

>argentina
>eres
boliviano

we only have a problem with british pirates

they hate us with all heart...spaniards cannot travel to america , dude

En serio la gente llama a España la "madre patria"?

>En serio la gente llama a España la "madre patria"?
solo algunos la gran mayoría querrá la muerte para nosotros

Mi abuelo lo hacía, pero supongo que era porque sus padres eran españoles.
Es como una forma un tanto cursi de decirle. La verdad no se usa cotidianamente, por lo menos yo sólo lo he visto por escrito (salvo mi abuelo).

>You hear a lot about how ruthless the conquistadores supposedly were
Spanish colonizers gave the Natives and Mestizos a treatment they didn't deserve, we should have set up a racist system like that of British and French colonies and eventually replaced them.
> Inquisition as well as the thorough exploitation of the continent are two other aspects often mentioned regarding the Spanish Empire.
The Inquisition was brutal against "heretics", pagans and such but not the colonizers.
>How do LatAms feel about this period in history?
Depends on the country. Latin American identity is part Spanish part indigenous, mestizos and indigenous tend to have a negative vision about Spain in general and white people a positive one. Very sumed up.
>there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards?
The same everyone has about us.
>IIRC, they're called gallegos (what's that mean?)
It is Argentinians mostly who call us that. With the war many Spaniards fled to Argentina (along with many Italians and Germans), mainly form Galicia, they are always the most prone to emmigrate. Gallego means Galician as you can probably assume.
>speak with a Lisp, that's what I read here and there anyway.
We just speak our language the way it was invented. It is South Americans who can't pronounce /θ/.
> Sudamericanos and castillanos
Castellanos*. Also Castile just happens to be the biggest and most populated historical region of Spain.
That's the basics.

>in real life there is no problems between us and americans but you know in internet all changes

No please don't. It's not like in the internet irl but to say there is not some degree of animosity between them and us is just stupid.

We like them, they shared their culture with us.

Nobody here hates them as far as I know, in fact I think it's the opposite, a lot of people here think that Spain is the best country in Europe (oh boy if only they knew).

>depends on the country

not really. it depends on the person. there are hispanistas and indigenistas in every country.

No
Sí
No
This

si, de esa forma le llaman

Pues creo que los que les tienen "rencor" son esos que claman: "oh europeos genocidas, ¡monstruos!" (algo así como los "we wuz aztecs n shiiiet" quejándose en US). Es ridícula esa manera de pensar porque hablamos español y el catolicismo es la religión oficial aquí y que es fue un suceso natural y que ya lo superen (desde esa postura muchos se callan, pero otros entran modo nigger y se enojan más).

la gran mayoría no les detesta

>eres muy inteligente weon
erih /soh /soi' (sois)

cualquiera de esas quedaria mejor en lugar de "eres"

Panchito comes from the national hero Pancho Villa

>What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?

People here where I live likes to pretend we are them sometimes when they want to feel superior to our central american neighbors, but most of the time it's just indifference about Spain and Spaniards, we don't care much about anybody who isn't us.

Our nation was built by the founding fathers praising the Spanish and Catholic heritage and whiteness of the people and ignoring any other type of heritage even if we are mostly mestizos like the rest of LatAm.

Even the constitution used to said we were a white nation kek but they change it last year I believe to a "multi-ethnic heritage nation"

>Is this true or propaganda?

Part of it it's true, but education here seems to simplify the whole colonization process to "amerindians were pacifist they dindu nuffing Spaniards were evulz and genocided everybody" when the process was more complex than that

>How do LatAms feel about this period in history?

It depends on the person, most don't care about it and just see it as a holiday were they can be lazy and drink beers at home, some people denounces colonization as the worst crime in human history, and a few right-wingers believe it's actually the best thing that happened to the continent.

>are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards?

I don´t think so, the only stereotype is that 12 kids here were I live think the Spaniards are all like the cool Youtubers lile RubiousOMG o el Rincon de Giorgio and are starting to use Spaniard Youtube slang like "coño" and" LOL" in public which is really weird for me.

> stop trying to be special like us because you aren't.
This is bantz right?

Every Spaniard I asked before told me it was because of this.

>eres
bolivianoooo

LatAm mocks their animu dubs and localizations with epic maymays ;)

onda glacial seniores

A todo gas jovenes

don pepe y sus globos muchachos

Arturito y Citripio, caballeros

Esa no la he visto me gusta más
La Jungla de Cristal, amigos

>What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?
Other than the autistic white-hating non-STEM university students who also hate the US, the general opinion of Spaniards and Spain is a positive one. We don't really dwell on the past that much. There's nothing to be gained of it. In fact, we somewhat cherish that time in history. For instance, we kept our coat of arms granted in the 1511 by the Spanish crown which actually looks badass.

>You hear a lot about how ruthless the conquistadores supposedly were, especially considering their treatment of the indigenous natives
Education here tends to focus more on the most 'positive' sides of history. They of course teach those subjects, but only very briefly and they're massively overshadowed by American history. But during that period, we tend to focus on more things like the tainos making food, their daily life, the hierarchy and all that. And about Spain we're taught the basics like Cristobal Colon, Cofresi, the kings, Juan Ponce de Leon, etc, etc, etc. So yeah, like I said; some very basic shit. I mean, we even re-enact past battles while under Spaniard rule. See this one for instance against the UK's (>pic related): youtube.com/watch?v=rzD-uOVOz_c

If you go to a good highschool and have a good professor, they may dwell into far more details, but that's most definitely not the norm.

>Also, are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards?
Other than the typical seseo, not that I'm aware of.

Qué palabra usan en ves de "eres", entonces??

Sos

Corrígeme si me equivoco pero la independencia de Puerto Rico la provocó EEUU, no hubo un movimiento independentista muy importante, ¿Es así?

DURANTE SU NIÑEZ

Interesante. Pensé que sólo nosotros usábamos la palabra "sos".

Como no la van a usar si tu bandera es una versión negra de la nuestra

I don't remember any hostilities.
My mother sometimes used to lament the fall of the Aztec Empire but that's all I remember.
In Mexico the Mestizo identity is strong, basically mixed people of Indians and Spanish origin.
My dad went to Spain last year and he said the people aren't all that much different from Mexico, his words.

El azul es más bonito que el celeste homosexual, vos lo que tenes es envidia, che

>What do LatAms think of their former colonial rulers?
As a Spaniard, I cannot really answer this, but it seems they have both love for their native blood and Spanish blood.
>You hear a lot about how ruthless the conquistadores supposedly were, especially considering their treatment of the indigenous natives. The Inquisition as well as the thorough exploitation of the continent are two other aspects often mentioned regarding the Spanish Empire. Is this true or propaganda? How do LatAms feel about this period in history?
Some of this is true, but even the things that are true aren't even close to what the other European colonizers did, so we don't look as bad in comparison.
>Also, are there any stereotypes regarding Spaniards? IIRC, they're called gallegos (what's that mean?) and speak with a Lisp, that's what I read here and there anyway.
Believe it or not, LatAms in Spain see us as a tad boring and strict. We don't have a lisp, gaditanos do, we simply pronounce the "th" sound.
>Just give me a good idea of relations between Sudamericanos and castillanos.
We get along very well, we have centuries of history together and a very similar view of life and sensitivities. We of course have the image of the smuggler sudaca and the poor and dumb gallego immigrant, but that doesn't change the fact that we are a very functional family.

we wuz white n shiiiiettt

Reminder,

Mexico y Latin America pertenecen a los españoles.
Pronto....

well, if that were to happen...mmmmmm it would be interesting because our government is composed of a bunch of fucking bastards; however, it seems the spanish politicians are fucking their own people too (and i read that a socialist party is becoming popular, and socialism isn't a good thing)

If it's a democracy we are all fucked.
Vote buying, populism and corruption like you've never heard of if we are all put together.