/pcbg/: Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
State the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? Put effort into your queries to make yourself easy to help.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
Currently worthwhile CPUs: >G4560 for budget builds (i5 aren't worthwhile. Get Ryzen 5, drop down to G4560, or up to i7 >No R5 1400 unless discounted >i7-6700k is good but pricey. If over budget: consider locked 7700; not chasing 4.8Ghz+ capable when you weren't gonna overclock, or get R5 >Cheap Z270 board is still good for faster memory in games w/ locked 7700, but aren't for overclocking (VRMs suck) >R7/Xeon for compute/multitask/mixed use
Currently worthwhile GFX cards: >RX470 , RX480, 1070, 1080, 1080TI >1060 is worth considering over a 480 if same/cheaper in your country, or you just play games it's better on for the price. 1050Ti is for mITX builds >470 is all you need for 1080p >Wait for RX 580 in a few days >Nvidia GPU + Ryzen has issues in many games atm >Budget builds: consider integrated graphics over a card weaker than RX470, unless price/performance is better (discounted/used) >Vega comes in May
General: >No brand/model loyalty. Parametric filters on pcpartpicker can help >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't worth it just for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity as a scratch disk >Save money w/ mATX case/mobo, and if patient by purchasing your parts individually in flash sales
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Replaced the 7700k recommendation with 6700k in the OP. It's 99% the same shit overclocked, after all. Tired of so many people getting Kabylakes that need to be delided. I don't know what the stats are, but it sure seems like a high as fuck number of people are getting 7700ks that idle at 45-55C and need deliding. It's much less common for the 6700k to need a delid.
Ian Gutierrez
is it hard to change my graphic card? can it destroy my pc if i do it bad? how to choose a graphic card?
Jacob Perry
Is this a good deal? 25,000 GBP =31,417.13USD
Jayden Wood
Muh guts
Camden Morales
No. Possible, but very unlikely. Pick a card that suits your use case and/or budget.
It doesn't seem that bad for a prebuilt with customized hard tubed watercooling.
Xavier Diaz
fine, thank you user
Cooper Carter
No, you can't really break anything. But does your PSU even have 8 and/or 6 pin connectors for a GPU? In a PC that bad, it might not, and may rely on PCIe power alone.
>how to choose a graphic card? Depends on your location, but in the US and most of the europe the RX470 is the cheapest one worth buying.
>I didn't even know a GPU as bad as the 705 existed
Noah Gutierrez
Is there a cheaper alternative to a MSI Gaming Radeon RX 480? I can't find it cheaper than $240,
Jordan Fisher
idk the sapphire nitro 8gb was $190 yesterday after rebait. Did you search newegg and amazon, and filter by cheapest?
Anything over $200, I wouldn't even buy it except maybe an XFX GTR. RX580s are $240-$270, it looks like.
Dominic Nguyen
Hey,
I'm a beginner and here's my question :
How does one practice PC building ? I mean it's expensive to buy an entire one so...
Andrew Smith
I did. Should I just get the MSI RX 470? I'm doing a budget build
> >I didn't even know a GPU as bad as the 705 existed Jesus hold my sides, it's worse than igpu.
>+∞%
Aiden Lopez
The RX470 4GB is like over 90% as fast as the RX480 4GB.
I'd recommend the RX470 4GB for budget 1080p 60fps+ and the RX480 8GB for 1440p.
is this bait? You spent nearly as much on an i5-6500 and a $40 cooler that you could have gotten an i7-6700 for.
I guess much of Sup Forums were being tards and still recommending i5s back then even though it's been clear since like 2015 that i5s are a waste of money except in very niche cases then and none now.
Lincoln Young
hard to say about my PSU, i've never opened it. don't you think AMD GPU's are bad for video games?
Isaiah Martinez
Come on OP! Stop with these shitty thread pictures
Easton Wood
I'm a total retard, do I need a radiator for a NZXT S340 case?
Jackson Ortiz
Looking to build a decent gaming machine that can dual boot OSX, this is what I've got in mind. Any recommendations? Not sure how I feel about the motherboard.
I bet it's based on the GTX400 series or something like that, and just die shrunk. It's not a "GK" die like the 710 or 720M. That's the shit Nvidia used to do back in those days. I doubt it's actually Keplar.
Adrian Walker
you understand now why do i need to change it :( i don't even understand why they put a powerful CPU with the most shitty GPU
Brandon Reyes
Ordered the RX 470 actually myself yesterday. Was still rocking a GTX 670 but then the idea of selling it came to me.
Selling the 670 for about 60 and then buying the card ( on a huge sale ) for 175 will cost me merely 115 for a huge difference in graphical fidelity.
Just saw some benchmarks on the Witcher 3 and that ran amazing on high settings with that card. Ofcourse the guy used fast RAM and a high end processor but still, am probably gonna have some fun when this comes in the mail.
Nicholas Bell
>ordering a 470 tomorrow when Rx500s come out literally tomorrow You goddamn retard refund that shit tight now
>don't you think AMD GPU's are bad for video games? No? What? Their architecture and drivers are objectively better outside of perf-watt (but much of that lower perf/watt is offset by lower CPU usage). They don't have big dies to compete against 1070 and up. But since you're upgrading from a 705, I'm guessing you have a 1080p 60hz monitor. It would be stupid to get more than an RX470 or RX570.
Depends on the price he got it for. I'm assuming he meant 175 euros so RX570 might cost more.
But why? >i5 >$220 for an RX470 >shitty PSU >dogshit wifi usb thing instead of getting a better one on the motherboard for basically free >2666 ram on a board that supports 2400 mac >$700 for this dogshit
Jayden Perry
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Dylan Wright
Sorry user I'm literally retarded and have never built a PC before
Samuel Walker
oh ok thank you very much, i have a last question user. i've been told my new gpu should be compatible with my motherboard; can you tell me how to check if it is?
Jaxson Johnson
>30,000 dollars
What?
Samuel James
No way, i've got it for 175 Euros, that shit's way too cheap. On top of that, the 5XX Series is merely rebranded right?
the 470 is the perfect choice given that the generally cheapest 470's are 210Eu AT LEAST.
Is the memory compatible with the MOBO? the highest frequency I see is 2400 whilst you have chosen for 2666 memory.
Connor Adams
The RX 580 Cards should be out tomorrow, right?
Adrian Gutierrez
Not sure, haven't been following GPU news a lot. Although i'm cautious because of Vega, another reason to get a cheap card now and invest in a Vega card when it comes out.
Ayden Green
If getting an RX470, the price to look for is $110-$130 USD or Bong, or about 170 for EUR. They were these prices like every day 1-6 weeks ago. They spiked in prices so you'll have to wait. Probably due to people doing Ryzen builds and finding out that Nvidia cards can run super shit on Ryzen in many games by AMD ones are super smooth most of the time. Expectation is that they'll drop down to $130 or less again over the week with RX570s coming out which MSRP at like $170.
Yes. Some are already out in some stores.
idk dude what is your motherboard, PSU, and GPU? You need the right PCIe generation support for the motherboard to match the GPU, and your PSU needs 8 and/or 6 pins to match the GPU power connector.
Gabriel Perez
What PSU wattage for a ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X and a RX 480 gpu ? 400W is enough ?
Isaiah Kelly
So far does it seem like a 580 will be worth it or should I just pick up a 480 at a hopefully reduced price?
Aaron Thomas
for what purpose ?
Ian Campbell
What is the best gaming build for under $700?
Lincoln James
If it's a good quality PSU, 400 is enough. Do you have a monitor to see your wattage? If you're overclocking, you will want to see that it's not passing too high with the voltage you give it.
Yes, it looks like the non-reference RX580s will be great for 1440p. If you're doing 1080p 60fps, a 4GB RX470 is all you needed.
Dylan Martinez
I'm building a computer for video editing. Some guy on Reddit told me not to get an R7 and go for the 7700k which seems odd to me.
Here's my part list: CPU: R7 1700 - $318 GPU: GTX 1050 ti - $145 RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB - $110 SSD: SanDisk 240GB - $74 HDD: WD 3TB Blue 5400rpm - $91 Motherboard: MSI ATX Tomahawk - $94 Power Supply: EVGA 500W - $36 Case: whatever is cheap and doesn't look like a power ranger - $40 Total: $905
Should I try to make a build with the 7700 and 7700k to compare to this one?
Should I make any changes to the above rig that will increase performance substantially with only minor cost increase?
Parker Peterson
In reality when you get high end processors for hobby video editing or editing at a slow pace (No hardcore deadlines present) the type of processor osn't that important. A 1700 will run great just like a 7700k.
The ram is important though so 16GB should be fine.
I used to do professional editing on a FX-6300 and that ran fine too.
Jason Kelly
>Do you have a monitor to see your wattage? If you're overclocking, you will want to see that it's not passing too high with the voltage you give it. It's for a future build. I don't think I'll OC since I'm just gonna put it on a quiet case which isn't great when it comes to OC. I was gonna pick a be quiet 400W gold certified.
Ayden Clark
>If you're doing 1080p 60fps, a 4GB RX470 is all you needed. >b-but muuh future proof
but weren't the R7 better on anything but video games compared to the 7700K ?
not sure if the ram is worth getting though. also i already have an ssd
Ian Johnson
>leddit Dont bother with them. Obviously they cannot comprehend in their pea sized brains that a cheaper 8 or 6 core CPU is better than a cpu that runs at 50C° idle
>Should I try to make a build with the 7700k to compare to this one? Don't bother. R7 is just the best overall for production except when you need over 64GB of RAM.
Not always true. Previewing even in audio programs will leave to samples dropping on a 7700k. Similar happens with video editing, where you can't smoothly scroll through the preview with a big video on a 7700k. You can certainly get by with a 7700k, but it's not as good for it.
Why not get the Seasonic 420W fanless? It'll pull 600watt fine if you really need to as long as you have positive case pressure and your ambient temps aren't 100+ degrees
Future proof is saving $100 more to replace the card later. The 470 on average gets like 75 FPS on games from the past few years. There's only a few you'd have to turn settings down and hardly see a difference. Game requirements haven't exploded like they used to ever since GCN dropped.
Kevin Roberts
>420 watt psu pulling 600w Excuse me but what
Ryder Wright
How good of a case is the Corsair 200R? Pic related.
Levi Wilson
I'm not sure regarding quality but the 270R is about the same price last I checked.
Mason Hughes
Get the ASRock pro4 mATX. It's $75 and another $10 off if you review it and submit that to ASRock, and a much better board. And get the Ripjaws or Geil RAM that's cheaper. Why pay more for corsair? And get a 1600 instead if you'll overclock it, but otherwise the 1500X is fine.
>420 watt psu pulling 600w >Excuse me but what It's hilariously overbuilt in order to be able to deliver 420W with no fan, at high ambient temps, with no airflow except convection. Most good PSUs are very underrated. There is no arbitrary cut off limit on them when you surpass some wattage. They shut down based on sensors showing they aren't stable or are too hot, not because you pull too much wattage.
Go google it if you don't believe me.
It's ok. I don't like the lack of dust filters, though. Shopping for cases is a pain.
Angel Perez
I know. It's super hard to know which ones are aestheticly pleasing and have enough features without going into gaymur territory. I have nailed down something in the $60-$80 range but I have no idea what to get that's plain but quality and functional.
Ian Ross
i think ill wait for the bios updates and reviews before i get a motherboard. Thanks for the advice on the ram though
Easton Ross
Need a good 1080p 60fps budget build for around 600$, can anyone help me out?
Nathan Ramirez
I'm building a gaming rig for my gf. Is this decent? Any modifications?
normies literally cant stop bragging about their gfs
Dominic Stewart
60fps minimum? That's hard like the other user said because usually that'd mean a g4560+rx470 but the g4560 will stutter and drop under 60fps in lots of games, and just won't plain run over 60 at all on some, too. If you can stretch to $700 pcpartpicker.com/list/XVVppb
>I'm building a gaming rig for my gf. >1050ti for $150 get her a better boyfriend imo
That website never seems to help anyone. They put an i3-1600 with a 1050 on a z270 board based on it.
Asher Anderson
A rad is part of water cooling setup. If you're using a closed-loop (AIO) water cooler it will come with the appropriate radiator and fan(s) to be mounted in the appropriate spot. If you're using a traditional air cooler then no, no rad. If you're doing custom loop water cooling and asking this question then save time and stop what you're doing and just throw your PC in the trash.
Holy shit. I just realized how much he was spending for such a shitty PC despite already having the CPU paid for.
I'd get the ASRock pro4 and not pair an Nvidia GPU with the Ryzen, though.
Sell that CPU. It's trash. 3.0ghz old quad core. I'm pretty sure even a G4560 would outperform it in most cases. Maybe you can get 50bux for it from tards that really don't understand what they're buying on ebay. Was Haswell after they fixed how you could overclock locked intel CPUs by hardware locking them?
Henry Ward
PSA Geil memory of this ID works good at advertised clocks on Gigabyte boards.
GEX416GB3200C16DC
Easton Edwards
I'm running Phenom II x4 965 with Asrock 970 extreme 3 with Gainward GTX 960. What Mobo/CPU combo could I replace it with if I wanted a smoother 720p or eventually 1080p gaming on a 400$ budget.
Anthony Rogers
retard here, i'm trying to overclock my FX 6300 and I can achieve 4.0 ghz but I can't go any higher. I was hoping to atleast get it to 4.2 or even higher but it isn't stable
any tips or is that as far as it's willing to go?
Connor Cruz
You can get a 1600+mobo+ram for $400 easy, dude. That GPU is pretty garbage, but meh, just replace it later.
Easton Gonzalez
not sure if this is right thread can anybody recommend a cheap trackball for me, available on Amazon UK?
Henry Hill
No its just that the cpu prices arent up. He doesnt have the purchased setting on. Hes still retarded though
Christian Russell
What the best Ryzen 1600 build?
Noah Cooper
I could do that for you, but whats your budget?
Cooper Flores
I don't see why 1.4v wouldn't be fine as long as you have the cooling and VRM cooling. 4.0 at 1.24v actually looks good for that chip afaik.
You'll spend more in electricity than if you just upgraded, though.
what does "best" mean? is probably the best for a reasonable $700 budget without skimping on too much.
Daniel Evans
Thanks man. I was kinda wary of going for that since it seems like too much muscle for my needs but I guess I should finally go into 2017. What RAM is good for 1600? The faster the better?
Ian Turner
Can anyone recommend a cheap NAS build for streaming plex content? Should I go pre-built or build from scratch?
Luke Howard
Ha, yeah. It's pretty overpowered but.. the 2500k and 2600k seemed like that when they came out, too.
You could just get a 1500X, that's still a big upgrade, but if you're willing to overclock the 1600 is unbeatable value.
Charles Gray
Sorry if i did not specify.
Below $1k budget. CAD/Rendering use with very little gaming, also I'll be getting 2-32" 4k monitor separately.
Grayson Foster
Sorry. Cad/rendering, very little gaming below $1k budget.
Jaxson Butler
So this is a good one? Its pretty cheap on Amazon right now
You can likely make a 1700 build for that. Depends if you need NVMe or not. I know Blender supports OpenCL now and the RX480 is much better than the 1060 if you use that.
Look at the other builds and try and put one together.
>Intel Core i7-4790K Devils Canyon - 4GHz Quad-Core CPU Processor er >Item condition:New >Price: £10.33 >Postage: Free Services from outside UK >Item location:张家界市, 湖南省, China >Seller: ynv413796_9 (0 )
what did he mean by this?
James Morris
I know you guys are gonna rip me to fucking shreds for asking this here but it's worth it.
Not interested in building a pc right now, I want to buy the pc already assembled as I need it for my business ASAP!
It's this pc okay for, photoshop, text editing, light video editing, multiple browsers running at once with multiple tabs open. Not really interested in the gaming shit, as I'll use this pc for my business only.
I currently have a crappy asus laptop on intel i3 and this shit can't handle my pc usage habit.
Here's comes the link....are you ready to call me a massive faggot?
Please let me if this is good for what I need it for.
Parker Bailey
>reddit formatting >r7 250 gpu faggot
Cameron Sanchez
What changes would you recommend?
Horizonal mATX mobo on cube case - Front panel can only have one fan (12 to 20 cm) - Top panel can take either 12 or 14cm fans - Back pannel can take one 12 or 14cm fan - CPU cooler is stock AMD Spire - RAM is xboxhueg (6cm tall) because reasons
I'm completely lost on what pressure configuration should I use, and configuring the back fan as intake creates a really annoying hissing sound. Most standard tower coolers blowing to the back side would block RAM and the only top blowing one that does not is fucking expensive (Noctua C14S)
Nathaniel Cook
Is the MSI B350 Tomahawk still experiencing extremely long POST times?
Ethan Morgan
Use the return button much? >also >fx
Blake Wright
>I could do that for you, but whats your budget? Not him but it would be great to get a second opinion or alternative build to what i have in mind. I'd really appreciate some input. I don't really know how much i should invest into a Ryzen build. I assume DDR5 and AM5 (or whatever) won't be a thing until 2020 or later, but then i'd like to upgrade since DDR5 should be a considerable improvement if we look at past DDR improvements. Location: EU Austria/Switzerland/Germany Budget: about 1000€ without GPU (will either use my RX470 or upgrade to RX580 or Vega, meaning target is future 1440p freesync upgrade) and case (got R5), the less the better of course, i'm a greedy mountain jew. Usage: Work (nothing too heavy, mostly light programming and webdev), Gaming but actually no AAA titles, standard desktop music, internet, etc. and probably some encoding etc. for music/movies and chinese cartoons. Important features: good audio (needs to power my DT880 250 Ohm, my laptop is noisy as fuck), good VRM for stable 24/7 3.9ish OC that won't melt after a year, general reliability Bonus features: dual BIOS, fan headers, Intel NIC Things i don't care about: looks, RBG, retarded (((gaming))) features.
Thanks user, Im using Lumion to render scences, it uses a gaming engine for rendering so a gaming is a benefit. does the rx480 drive 2-4k monitor?
Austin Lee
I want to build a portable desktop for work purposes (heavy GIS utilization), 1080p streaming, and light vidya gaymen (DOTA2). Does this build look ok for my needs?
Should I get a 1440p monitor, or should I go for the 144HZ 1080p meme?
I don't really play any competitive games, so I couldn't give a fuck about high framerates.
Jacob Cruz
I hate cube cases, but: The CPU cooler shhould be blowing down to help cool the VRMs >200mm in >2x120mm and 140mm out That looks like it'll be negative pressure. Instead of being autistic about "top should always blow out cause heat rises!!!!! and rear blow out.. because!!!!" you should just have the the rear fan blowing in. You really probably don't even need the fans up top and it's probably overkill.
RX480 8GB is great for 1440p. But not 4K.
You can get 1440p at higher hz. 85-165. 1080p is garbage imo. I had 1600x1200 for the longest time. I could not drop down to 1920x1080.
Gavin Williams
I expected some criticism for the link I posted, wasn't expecting you faggots to criticize my way of writing. But this is Sup Forums after all and you guys are faggots.
Anyone else have any thoughts on the pc I'm wanting to buy? Thanks
Why don't you get the pro4? Isn't it still $75-$10 if you review it? Even if it's up to $75, it's a better fucking board for $5 more. >geographic information systems I remember FX were actually good at that stuff. I don't see why the Ryzen wouldn't be as well, and better even. So yeah, seems good.
Make one of those Ryzen 1600 builds posted that are under $700.
Jayden Allen
Is the Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB Windforce worth it for 250 euros?
I found a Sapphire Radeon RX470 8GB Nitro+ OC for 230 which would you guys recommend?
Matthew Bennett
Ill check out the pro4. Also, I'm concerned my case might be an issue from a heat management perspective. Would I be better off spending a little more for a better case with better ventilation?
Evan Ross
Someone?
Asher Cook
You already know that prebuilts are overpriced, you already said that we were going to call you a faggot. This is PC ****BUILDING**** general. Go see or make a new thread
Isaac Evans
>Is the Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB Windforce worth it for 250 euros? fuck no. It's not even a good model. The RX580 Aorus looks good on paper, but wait for reviews of it tomorrow or whatever.
>I found a Sapphire Radeon RX470 8GB Nitro+ OC for 230 which would you guys recommend Why so expensive? You could get an RX480 8GB Nitro+ for $190 yesterday.
Skim the thread. At least ctrl+f it. Advice for RX cards and price points to look for was given already.
I missed this. Uhh. You're overpaying for the RX470. That's the MSRP for RX570s afaik.
Spend a little more for a better PSU. Seasonic 550RM should be $50 still at a number of places after rebate. I don't think the $10 you're saving on slower RAM is worth it.
You could save like $50 going mATX as well. It's inferior to that
