Do the fuckers behind this think they're doing a good thing? Normies, and pretty much everyone else, Will just go to different sites that don't have this shit installed.
Sites that are suffering from adblocking are not going to have their problems magically fixed with this.
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They lost when they made ads obnoxious
All those site can go and get fucked
I have never disabled my ad blocker because a website asked me and I never will
I don't give a shit.
If advertisers want a war I'll fucking give them one.
marketers can get fucked, scummiest people on the planet.
There's a whole one site that I see ads on: nyaa, and that's for a simple reason: they host them directly themselves, not linked through external third parties, so I don't care to block them.
uCucks BTFO
I'd leave ads on everywhere if sites curated them like that. Google would crash and burn in such a world as well
A feeble attempt against users with adblock in an endless arms race that they will never win
>false flag made by Google to increase their ad clicks and trick more advertisers to join their platform
no thanks
this
Do you have proof for your claims.
do you have proof it harms advertisers/google?
i've worked for a few years as an producer for several print magazines and marketers went nuts with "special ads" - gate covers, folders, wraps, shrinkwraps, pop ups, (fake) post its, centerfolds - the list is endless. i've seen magazines wrapped in so much bullshit, you have to pass 8 pages to get to the cover. and advertisers pay top dollar to make that happen.
now this people discovered online, that's why we went from "hi, i'm a static image, maybe a gif on the top right corner, if you want to, click me" to "FUCK YOU I'M A FULL SCREEN ANIMATED AD WITH SOUND YOU BARLEY CAN'T CLICK AWAY EATING UP 2GB OF YOUR RAM AND MAKE YOUR FANS GO CRAZY".
commercialized/advertized internet is their endgame, they are too stupid and too old to understand, that everyone hates this shit and that they are abandoning ad heavy sites.
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Nuh uh, you provide your proof first.
right, so we're back to square one. Not using it
>its a google false flag
>the burden of proof is on you even though I'm the one speculating wildly
>prove me wrong, m'lady
who are you quoting?
>me in 2007
poor lads, that amount of quality content deserves my visits. I love RSS, and getting in touch with news and blogs
>me in 2017
fuck those clickbait faggots, shilling every product they get paid to review. they have destroyed RSS, and they provide zero value to the internet
The natural progression are in-text ads. Imagine reading an article only to come upon a paragraph selling you cutlery. Content creators already employ runtime ads. It's the next step. Fuck ads.
I disable uBlock on sites that I enjoy and don't find the ads obnoxious on. I use adblock because I grew sick of websites with no dignity harassing me with obnoxious ads, if they want to harass me to disable adblock I'll just close the tab.
You can hate all you want
but when the site owners sees a check for 10k+ at the end of the month, it's an easy decision.
btw you autists aren't the target of ads anyway since you don't have any money to buy stuff.
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Every normie who asks me to look at or fix anything on their computer gets UBO + filterlists + Reek's installed.
The more we spread ad-blocking to the masses the more times we can cut that $10k check in half. I savored the delicious tears of the first ones to feel the pinch, youtubers.
>The more we spread ad-blocking to the masses
the more you spread it to the masses the more drastic the publishers will retaliate with all kind of measures as more and more of their audience use adblocking scripts.
so you are just cutting off your nose to spite your own face.
If you're in an arms race that your opponent can't win, the proper response is to escalate as hard and as fast as you can. Advertisers can't win. At the end of the day, the user is in control of the browser, and they have the further disadvantage that truth-in-advertising laws require them to disclose sponsored content. Remember how Facebook made a big deal of their new "unblockable" ads that were being effectively blocked within a day or two? That's because they had to include the word "sponsored" in each one of those posts, which makes them easy to find programmatically.
I remember about a decade ago I didn't care about ad blockers. Most sites that I visited would have pretty unintrusive shit so I wouldn't care much.
But today ad-blocking is a necessity. Very basic websites that do not have to do anything with pirated shit or porn have ads that ruin the experience of using the web. Specially when they track your interests, because it becomes creepy.
>If you're in an arms race that your opponent can't win, the proper response is to escalate as hard and as fast as you can.
except your opponent CAN win.
>At the end of the day, the user is in control of the browser,
literally the same thing was said to the movie publishers. the users control the TV and the media players in their home.
and yet the hollywood publishers have won that battle and more.
get rekt
actually not, someone made a platform where that shit wasn't there, and users flocked to it in huge droves (netflix)
A computer and web browser is not the same thing as a locked-down set-top box. A better analogy would be how the movie industry has failed to stamp out piracy.
and netflix gives even more control to the publishers than even they could imagine.
So I guess it's a victory if you are a homosexual who enjoys getting your shit pushed in.
>A better analogy would be how the movie industry has failed to stamp out piracy.
haha oh wow
demonoid = dead
YIFY = dead
piratebay = half dead
EZTV = dead
the field is littered with the corpses of pirates.
>muh private trackers
haha enjoy your pay2pirate exclusive piracy club with 100 members while the hollywood publishers count their money.
>how much website income are you losing?
Zero because I don't fucking serve cancer ads like some kind of cheap whore.
because it moved on from torrents to streaming. Over a decade ago you'd be talking about how Napster and Kazaa and Limewire were all dead and the music/movie industry had won.
This, website owners should be happy we even visit their shitholes.
And its also the fact that its not just malvertising, they also try to shove 392847 JS scripts that only perform "analytical" and tracking bullshit.
As always, the industry needs to get the fucking stick until they fucking drop this shit.
that dog is badass
I find Google ads to be the most tolerable. The worst ads don't come from Google, but some strange-ass ad contractors, leading to surprise-fullscreen ads
>Have a system where the majority of ignorant and lazy people are paying for the content while most just have ads and those with adblock get it for free absolutely
>Children cry
>Convince everyone to get adblock
>Service providers start focusing on developing for phones, developing pay-to-view content and decrease freedoms at every turn
>Children cry
>"We'll block all the ads! That will show them!"
>Nope. You're blocked.
>Children cry
Really makes me think
Why is AdBlock even detected? Can't it trick the website that all its JS bullshit is running fine (in a sandbox for example) while not showing shit locally to the user?
>we have to appease them, and put up with their shit, or else they might do something worse!
That's never been a good argument in any dispute.
JS can, by default enumerate addons. They can also play tricks like checking (again through JS) if some space where an ad was supposed to load has an ad in it, or the like. Killing JS stops every last one of these dead, but they're all work-aroundable pretty easily even with JS enabled, it just needs an update to ad blocker's filters saying "Make a function called isAdDisplayed (or whatever) into a nop that always returns true"
>because it moved on from torrents to streaming.
streaming isn't pirating you mong. if you can't keep up with the conversation don't say something stupid.
Popcorn Time, a bazillion Kodi addons, whatever else the kids are using these days, I haven't kept up since that's not how I consume my media. But no, a lot of piracy is streaming now.
>Make a function called isAdDisplayed (or whatever) into a nop that always returns true
That measure would have to be custom crafted for every website.
Why are you so triggered by this may I ask?
It seems like ads are hitting critical mass for the second time in Internet history. In the early 2000s ads were fucking everywhere, constant, in your face, bright, flashing, obnoxious and chained together into some kind of inescapable hell. Then suddenly, it stopped... for years it seemed like ads went down to a tolerable level. But for the past few years ads having been ramping up more and more, getting increasingly obnoxious and invasive. The layover is the pop-up 2.0, and they're reaching levels of late 90s insanity again.
Why did advertisers move away from obnoxious/intrusive ads in the early 2000s? And more importantly, why are they moving back to the old model after having abandoned it for the last decade?
I prefer the nuclear option. Switch from uBlock/Adblock to AdNauseam.
The solution to the ridiculous ads out there is to "click" all of them.
a.) not really. More like every ad exchange or adblock-blocker. And while there are a lot of those, there aren't nearly as many of them as there are websites.
b.) they already keep really huge lists with tens of thousands of filtered domains and regexes.
>fixing other people's computers
>for free
Get a load of this guy.
> I don't like ads
> I hate the ad industry
> Therefore I will install an extension that will click every ad I come across for me, which will put money in the pockets of the ad industry that I hate
Fucking brilliant m8
>rent ad space
>sublet my rented ad space to shady af advertiser
>shady advertiser infects their ads with ransomware
>split ransoms 50/50 with shady advertiser with my clean hands
>????
ezpz thanks normies
One, the when the dot-com bubble burst the money train stopped. Two, that's about when pop-up blockers started seeing general use among web surfers.
>Popcorn Time
le special pirate club
>a bazillion Kodi addons
le no support open source DIY box with 0.1% uptake
>But no, a lot of piracy is streaming now.
it isn't, though.
The target is the companies doing the advertising. If they find out that 99/100 of the clicks they're paying lots of money for is fraudulent, they're liable to stop paying, thinking that web advertising just isn't worth the money. When they stop paying, the ad industry's revenue source goes away.
people who use adblock are essentially thieves. you're consuming content for free and not supporting the people who worked hard to make that content.
>And more importantly, why are they moving back to the old model after having abandoned it for the last decade?
because $$$$$
online ads is a 100B+ industry
even if you capture 0.1% of this, congrats you have 100million buckaroos
people are desperate for that sweet dough
You're still installing an extension that is expressly designed to provide ad revenue to shitty advertisers.
No, they'll just switch to affiliate payout schemes instead of pay-per-click.
>TrackMeNot
>issuing randomized queries to common search-engines, TrackMeNot obfuscates your search profile
Wow, this is also brilliant.
But advertisers don't even try to do pop-ups anymore, do they? They're aware of how frusterated that makes potential customers, right? So why move back to a model that's proven to fail?
The dot com bubble burst because it was overvalued, and it was overvalued because advertisers and investors seemed to think that the digital equivalent of running up to someone and screaming in their face was an effective way of doing marketing.
Is this kind of ultra-desperate marketing strategy indicative of a second .com collapse? God I hope so.
Every normie I talk to about piracy immediately mentions popcorn time.
>if I put "le" before a statement I refute it
wew lad
ads were obnoxious at day 0
I have it, i don't see ads and the advertisers are happy. Win Win
Antivirus software protects you against malicious attacks that were released two weeks ago.
Adblock protects you against malicious attacks that were released ten seconds ago.
Fuck advertisers.
>They're aware of how frusterated that makes potential customers, right?
they don't care. pop-ups just don't work. they are associated with 'intrusive ads' even to casual users.
> So why move back to a model that's proven to fail?
because it works
>Is this kind of ultra-desperate marketing strategy indicative of a second .com collapse? God I hope so.
are you bitter that other people are making money hand over fist?
Marketers drink their own kool-aid is what goes on. They delude themselves into thinking that advertising is a good thing that people appreciate, because marketing naturally attracts extroverted, optimistic, enthusiastic people, and its what they spend all day doing.
If your (well-paid) job was to strangle kittens, after a few years you'd be talking about how important it was that kittens get strangled, and how it served a vital role in the economy, etc etc. People don't like the cognitive dissonance of realizing they do something shitty for a living.
Websites that use this don't get visited again, it's that simple. They don't get to use my bandwidth to display their bullshit partner products.
If your content is worthwhile then I'd consider paying, but forced ads instantly tell me the type of character they are.
>Every normie I talk to about piracy
normies use netflix so these 'normies' you talk to aren't normies at all
This is exactly right.
Why the fuck else would advertisers think that consumers want to do shit like "view ads to stay connected with their favorite products and services"?
My economics professor went on a huge rant about how marketing ruins everything and it is essentially an attempt to introduce information asymmetry into the market, which leads to all sorts of non-optimal consequences. It was hilarious because there were a ton of marketing majors in the class.
I just do sponsored content that looks like real content. And self hosted ads.
It seems to work pretty well.
uBlock Origin already has a filter that blocks the script. Get cucked, Schlomo.
>streaming is not piracy
is this bait?
you know that its literally the same as downloading it, just in shitty quality
Why do website owners expect to be compensated for their hobby? People used to pay for web servers when they were very expensive and not run ads because the owners themselves wanted to host the content, today hosting is dirt cheap and there's tons of free services as well, why are they trying to buck the cost onto the readers when in reality its their decision to host the content. This mentality is on par with someone paying to see your twitter posts or your family photos. If you want to host the content then you pay to host it, get a real job.
>no source
>you know that its literally the same as downloading it, just in shitty quality
piracy is unauthorised use of media
streaming is playing it as you receive it
they are orthogonal concepts
are you stupid?
Soon your browser will get a Google addon, that will automatically deduct 0.02 cents from your bank account when you visit a website.
Downloading and "streaming" are the exact same thing from the technical point of view. The only difference is with streaming you save the file to a temp folder somewhere and only access it one time before the browser deletes it for you, instead of saving to your Documents or whatever and viewing the file as many times as you want.
I don't know the difference in terms of legality, nor do I care about that anyways.
income and losing are so badly used, triggered accountant
>What is Anti-Adblock Killer
Kill yourself, jew.
Meant for
get an actual business model like paid accounts then, you fucking mong
sites with advertisers are beggars that dont just sit around with a cup but harass everyone until they pay
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>Blocking me from blocking content is stealing
>IRONIC POST BEGINS HERE
If i spend a lot of time clicking on your content, i generate click money. yet i get no compensation for my hard work. why should you get all the money, when i'm the one doing the hard work.
>IRONIC POST ENDS HERE
>This is the reversed mindset of bad content creators
all bad products/services are ad-supported. if the product/service was any good in the first place, people would pay for and render the need of ads useless in the first place.
>ads are life support for bad content/creations
>only untalented creators make bad content
>stop making bad content, and you don't need ads
>Downloading and "streaming" are the exact same thing from the technical point of view.
nice goalpost-moving
it was piracy vs streaming and now its downloading vs streaming
try again
Get off my website if you think my content is bad and don't want to see my shit.
If they had sane ads instead of malware, I might be inclined to disable adblocking on a per-site basis.
If you only want people who're paying to see your content, there's a way to do that. It's called a paywall. Set up a login form and only allow users who send you money to log in. It works for the Wall Street Journal.
Unless you think nobody is willing to actually fork over cash for your content. Then you have a problem, your business is fundamentally unviable, it's just being papered over by ad money. Like when VCs fund a company that never makes a profit, and the company lasts only as long as the VC's gullibility.
Blocking the script fixes this instantly. No need to bother with fucking around with anything else. 9/10 times sites that do this are not really worth your time to begin with. It's a nothing of value was lost if they go under.
That's impossible because then Google won't rank you.
Well that's your problem, not mine, now isn't it.
>ads are one of the main vectors for malware, even on non "shady" sites, just in case there are any Common Sense 2017 shills here
>when my computer gets infected with some ransomware trash I lose things of measurable value
>besides the fact that it's pretty difficult to find out what website displayed the infected ad, they're not responsible anyways, because they didn't host that shit themselves
>the ad network isn't responsible either
>the ad provider is almost impossible to find now, might not even be responsible, but a victim as well
>because I turned off my adblocker I now have a monetary loss and nobody to sue
when the websites that profit from the ads start taking responsibility for malware I'll consider turning off my adblocker
then again if they can be sued for malicious ads they might host the ads themselves and then the adblocker won't detect them anyways.
>>when my computer gets infected with some ransomware trash I lose things of measurable value
if they are no valuable why did you not have backups?
>good content is protected by paywalls
>shit content is protected by ads
imagine what would happen if pewdiepie put up a paywall for his content. he'd realize pretty fast that his autistic rants aren't amusing enough for people to pay for.
i'm definitely for paying for quality content, but ads only give incentive to make content that is "good enough"
>we don't need is not an financial solution
>we need an creative revolution
I'm not the one posting all kinds of retarded theories to justify ad blockers.
It's pretty retarded to judge the quality by the content by the fact that the website has ads.
*quality of the content
>pls disable adblock
Okay I gu...
>page hijackers, redirectors, popunders, you just won, hornymilf39 wants to fuck, jlist
On second thought, no.
>imagine what would happen if pewdiepie put up a paywall for his content. he'd realize pretty fast that his autistic rants aren't amusing enough for people to pay for.
which is why he doesn't and rake in 10M+ per year
your assertion is as stupid as saying "hurr if google charges $1 per search nobody would use them" no shit sherlocke
why is it my fault you drove over my caltrops with your car? don't you carry a replacement tire?
seriously though, backups cost time, and usually at least a few hours, if not days or weeks of work aren't on that backup. even with a recent backup it still takes a few hours to restore everything back to a working state and these hours could be spent better