Name a language more difficult than C++
Name a language more difficult than C++
John Gonzalez
Hunter Scott
brainfuck
Luke Martinez
If you ignore syntax it's pretty basic
Grayson Gonzalez
Intel syntax assembler.
Landon Barnes
Haskell
John James
Since OP is a vague motherfucker, we have to assume syntax is a factor
Isaac Phillips
Chinese
Joseph Flores
Malbolge
Connor Flores
Times new roman
Luke Anderson
Cobol
Sebastian Martin
Chinese grammar is really easy and if you already know moon runes its EZPZ.
why would you be here if you dont know runes?
Cameron Morgan
Rust
Assembly
Jayden Long
chinese
Hunter Flores
chinese is easy you dont even have to conjugate for tense you just say
Fag Wednesday eat soy sauce.
Fag Tomorrow eat soy sauce.
Fag all last year eat soy sauce.
In French or Japanese there's 9+ ways to conjugate each of those sentences.
Joseph Campbell
Chinese C++
Elijah Hill
fuck you cunt
Benjamin Moore
Is it, though?
How hard can it be if you already know C and OOP?
Ethan Gomez
What game?
Daniel Bell
Really hard.
More like more bloated than C++.
Nicholas Allen
HolyC
Lincoln Myers
Something still in dev
>one page spec
yeah no
Mason Gray
>tedious/annoying = hard
Juan Martinez
Binary machine code, a.k.a the language that your computer speaks. Yes, no matter what partycular PC you have. Windows, Linux, Macintosh - they all speak in ones and zeros.
Mason Roberts
*AT&T syntax assembler
ftfy
Ryder Fisher
This is the only right answer.
Daniel Green
Operating systems don't change the CPU architecture or instruction set. Windows, Linux, and Macintosh only speak the same language if they are all running on the same architecture.
Christopher Johnson
PHP. May seem easy and straightforward, but especially when you dig deep, you always notice something that doesn't act like you expect at all and version exclusive bugs.
Feel free to look at Symfony's source code to see some of the most insane workarounds you have to make to get the language to behave as you'd expect. ErrorHandler.php from the debug component is my favorite. I'd never be able to replicate this.
Benjamin Anderson
>let's require sigils on numbers and registers so that people can differentiate between their "eax" and "0" labels and the actual register and number!
AT&T assembly was designed by retards, for retards. Thank God ARM assembly basically removed sigils from their UAL syntax
Aiden Flores
Basically, sigils in assembly languages are retarded shit and I fucking rage every time I think about how AT&T syntax is the default in the GNU toolchain
Ryan Gutierrez
Js
Matthew Bennett
Unlambda
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And piet, pic related.
Michael Ross
nobody in here has mentioned Ook! yet?
hello world:
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Nathan Long
中文好簡單,你怎麼不來學
Jace Butler
Nobody knows all of C++. They only know the bits they need to get their job done.
Brody Collins
Ocaml
Austin Gray
What game is that? Looks comfy.
Ian Barnes
How the fuck has someone not said C yet? It's literally the harder version of C++ and the most obvious answer.
Kevin Brooks
Sup Forums Quest: The Venture into Deep Autism
Kayden Mitchell
Don't know what you're smoking but C is very simple compared to C++
Levi Brown
Assembly
Andrew Powell
Sigils in in AT&T/GAS syntax allow the assembler to be less complex. It removes a layer of abstraction from Intel syntax.
mov eax, DWORD [rdi]
=
source operand determines instruction size
mov eax, 5
=
destination operand determines instruction size
movl $5, %eax
=
Developer specifies instruction size implicitly, can be converted to machine language in one pass
Not that any of this is relevant on modern 64 bit systems. But on some embedded systems all you have is a gas syntax assembler. It shouldn't be rage inducing because it's legacy syntax and it can easily be converted to Intel syntax.
Kayden Sanders
grammar may be easy but nothing else about Chinese is
Adrian James
are you saying that things are tedious and annoying are easy?
this is the most retarded post of the day, congrats
Brandon Young
>Traditional Chinese
you used translate for that, only old-ass Mao survivers who wouldn't be on this board use traditional
Adam Green
>tfw speaking both those languages
It's hell to learn but damn when you know how to use all that shit, it gets awesome
Samuel Bell
understand c++ type deduction alone is something nobody has mastered yet.
Jaxon Hill
how is that a difficult language? its just a bf derivative, so nothing complicated.
Anthony Brooks
C+=
Andrew Campbell
Beeswax
Befunge
SNUSP
Isaiah Brooks
Object oriented COBOL
Logan Cox
>C++ is just object oriented C
kill yourself
Asher Johnson
Dumbass traditional is used in Taiwan Hong Kong and Macau.
Michael Miller
it is though
Carson Thompson
Common Lisp.
Jacob Peterson
back in last century, yeah
c++ has grown into something entirely different
Gabriel Walker
rvalue references and move semantics, automatic type deduction, templates, lambda expressions, operator overloading,...
it's just like C
Adam Moore
c++ is easy.
but only if you dont care that much about writing portable, safe, efficient programs.
other languages are the same, except some might guarantee portability or safety to some degree.
Easton Hughes
Wut? Doesn't look crazy. Just gotta spend some time reading php documentation, then start plugging shit in.
Leo Peterson
The problem is that it allows terrible label names like "10" or "eax". Parsing "anything that begins with a digit" as a number has been done since forever, and would work just as efficiently as sigils.
Hudson Davis
>not writing your .exes directly in a hex editor
Jason Diaz
>.exe
disgusting
Jonathan Sullivan
Immediate numbers without sigils are parsed as addresses or offsets
Gabriel Clark
>Js
Underrated post.
Daily reminder that with just the six characters ( ) [ ] + and ! , you have a turing complete subset of Javascript which can execute arbitrary code.
Luke Martin
nice story bro
Hudson Mitchell
Aaron Johnson
DELET
Levi Wood
>If you ignore syntax
You mean the part that you have to actually work with?
Matthew Sullivan
WTF someone wrote a Jquery clone in JSfuck.
Michael Morales
Yes, and this is completely unambiguous in almost every instruction, except maybe for some forms of jmp. Nasm handles numbers like that and it never leads to problems, because it defaults to the common (relative) offset and has a prefix you can use in the rare case you need an absolute jump
Anthony Watson
hot
Jacob Murphy
C+++
Caleb Flores
Well it certainly has everything beat in needless complexity. Look at the AST of one of your projects that use the standard. It's brutal.
Cooper Ward
This guys job is to know everything and tell others bits of it. He doesn't even program anymore. He's detached from actual software development.
He does make for a very funny speaker though.
Oliver Brooks
What's difficult about C++? It's just big, not difficult I think.
Haskell is difficult to write actually useful programs.
Joshua Lee
Haskell ain't hard. Everything is simple and coherent.
Gabriel Clark
What is transcompiler?
Wyatt Allen
assembly is not hard
Nathaniel Phillips
just leave this here
esolangs.org
Gabriel Wood
Objective C, having to use that to create GUI on Mac. Such an unbearable tedious piece of shit.
Levi Powell
asm
Brayden Roberts
it is
Luke Foster
not
Joshua Thomas
you just blew my mind, friend.
Michael Jackson
c+++++++++++++++++++++++
Jacob Campbell
assembler
Brandon Gutierrez
Rust
Joseph Sullivan
aarch64 assembly
t. armfag
Brandon Collins
Is that pic relevant? Is it a C++ game or something?
I'll ask a followup question: Name a language more useful than C++
Ryder Ross
Honestly, the "difficulty" is why I like it. When I started learning programming, I thought high level shit would be good for a beginner. I quickly realized that wouldn't work for me. Maybe I'm just some kind of autismo, but I couldn't stand to not know how things work under the hood.
Dominic Hughes
While this may not be the only right answer as there are other languages that are harder than C++, this is certainly the best answer as I am not aware of any languages which are harder than Malbolge.
Caleb Wright
Brainfuck
Parker Scott
MIPS
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Anthony White
It's a simple language, but building larger programs in it is not necessarily easy, as C APIs aren't typically very good, and the conventions that different libraries and programmers use can be wildly different. Compare C's char* to std::string, for example. Concatenating two strings in C can be a pain, but in C++, std::string has overloaded operator+ to allow for easy string concatenation, if I remember correctly. It depends on what you're doing with C, and whatever metric you use to quantify how hard a language it. No doubt C is not hard to learn. It is, like C++, hard to master, and the language itself doesn't help you much.
Mason White
coq
Logan Brooks
A lot of boilerplate and strange syntax left over from trying to be a strict superset of C.
Easton Walker
Haskell, or any of those languages that emBRACE ((((((((((braces))))))))
Aaron Rivera
I'm terribly thorry for you
Luke Davis
God yes Haskell. Its like someone built a language that derives its syntax from mashing the mathematical symbols on a calculator.
Great for memeing on hackernews though, to help spread the pain.
Lincoln Mitchell
Brainfuck has incredibly simple syntax. The problem is that the semantics are not conducive to general purpose programming.
Jaxson Young
Japanese