When can we stop using these?

HDDs are easily the most outdated technology that everyone is still using. Literally anyone who has used an SSD will tell you they are worth it. HDDs are so slow and ginormous and fucking loud, why the hell are we using moving storage in 2017???

>But SSDs are too expensive!
You can get a 500gb for like $150 and often even less than that during sales. 500gb is easily enough for anything since games and the OS are the only thing you need on a drive anyway, put everything else online faggot. If you seriously can't afford to get an SSD you should not own a computer because HDDs are fucking worthless and outdated as floppy disks.

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>He doesn't have 3tb of steam games installed
I feel sorry for you pham

Mass storage

I know right! We can also upload our files to the cloud.

>implying games are not 50-100gb after install.

Not op here but I'm up to 6tb, running off 2x4tb shhd's in raid0

I bought a 500gb 850 evo for 100 bucks last year. Now it's 2017 and they're 150 bucks. Fuck that shit.

Do I get good money selling this thing's magnets

When, 16TB SSD are under 500usd.

>put everything else online faggot
Do you pay to keep your online data on SSDs? Are you a retard?

hdd's still have their uses, especially for things that dont require a lot of speed like music and movies and certian games, but you are right in saying that ssd's are getting bigger, faster and cheaper

>implying you need all those installed and play them all regularly

>500gb for like $150
Or I could buy a HDD for 20 bucks a terabyte.

consumer archive storage, you millenial retard

>3TB of steam games
>not 3TB of chinese cartoons

Look at this homo.

No you jewish piece of shit.

>not having both

see

Maybe if the steam games are all weebshit. But that wouldn't fill up 3 TB, unfortunately.

> When can we stop using these?

When flash density catches up. Right now we're pretty much at a stand still with platter density so it's only a matter of time but as of right now I ain't paying $1600 for 4TB

Whoops meant to type My Sup Forums app is retarded

>mfw hes uploading his precious shit to the botnet

Bought a 256GB nvme ssd with a 1TB "classic" SSD.
Didn't buy a HDD. Did I make the right choice?

You screwed up. You can get 4tb hdds for about $100 apiece and put them in RAID + offsite backups for less.

>You can get a 500gb for like $150
Or I can get a 1TB hdd for a third of that price.
Hard drives will always be superior to SSDs for mass storage.

Newest drives are only half as slow in raw throughput as common ssds tho. And price per gb is unmatched.

This. Why do you need to have all that shit installed 24/7? Only a dozen of my steam games are installed.

until i can get a 2tb ssd for $40, ill keep using ssds as boot drives and hdds as storage drives

waiting on a 4tb version...

>tfw 1tb 960 evo
>tfw 4tb WD black

and i keep some things on Google Drive lol

Blame price fixing.
Anything that uses NAND skyrocketed in price.

Do you guys not have backups or something? All these, 1ssd, 1hdd posts are disturbing.

>he doesn't use a tape backup

>he doesn't backup his data on stone tablets

>he hasn't commited his data in machine code to memory

> 2017
> still no reasonable explanation why should I stop using hdd

SSDfags are the worst

>muh boot times

How often do you boot your fucking computer? I haven't turn mine off in months.

Where? Most 1tb 7200 rpm drives are above $35.

>we
Nigger, just use what you want. HDDs are cheap storage.

>7200RPM

Can you guys fuck off with this meme. If you have your OS and programs installed to your SSD, who gives a fuck how fast your HDD. Just get the slowest one. You can still open movies and music from it nearly instantly.

Tell me when a 2tb SSD doesn't cost half a 2006 car.

>chinese cartoons
what?

>nobody checked this bloke

DIGITS

>20 bucks a terabyte
Where?

when manufacturers will stop with weird inventions like TLC (probably even quad-level cell in the future) as a way to get to $0.045/GB

Lurk for two years before posting .

>4tb for $100
Where

Anyone who buys a new computer without a SSD boot drive is an idiot. That said, for mass storage hard drives are fast enough and they're much cheaper per GB.

>buying something and not having it in your possesion

>there are now 12tb HDDs
When will ssdlets ever catch up lol

Pleb

Steam games are ever in your possession. If you get banned. All your games are gone.

...

>botnet

As if botnets really affected anything besides triggering spergtards.

OP but I can't get 5TB ssds cheap and I dont' need speed for that

I don't need 100 TB of porn on an SSD because I'll never look at all that porn in one sitting. It only matters that I have it.

You can get refurb 3TBs for $60 or so

HDDs are cheaper. Think of all the files you have that really don't need to be on a SSD.

the fuck did you buy that?

The last time I stocked up on storage, I paid $80 for 6TB. So a little more than half the price for six times the storage. When you have a ton of data, HDDs are the way to go. With RAIDZ5 in that server, it easily saturates the client storage, including my NVMe SSD.

My brother's SSD stopped working after only a year's use, and all he had on it was the OS and a few images. Luckily he had enough sense to store the terabytes of important shit on HDD.

>HDDs are so slow and ginormous
>put everything else online
Your argument CAN'T be "HDD is slow" AND "use the cloud", because that option is even slower.

Also
>500GB for $150
And what? Hold like 5 games on it?

Then don't cheat?

Fry's.

Ssd's for OS drive and quick storage.
Hdd for backup and mass storage. Hard to beat approx. 50 bucks for 2 terrabytes.

Why NOT have them preinstalled?
If I suddenly want to play one, I want to play it NOW, not in 10 minutes to an hour when it finishes downloading and installing.

>sshd
I feel bad for you
two hdd with at least some bcache space on an ssd, ideally the entire disk will give much better perofrmance

You're still part of the botnet

I don't give a fuck. There are many games that simply aren't available on physical media. Botnet is a meme, and so are you.

>OS: SSD
>storage/files: HDD

HDDs are still useful, only because of their price. Even a decent laptop of any brand can house an mSATA SSD for boot and a standard 2.5" drive in the SATA bay for storage.

Well when I can get an 10TB SSD (Don't exist yet) (For my server data) without having to rob a bank then I'll consider switching over entirely. Till then (which at this rate will take years) I'll stick with regular hdds. (oh wait, as the years pass hdds will still grow in size while still having price drops, guess that big ssd would be a waste of money after all)

Botnet is a technical term. Search it up.
Not a meme.
Why are you even on here

It's not just the boot times, it also affects the overall responsiveness of your system. If you've got a read/write head doing a fuckton of other shit in the background, responsiveness suffers.

Its not about boot times you retarded brainlet. Its about responsiveness. In a laptop too, its about power consumption and the peace of mind of knowing that if your laptop suffers a fall you don't have to worry about a delicate HDD.

The internet as a whole is a botnet. You are part of the botnet just by being here. If you don't want to be part of the botnet, go live in the woods.

>refurbs
Eh... I mean, factory refurb sounds ok I guess but my autism wants new and used PC parts sounds like there's a reason why they're "used."

>500gb for like $150
meanwhile you can get 3 terrabytes for half that price
and even if you get hacked or install le botnet OS it wont write itself to death in under a week.

>over priced
>fail so easily, you don't even need to plug it in for it to fail (obviously without physically damaging it)
>capable of writing itself to death in under a weeks time
you have to be a complete and utter moron to think paying twice as much for a 6th of the storage is worth it.

How is it a meme you autist? It's the physical description of the drive. Same as how ssds use the nvme meme and say "Oh, ist one second faster than 3dnand so buy it goy!" Fuck off.

>Buying used HDDs
No thx

>he unironically thinks ssds are better

>he doesn't have a computer he lugs around to check SMART and run HDTach

Why not both?

I'm pretty sure there's more to it than that retardedly simple diagram you have.

Oh god...
Its a joke you fucking mongoloid. Is this even a tech board at this point?

Do either of you by any chance have autism?

It's not a joke board, that's for sure.

I have a 4x3TB raidz1 pool. Why the fuck would I ever dream of using SSDs instead in this setup?

Yeah, and for the same price I get 4 TB for an HDD.

Just get RAM to feed the block cache for the price difference. It's faster than your shitty SSD anyway.

>HDDs are so [...] fucking loud
son pls HDD noise the best

Why hate on HDDs and use babby SSDs when you could have your own home fileserver?

Mine has 3 WD Red 3TB drives and I'm looking into getting two more. Cloud is a shitty meme.

>You can get a 500gb SSD for like $150

Or, you can get a 5TB HDD for $145 (on sale two weeks ago for $135).

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Mah nigga

>hdd is making some strange clicking sounds
>no backup
>no money left from my autismbox

wew

>can also upload our files to the cloud
>digits of satan
>gibs me all your data, user

All this anime won't store itself. Plus it makes it easier to travel since I can just access my own files on the go and know that third parties can't access my data.

I fucking know that glorious feel, user.

>You can get a 500gb for like $150
That's ridiculously expensive compared to spinning discs.

Do you run Kodi?

In 2017 people still don't realize that with ssds you're paying for speed not capacity?
Holy shit I thought we went over this in computers 101.

I just bought a 3tb HGST deskstar hopefully it'll last me more then 3 fucking years as opposed to that seagate garbage that lasted me 3yrs and died on me when it went out of fucking warranty

So are any SSDs actually archival grade yet or will they still lose their content when left unpowered for long durations?