Is this true?
Is this true?
Landon Clark
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Easton Nguyen
Yes, builds competition
Nicholas Hall
The exact opposite. Throttling competitors to already existing large businesses, because the large businesses have the money to pay up to be unthrottled suppresses competition.
Jackson Torres
Yes, it makes them consume bullshit slower and potentially makes them frustrated enough to actually fucking do something productive with their life.
Michael Murphy
Fucking this, sounds like a great cure for internet addiction.
Thomas Anderson
If it is true the Orwellian double-speak is tailor made for the sheep that support ruining net neutrality. Haha muricans, this is your grave. You'll only realise when its too late.
Josiah Green
Oh dear, America - you're fucked.
Nolan Perry
Someone needs to add what they really want: Comcast/Time Warner/Verizon VoD, blogs, social media, games, music, and email, while blocking everything else.
Brandon Robinson
If monopolies weren't a thing and the free market could flourish so anyone can make their own IPS, this wouldn't be a problem.
Joshua Walker
yeah it might help me leave Sup Forums when hiro refuses to pay the ameri-ISPs their extortion fees
Charles Reed
>"muh free market"
>in an industry where initial capital costs are by far the largest barrier to entry
Kayden Gray
The reason why it's so high is because monopolies made it that way.
Zachary Wood
Nice fake news.
Christian Gray
>mom, i posted it again
Dominic Walker
>The existing no-throttling rule "bans the impairment or degradation of lawful Internet traffic or use of a non-harmful device, subject to reasonable network management practices," the NPRM says. "We seek comment on whether this rule is still necessary, particularly for smaller providers. How does the rule benefit consumers, and what are its costs? When is 'throttling' harmful to consumers? Does the no-throttling rule prevent providers from offering broadband Internet access service with differentiated prioritization that benefits consumers? Does the no-throttling rule harm latency-sensitive applications and content?"
>THE FCC SAID THROTTLING IS GOOD!!@@!@
>FUCK DRUMPFFFF!@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Zachary Peterson
>When is 'throttling' harmful to consumers?
Different user, but that's just another way of saying it's a good thing without actually saying it.
Aaron Fisher
>how IPS's would like the Internet to be
Discarded.
Lucas Foster
So is UPS having an overnight shipping option that you pay extra for also 'throttling'?
Jayden Robinson
>Make shitty website out of my ORIGINAL IDEA DO NOT STEAL
>Back then i didn't have to pay artificial fees to compete against other websites
>Now you get fucked from the get go unless you're a big company already
Brandon Parker
What artificial fees? You mean to your ISP?
Jaxon Rodriguez
That's optional and it doesn't harm you in the end. Throttling is forced upon you.
Jayden Walker
It's paid prioritization. How is it any different than throttling?
Elijah Moore
>Does the no-throttling rule prevent providers from offering broadband Internet access service with differentiated prioritization that benefits consumers? Does the no-throttling rule harm latency-sensitive applications and content?"
Say hi to pic related. Removing neutrality is being spun as a benefit (to smaller providers! lol. before they're bought out). Enjoy muricans. Those that support this are either going to profit from it or are blind to the damage it will cause you.
Nathaniel Perez
>le reddit image
Brandon Cooper
>monopolies made the cost of entry extremely high
>"I dont understand whats the big deal, just put up hundreds of miles of fiber, thousands of routers, and build expensive server farms to serve the customers. whats the cost?"
You realize google, GOOGLE, had to quit due to cost of infrastructure, right?
inb4 internet cables is the new roads
Jackson Morales
Name a single provider that wants to do that.
Kevin Ortiz
Again, you're comparing a diservice forced upon you to a benefit you can pay for if you wish to, but don't have to.
Samuel Hall
Sure dude, I'll just start my own mom and pop ISP when I don't like Spectrum's service anymore.
Jose Lee
Regulation and laws against new ISPs would be a bigger thing to worry about.
Michael Gray
All of them if they could get away with it.
Daniel Hernandez
because the internet doesnt work that way, faggot, it costs nothing to speed up the delivery of a network packet (to a degree, you know what I mean faggolio), but it costs a ton of jet fuel to overnight a package with UPS.
Ian Nelson
Providers are furiously masturbating to get that implemented.
Jacob Torres
Yes, internet is free. Everyone should get a gigabit connection for free. I mean it costs nothing to send electrons through wires already in the ground!
Xavier Johnson
>just because it's not in front of me means it can't exist ever
Now name me a single cable provider that offers every single channel together (no tiers) for a single flat fee.
Nathaniel Lopez
Nice source, faggots.
Xavier Nelson
twc before they were separated from their parent company and bought by charter.
Comcast, see netflix.
Ethan Perez
The only difference is how the paperwork is set up in the background... both are corporations creating artificial scarcity using government-backed monopolies to jack up the price on something that society basically fucking runs on.
Jaxson Moore
I'm getting the disservice of only getting regular shipping speed if I don't pay extra for overnight. It's extortion. It's literally another shoah.
Colton Price
Does UPS own mail-order stores?
ISPs are all owned by multimedia conglomerates who are in direct competition with each other and independent content makers. UPS gains nothing by throttling anyone to death since they don't have a horse in that race. ISPs do.
Jason Green
Completely wrong argument. Your mom Taquisha must have dropped you while in custody.
Isaiah Martin
What about Comcast and Netflix? You mean those fake news articles paid for by Netflix lobbyists because Netflix was too cheap to increase their connection speeds to meet demand, and blamed it on Comcast?
Liam Torres
>I would love to be forced to get much slower internet than what I usually get
Nobody ever said that, most people can shrug off waiting a few days extra for their amazon order.
Jaxson Clark
>93% profit margins doesnt mean 100% profit margins, so it must cost the company something!
>Therefore, the consumer, content provider, and the website host has to pay out though the ass for that profit margin!
Lucas Scott
>it costs nothing to speed up the delivery of a network packet
Sure it doesn't. Let's give everyone unlimited internet speeds and see what happens.
Sebastian Rogers
So if they're not going to do it, what's the big deal with having the regulations in place?
Do you think that if net neutrality regulations were not in place, we'd have more competition in the ISP market? Do you think people are happy with their current internet service? More competition would be welcome as it is in the ISP world, the problem is that it has an insane barrier to entry.
Carson Jenkins
Where's the proof that you're going to get much slower internet? All I see is ISPs using this opportunity to provide better service than the standard at a higher price for latency critical and important applications.
Lincoln Wood
>implying
they are even working with the government to get it implemented and have been shooting at it from multiple angles. Ex: SOPA
Andrew Barnes
You sure google didn't get constantly sued when trying to enter markets that had no compete clauses on all telephone lines issued by local and state governments?
Jose Roberts
Comcast had a revenue of $80 billion and a net income of $9 billion in 2016. Nice straw man.
Levi White
>fake news
>$0.01 has been depositied in your comcast account
you realize they could have done all of the upgrading on their end? and that comcast was the one grinding it to a halt, and demanding netflix to pay for THEIR equipment? thats like you stopping your mom from sucking dick, and demanding payment to put the cock back into her mouth.
Adrian Thompson
>better service than the standard at a higher price
American ISPs provide worse service at higher prices compared to other countries.
Jack Gonzalez
Why should Comcast do the upgrading for free? If you paid for a 10Mb/s connection, and now suddenly want 100Mb/s, are you going to demand your ISP give you that upgrade at no cost?
Oliver Cox
That's a fucking lie and you know it. The U.S is ahead of countries like France, Spain, and Germany in terms of average internet speed, and tied with the UK, despite having a much lower population density.
Cameron Powell
Just wait until they no longer have to serve rural areas.
Christopher Wilson
because as a teir 1 isp, THAT'S THEIR JOB
go argue this with level 3 for fucks sake
Grayson Cook
It's not a lie and I know it.
Levi Wright
I paid Comcast so they can connect me to Netflix so I can watch their videos. Comcast throttles that connection even though I paid my bill. Who is wrong here?
Aaron Morgan
Because the government gave them massive tax payers money with the Telecomunications act so they could improve their system but they got the money and didnt upgrade shit. They have to pay for it.
Parker Jones
Just wait until they don't serve anyone but big companies! No internet for us!
Jason Torres
>Why should Comcast do the upgrading for free
Because he'll say "fuck you, I'm going with instead!"
Oh wait, it's illegal for to offer service in Comcast areas. Oopsies.
Hunter Turner
Also the big name google contractors laying cable caused millions in damages to existing infrastructure. Lawsuits on lawsuits, plus google saw what they would have to deal with with their own lines eventually
Nolan Jackson
You're actually retarded
Matthew Sullivan
No, you pay Comcast to connect you to the internet. It's not Comcast's fault that Netflix doesn't have enough bandwidth to serve their customers.
Asher Carter
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Connor Ross
John Russell
Kayden Jenkins
Fucking retard. He's saying that Comcast is throttling the connection, despite Netflix having sufficient bandwidth.
Ayden Evans
>And while that all sounds impressive, it’s worth noting that the U.S. as a whole still lags behind much of the world.
Damn, US internet really is shit, huh?
Samuel Morales
But they aren't, and Netflix did not have sufficient bandwidth. Stop reading fake news.
blog.streamingmedia.com
Grayson Diaz
>I dont read articles from companies who actually do what i am describing for a living
Hudson Mitchell
>says fake news
>links daily caller
Gavin Cruz
>fake news
>bgr
Juan Miller
That's funny because it's the tier 1 ISPs who are the ones actually throttling Netflix.
blog.streamingmedia.com
Isaiah Sanchez
It's true. Most of bandwidth is used by plebeians streaming entertainment and other kinds of degeneracy through the internet. Those garbage ought to be throttled. Cutting these services of would be a service to the people addicted to them. I feel bad for those people, they should be helped.
Joshua Myers
>says fake news
>doesnt read source
All your source is saying is that TWC aint investing shit into their infrastructure in 2013
Isaac Perry
>Still, the United States only ranks 25 out of 39 nations in 2013, according to the FCC. It said the United States was behind many countries including France, Canada, Germany and Japan — but ahead of Brazil, Chile, Mexico, and Israel.
Americans are ahead of BR's at least. That's something to be proud of
Ryder Smith
Nice reading comprehension.
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Tyler Torres
>And Israel
Well, that's also something to be proud of, doing better than israel.
Ayden Brooks
We can only hope that one day they throttle Sup Forums and we are released from this torment.
James Lee
>corporate slave
>defending the dick that fuck them over
Jose Rivera
Except the U.S is now ahead of France, Germany, and Canada.
Anthony Collins
and is comcast a teir 1 provider?
if so, then yes, they absolutely are throttling netflix, and also added bonus, netflix is already paying them to do their fucking jobs
if not, then why the fuck is netflix paying comcast? they arent providing infrastructure to netflix.
Either way, you are retarded, and if you are a troll, I've got a nice image to show you.
Austin Mitchell
Netflix was not paying Comcast. They are now paying Comcast because paying for a direct connection is cheaper than dealing with scummy middlemen like Level 3 and Congent. You could at least read the articles before posting and making yourself look like an idiot.
Bentley Allen
>fool.com
>litteral shill investor website
>$0.05 has been deposited into your Spectrum™ account
Jayden Martinez
> (((You)))
Wyatt Walker
And still behind a dozen other countries that don't have retarded legislators trying to let ISPs fuck you in the ass.
Kevin Ramirez
>scummy middlemen like Level 3 and Congent
>I litterally dont know how internet achitecture works
I bet you think that theres a direct connection from your ISP to google too.
Nathan Perez
They're behind countries like South Korea and Japan who have an extremely urbanized and dense population making it much cheaper and easier to lay cables.
Justin Hall
Let's be real here. Most of internet is absolute waste of time and money. We need the isp to save us from this peril. If there was an isp that filtered all the useless time waste away, I would subscribe in a minute.
Jose Morgan
25mbs down costs $80/month here, and has a cap of 300GB. $30 extra/month for "unlimited". This is a major city, too, not bumblefuck nowhere. These companies will do anything as long as they can get away with it.
Justin Flores
There is. Even the libtard news site you get your news from confirms it.
arstechnica.com
Jordan Baker
>Most of internet is absolute waste of time
This is false. Unless you mean popular internet, such as social media. And regardless, it's arbitrary what is and isn't a "waste of time".
James Campbell
Interesting
but from the same article, retard
>"Content companies sometimes pay ISPs for direct connections, but this practice has been controversial of late. Netflix, which accounts for about a third of peak Internet traffic in North America, has secured free connections to some ISPs. But Comcast and Verizon asked Netflix to pay, which the company did under protest. "
Christopher Thompson
I want an isp that filters away all the ads on a network level. Obama tried to make this illegal but thank god we are now saved.
Gabriel Powell
>implying Sweden, Norway, and Finland have high population density compared to the US
Aiden Jackson
>Obama tried to make this illegal but thank god we are now saved
Yep, thank god I can now get ads injected from my ISP instead!
Gabriel James
>Netflix somehow made deals with small local ISPs to let them peer unbalanced transit for free
>this means somehow that it's immoral for other companies to charge for it when that's how it has always worked
Jose Perez
>not using HTTPS
Carson Torres
oh, and just to add on as a PS, they are still doing it
Matthew Richardson
Actually, that is exactly why google is pushing so hard for HTTPS, because Comcast and the likes are fucking them out of revenue.