/pcbg/ - PC Building General-- LTT Edition Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions.
State the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or improve specs. List the games or software you use most often. Use common sense and put some effort into your queries. GOOGLE IT FIRST
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com >General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice (which is pretty outdated/shit), Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed) >Semi-outdated information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc. wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>Pentium G4560 remains the best if your budget is only around $500. >The Ryzen 1700 is the only R7 worth purchasing. >i5 edges out R5 for gaming, R5 wins in apps. >i3 are no longer worth getting with ZERO exceptions. The budget choice is the G4560. Otherwise get an i5/r5. >Whoever saying locked i5s were useless were hedging on great R5 performance... oh well. >The R5 1600 is the best all around chip for the price, it's a better choice than an R7 for gaming. >RX 500 series around 10% better than 400s >for budget builds, consider a mATX setup for case/mobo savings >RX 550 not worth it over 460 for esports builds
There's been a huge upswing in disinformation in these threads, and in the community in general. At the end of the day, YOU are the one who loses if you take bad advice.
Watch out for falsified infographics/benchmarks
If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with and report.
That kid is going to commit suicide in a few years.
Gabriel Long
should I get an 8 gb RX 580 or a 4 gb RX 580, all I play is CSGO and LOL but I want it to last a long time, also I'm on a tight budget ($750)
Elijah Evans
true
Isaiah Morris
he is rich he won't. He will waste time with games but he will also recive tone of education and traning forced on him by his parents, he will be going to extra lessons/clubs etc. each and every day and his mom will drive him there. He will be happy all his life and end up as your boss. Poor people commit suicide. t.poor person
Grayson Ward
rich people can commit suicide too.
t. rich person
Cooper Peterson
That's bold, coming from a literal poorfag. Look kid, I grew up in Scottsdale, and while I may be privileged, rich people still commit suicide. All the material possessions in the world don't mean shit if your mental health is shit. Look at that kid and his smile, and his dead eyes. He's clearly not happy.
Samuel Allen
u are so wrong my man
Brody Young
can someone red pill me on sky lake and ryzen? which one is better
Nicholas Butler
I see i offended some special snowflakes. >rich people can commit suicide too. yes they can but its rare Not a right board to school you on about psychology sociology economic and it correlation. >rich people still commit suicide. and it makes it in to news because its rare and unexpected >mental health is shit. funny because >material possessions in the world are connected
>Look at that kid and his smile, and his dead eyes its forced smile he literally dont give a fuck about 1080 sli his parents bought him it wont make maincraft run any faster than it is now on what ever 980ti or simmilar he has instaled.
Jace Thompson
>better netiher really
sky lake is better for pure gaming but ryzen is better for if you want stuff in the background or apps and shit the only i5 I would get is a 6600k (and oc it) only i7 I would get is a 6700k (and oc it) and pentium g4560 is king of budget until ryzen r3 comes along, which could dethrone it ryzen 1400 is not worth getting in my opinion neither is the 1500 but the 1600 is perfect if you are a stream boy
1700 is the best of current procs I would buy, as 8 cores and 16 threads, and I render and number crunch more than I play vidya
need anything else
Colton Taylor
price point? application? Intel has higher ipc and better virtual core's technology amd has more cores in general for the price
Isaac Roberts
ryzen for apps, skylake/kaby for gaming
Nicholas Miller
What's better for light gaming (no competitive shit, most single player RPGs) and keeping 20 tabs open at once?
Adrian Sanders
>light gaming (no competitive shit, most single player RPGs) and keeping 20 tabs open at once get ryzen 1600
Enjoy gaming on the best rig you could build m8. Just watch your cpu temps the first few days and see how she runs.
Carson King
where's your cpu cooler?
Samuel Murphy
whoops, can't read
Levi Jones
...
Ryan Cruz
i'm giving him the correct recommendation
if cs go is trully all you play go for 4gb
but >i want it to last suggest that it isnt the case so get 8gb 4 core ryzen are really bad value proposition
Carson Bailey
Best performance CPU for gaming/emulatin? I do occasionally dick around with drawings and shit, but nothing like video editing. Maybe might stream vidya for friends to watch. I also just browse the internet alot, but that's not really a factor in a cpu.
I'm thinking maybe i7.
Also, liquid cooler. Y/N? I'm thinking of getting a noctua of some kind, but if the difference is that much I may consider it.
Also thinking of getting a nice midtower. Preferably with dust filters and at least one drive bay (lotta dry days where I live sometimes). Enthoo pro M looks nice, but I heard something about lack of hdd bays for it?
Benjamin Wood
also
>budget
Don't worry about it. I'm literally sitting on four digits worth of cast atm.
Hit me.
Kevin Stewart
I want to get a blower style overclocked 1080Ti. I'm stuck between getting an Asus Turbo or and MSI Aero. Can anyone help me decide and provide evidence for their argument?
Kayden Price
I'm lost, i never come to Sup Forums, but was wondering, what's the best anti-virus for linux mint/ubuntu with realtime(tm) threat protection? asking for a friend. >inb4 none
Cooper Gonzalez
Is... is he playing 3 different games of Minecraft at once? Each screen is different
Zachary Perry
>4 core ryzen are really bad value proposition Yeah, but still better value than an i5 if someone can't spend the extra $40 for a 1600 and/or doesn't want to overclock.
Adam Murphy
if your goal is "muh frame rate", the only things that matter are the gpu and cpu. you are wasting money on your power supply, case, ram, and mobo. If you bought the bare minimum for these you could have the same frame rate for a fraction of the cost, by only "splurging" on the cpu/gpu.
Christian King
>skimping on your PSU and motherboard >for a k processor Are you retarded? And no, my goal was to have an all around nice build.
Oliver Ward
PSU die often, they are vulnerable and even the best ones die every year or two. you're wasting money friendo. >motherboard are you actually plugging a card in that isn't your gpu? if the answer is no you are spending wayyyyy too much on your mobo.
I mean, my argument here is obviously based on "bang for the buck" so if you're a rich fag and literally don't care, please stop me.
Gavin Torres
>PSU die often, they are vulnerable and even the best ones die every year or two. Holy fuck, have you never bought a PSU for more than $30? A good one should last well over four or five years. Look at all the OEM ones that have lasted decades.
>are you actually plugging a card in that isn't your gpu? if the answer is no you are spending wayyyyy too much on your mobo. Yes, and extra PCI slots are not what you get for spending more. I'm planning to overclock and a $50 board will hinder that dramatically.
Ethan Edwards
>PSU die often, they are vulnerable and even the best ones die every year or two
>light gaming is dumb term because its the casual games that demand the most resources you can run cs go on potato and be pro at it
Caleb Mitchell
>even the best ones die every year or two user, for everyone's sanity, please stop posting.
Chase Sanchez
what i meant by light gaming is that im not looking to run the newest triple a games at ultra settings 4k resolution as soon as they come out.
what kind of advantages does the 1600 have over the 1500? to me it looked like it would be a very minimum increase.
Jordan Robinson
>4gb
Camden Collins
longevity here and now with gpus in your price range you wont feel much of a difference but cpu usually goes through 2 or even 3 gpu swaps so it is worth to pay up a little bit. Especially since you get 50% phisical cores. >triple a games at ultra settings 4k resolution good because you wont now get 580 8gb and seve yourself buyer remorses
we are talking about vram and he specifically pointed the gpu model you can get away with 460 2gb if you only play cs go but that's beside the point
Alexander James
While it's true PSU's are usually the first thing to go and croak on you, a good one can easily last for years. user is exaggerating a bit.
Getting one that's a little more than you need may not be a bad idea. A little extra breathing room can't hurt.
Note I said a -little- breathing room. You don't get a 1200 watt PSU when all you need is like 500. That's just stupid. A 550 or 600 would be more reasonable.
Benjamin Hall
you don't need a $200 psu that's gonna crap out in 2 years, why not piss your money away on something else that might never break? also a 600w is overkill.
OP don't listen to any of these unknowledgeable richfags who have no idea what "budget conscious" means. A psu that does the job and costs $60 is all you need, plan to replace it in a few years, certainly replace it when you get random shutdowns and weird noises from your case - lest you find yourself relacing your overpriced mobo too.
Jeremiah Roberts
you literally don't need any anti-virus on linux m8.
Carter Gonzalez
>$200
My PSU was about $70 when I bought it in like 2013 and it still works flawlessly.
Logan Wilson
I7-7700hq vs 7820hk in a laptop.
Either will be pasted with liquid metal. I keep hearing the 7820 runs hot. Is it worth it for $125 more with a gtx 1070 as the gpu?
Matthew Williams
Forgot to add, main purpose is gaming. Mostly battlefield games and triple a titles
Brayden Morgan
cool story bro.
Jacob Perry
>battlefield games and triple a titles kys
Adrian Rodriguez
Help:
So I have a X99 motherboard and a 5960X CPU. I turned it off after months of non-stop work to install a new SSD. When booting it up, I get q code 14, so it won't even post. Re-sitting the CPU makes it get stuck on q code 13 instead, but removing the cmos battery and putting it back in brings it back to getting stuck on q code 14.
I've tried absolutely everything to get this shit to work, it randomly booted once in one of the attempts, but I think that was totally random.
I've tried:
- Removing absolutely everything but the CPU and its cooler, still q code 14 - Removing all RAM (still q code 14) - Building motherboard, CPU and cooler outside the case - Blaming the jews - Intense googlin' - Cleaning the CPU pins with 99% isopropyl alcohol
Nothing changes this goddamn error but removing the goddamn CPU (which then you get q code 00).
Any ideas on what else I could try?
Charles Cook
Also, cooler is a H115i
Henry Myers
what happened the last time it worked when it stopped working? you probably have a hardware failure of some kind, probably memory. reseat your ram sticks bro, try singles, try different slots.
Julian Williams
Already tried messing with the sticks (putting only one in A1, etc.), from the q code it seems to happen before any memory initialization takes place.
I forgot to mention, the "CPU_LED" turns on, so most likely if it's a hardware error it's either in the CPU or motherboard.
I bought another motherboard in hopes that's what's broken, but it only arrives on Monday.
Easton Anderson
so i should get the 1600 570 combo rather then the 1500 580 combo?
Thomas Nguyen
>WAAH IM SOOO RICH MY LIFE IS SOOOOO HARD I HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY LET ME KILL MYSELF the more entitled rich shits commit suicide the better
Jackson Allen
>apps on a pc nigga end yourself
Ian Harris
if you absolutelly cant afford 1600 + 580 than i dunno choice is yours
but first try to save up on other components chances are you picked overprice case or ssd
hell you can even skip ssd entairly for the time being and add it month or two down the line you wont do that with cpu or gpu upgrade
Jason Lewis
>gaming >laptop
Noah Clark
i already have a case and a hard drive. im just trying to upgrade my build since my gpu fan is starting to break so ill probably end up buying just the gpu at first and the upgrading the rest once i get a couple more paychecks. i was really just wondering which was more important that i upgrade
Carter Miller
Samsung 960 EVO M.2 250GB >$188 WD M.2 Green 240GB >$119 WD M.2 Blue 250GB >$139
which one? does it even matter at all? (prices in kangaroo dollars)
Charles Long
>i was really just wondering which was more important that i upgrade both are important saving on cpu gives instant byst but take its revange in futrure saving on gpu instantly drops your frame rates and or quality setings
>so ill probably end up buying just the gpu at first and the upgrading the rest once i get a couple more paychecks so its not an issue get r5 1600
If you can keep your gpu do cpu/mboard/ram upgrade first since couple months from now gpu market may or may not be entairly different may be your choice wont be 580 but small vega or gtx 2060 who knows
as for cpus we know that nothing new will come out in at last a year
but if you cant keep your gpu than upgrade it now to 580 8gb and buy cpu later
Ryder Gutierrez
>SDD unless you are a rich fag there is no reason to get one of these - unless you prefer having an 1/8th of the capacity and 4x the price.
Jose Butler
Read the OP of the real thread
Aaron Reyes
>rich fag come on its 2000 and 17 ssd is a must for system drive i recommended skipping it just 2 posts up but i did recomended skipping it for time being if someone is on budget because its easy to add later there for not worth to cut on cpu/gpu just to fit it in initial build. But SSD is real quality of life improver and briliat upgrade to any pc that has sata III port.
John Miller
>PSU die often, they are vulnerable and even the best ones die every year or two. What the fuck happened to Sup Forums? I go away for a couple of months and this is the quality of posts nowadays?
Carson Cruz
M gonna buy a fx 3820.
Juan Diaz
I already have an SSD for my OS I'm going to replace a 1tb HDD which is 10 years old now with an 256gb SSD and a 3tb HDD It'll host my programs and games with unused games sitting on the 3tb one So I'm not wondering whether or not to get one, I'm wondering if any of the three listed has any relevant advantages over the other, as it after looking into it seems to me as if they are all the same