Seeing as all CPUs 2008+ are compromised. What's the beat tinfoil hat build possible?

Seeing as all CPUs 2008+ are compromised. What's the beat tinfoil hat build possible?

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Best* also I'm talking performance wise.

Look, you have a computer. And the internet. And you're alive. You're not going to escape anything, this is the world we live in.

Welcome to 1984.

RiscV with sel4. There is no secure network stack yet though

>This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs.

unless you are sitting on a vPro cpu its fine at the moment

Rad-hardened 286 in a faraday cage.

the best answer, but people will deny it or start droning on about how secure they are. privacy is a myth

There's also no RISC-V hardware yet. Give it time though, it'll probably be good eventually.

Maybe ASUS KGPE-D16.
libreboot.org/docs/hardware/

wat

The IME is on every intel CPU since ~2009.

I'll never understand paranoid privacy guys.

I understand that privacy and freedom should be a basic right of all people, and no governing body or corporation should hold any right to store or mine data on its consumers or residents, but that simply isn't the world we live in. We live in a world where the word "privacy" no longer has a definition. People are complacent and don't care that their computers are backdoored. They don't care if the NSA takes pictures of them with their laptop's webcam. They don't care Google has their entire life in a file. It doesn't directly affect them. Mass amounts of people will never protest this, nothing will ever be done, it will ONLY get WORSE FROM HERE.

If you don't like it, kill yourself. That's truly the only escape. Or move to a remote island somewhere, but hey, they have satellites too.

A Loongson mITX build

just because ME is on every intel CPU doesn't mean that ME is what is exploitable.

>The issue has been observed in Intel manageability firmware versions 6.x, 7.x, 8.x 9.x, 10.x, 11.0, 11.5, and 11.6 for Intel® Active Management Technology, Intel® Small Business Technology, and Intel® Standard Manageability. Versions before 6 or after 11.6 are not impacted.

Via is the only non botnet CPU maker.

IBM's got OpenPOWER

Buy a raspberry pi or something.

a sledgehammer usually fixes the problem

VIA

There's a RISC-V microcontroller pushing 400 VAX MIPS

it really pisses me off you couldn't even proofread your post dumb fuck

>beat tinfoil hat build

fucking retard

You got it wrong. The problem.isnt that ME is exploitable. ME IS the exploit

ur sentences dun start wif capitalz n ur sentences dun end wif fool stops

Is that some sort of self-consoling thought? Having a feature built into the main component of a computer that cannot be turned off/disabled, or rendered inoperable completely (which would definitely be preferably if Intel won't stop putting it on CPUs) which allows this level of access to computer is a major security risk; exponentially so since they won't allow a security audit of ME. Whether it's currently exploitable or not is irrelevant, all software has an exploit, and it will be found eventually.

RiscV is coming dev.sifive.com/dev-kits/

Userspace for sel4 though? Not going to happen. Nobody cares about proofs unfortunately, "i guess it's secure, i hope?" is good enough for most of the security community. Sad

More to it than just "privacy", lots of people have a huge chunk of their lives online, the more widespread and "available" data that exists in different systems and servers, the less secure those people's lives will be.

Feeling safe is one of the main "needs" of us, just below water food and shelter.

Never say never user.

1st, get 5 raspberry pis.
2nd run Linux so it never writes to the Sd card permanently
Destroy all networking equipment, and I mean EVERYTHING, if you have to desolder ICs from the logic board, do it and melt them.
Then build a 5 inch thick lead case that you've engineered to reflect all signals like a radar proof fighter
No forms of input or output either, nothing no keyboard no SSH, nothing.
Then put in a corner and never touch it or turn it on, Your device is now perfectly secure. KYS

Better off to just kill yourself.

I haven't bothered to check but I would assume pretty much every cpu (98%) would be running those affected versions anyway.

Semen demn

>tfw your favourite PC is Penryn based

>Feeling safe is one of the main "needs" of us, just below water food and shelter.
This is true. However, it's extremely improbable everyone will drop their phones and smash their PCs until all governments and corporation pinky swear to not continue doing this shit. You said it yourself, people keep moving more and more of their lives online--and their data, all of it cannot always be secure, data leaks happen all the time. At the same time, trying to tell someone the truth will only have you met with "you're being paranoid", or "I don't care". It's pretty much a futile battle.

Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, etc, all of these corporations release hardware and/or software which makes life "easier" and "more convenient". In a time where it's easier to use backdoored software and hardware that allows a person to not learn anything about technology, the easier it is to continue data mining the consumers. Companies aren't going to stop, they don't have a reason to. Governments won't stop them, they want the data too.

I'm telling you man, every waking moment, I nearer the precipice.

>tfw using a Penryn processor right now

Stallman was right again, goym

>1984

Spot the 15 year old.

>Welcome to 1984.
Wrong.

Brave New World is much more applicable.

People don't care because nothing happens. What are the real world consequences of data leaks? Credit card fraud, boo hoo. Step away from the screen user.

>that image

The weirdo can learn all of that without the access to the data.

I'm not a huge reader, forgive me, that's just the first thing that came to mind.

But that was also my point, they don't have to care about anything, because it doesn't affect their lives, hence the whole "convenience" shit, it outweighs any negatives.

No it's not, retard.

PowerPC MacBook running Linux

*PowerBook G4 running OpenBSD

Turn of Virtualization and you should be fine :^)

My i7 920 will never die

This whole personal battle against privacy is kind of misdirected in my opinion. What we should be focusing our efforts on is not just small measures like using free open source software, but on trying to unite and change policy. Change the government, change the companies. The only way to truly secure ourselves is to get at the root of the issue, which is the system that governs our society. While fighting the FOSS battle is nice, it is not something the vast majority of people will care about or be affected much by, and thus it will not really matter in the end. If we say that what matters is the general public having compromised privacy, then we need to care about protecting the general public and not just ourselves.

No, fuck off and comeback when you're over 18

With that said, I don't really know what I could propose we actually do. How does a group of people make a difference on the government and on companies? What can individuals do? That's an answer I'm still looking for.

GET
INVOLVED
WITH
LOCAL
POLITICS

But how? And how does that translate into making huge changes in privacy related policies?

>Spot the 15 year old

Spot the neckbeard who prides himself on his limited literary knowledge.

>beat tinfoil hat build
I'm 12 and what is this?

OrangePi is a cheap fully open hardware option.

>that board design
it doesn't look any better than the raspberry pi

stop confusing humans, satan

>Seeing as all CPUs 2008+ are compromised

Incorrect. Piledriver chips are uncompromised, so an 8320E is the right choice.

Atari TT running NetBSD

>he doesn't know that vPro is in all Intel chips after 2008 because it's cheaper to put it in than to make another fab process which leaves it out.

I fucked up. Gets were a mistake.

But user, I am over 18. I didn't even have to ask my parent's permission to view this site!

Stop being such a faggot. Good god.

It's not nice to lie, even is it's online.

What about AMD?

>sel4
Can you explain to me how they automatically formally verify their C code? How do they auto verify the C code?

As it's bare roots:
People act differently, more conformant, when they feel they're being observed or feel a chance they may be.

We're going to do something to the mass human psyche that cannot be undone because whoever sits at the top gets to steer the direction of norms and thought.

just how 10/10 is my security via obscurity?

asus eee 701, celeron m

>not browsing the web on an 80286

Move off bash, use fish it is not posix compliant. Also it is just better.

What's the key for?

github.com/corna/me_cleaner

You need to go back

Why? Because I don't know what something on a machine I've never used is for? Yeah, I'm sure you've totally used every piece of technology in existence.

They used to be pretty standard.
They are for locking your computer. Sometimes it was just a physical lock so you couldn't open the case. Other times it would also lock other stuff like keyboard input.

I knew they used to be used for locking the cases, didn't look like that was it since it was unlocked and right in front. In the future just explain it instead of shitting on someone because they're not as well versed in ancient IBM PCs as you are.

X60 with libreboot and trisquel

Not using a computer at all

>tape over numlock
shit is numlock a botnet? Should I tape mine too?

An N64

>2008

PFFFFFFT BAHAHAHAH

Try 2001

Little something called the Patriot Act

I assume it's because the light triggers his autism and he wants to not have to look at it.

Well it looks like it's a good time to buy MSX2 computer that I always wanted anyways.

Possibly a mix of both universes

...

>this
DESU you can pretty comfortably compute and find ways to shitpost from a 486 or an amiga with a NIC...

>2001
Literally there's no time to put in a back door through those era chips

If you said 2k3 then maybe but...

The problem's intractable. How do you keep people from keeping or sharing information about others?

Maybe read their papers? In avionics we use subset of C that can be easily verified and annotations for proof assistants. From free tools i only know of framaC.

Piledriver is still botnet free and performs well

They write C code according to haskell specification in a subset of C99 (quite a bit of it actually, look at the sel4 source). They then use AutoCorres which can parse and transform the C code to higher-level monadic abstraction which can be used by Isabelle/HOL. AutoCorres is itself formally proven to convert the C subset correctly into the higher-level form. The project, which sel4 is part of, is really great resource to learn about practical formal verification of software. They produced many papers on the subject and the infrastructure they built to verify sel4 is impressive

Q6600 builds are sold for less than 100$

Core 2 Quad.

>implying every single OS and even other hardware isn't
If only you knew how bad things really are

>tfw i Run the same system as RMS

Apologize

this

>haha, dumb goy. everything is fine, you are just stupid, trust us, we are god's chosen people

hardenedlinux.github.io/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html

no, not yet

How can we do that when even this board is full of anti-privacy retards.

The stupid solution is using a processor that lacks vPro in a gaming motherboard that doesn't support vPro either. My i7 4770k in a ROG VI Hero is basically lobotomized from using the tech. The tinfoil hats are concerned that the feds could use vPro against users by hijacking a system. Do note this is not a "guarantee" statement. If you are so paranoid about being remotely hacked then the best practice is to be connected to the internet as little as possible i.e. unplug your modem when not in use.

Most of those people are paid to influence public opinion. In our case, they are paid to influence our opinion as this site is well-known for its privacy practices (free software).

If you need to stick to x86, there's still VIA. My girlfriend is Taiwanese and I bought a VIA board when visiting her parents last year. It's about the same size as a raspberry pi, but x86_64 and performs better than your average Intel Atom.

I didn't try to run Windows on it but it should work without issues. Arch runs just fine

Most atoms are x86_64.

>define compromised
Is it spying on me, sending bits of data to gov or intel?
Or is it the embedded "kill switch" that while rumored, there has not been a single incident

He was saying it's an rPi sized board that's not ARM, not that Atoms aren't x86_64

see

Are ARM chips really compromised ?

nice

ibm model ms always have the numlock light on when the comp is powered down even if you toggle it off