For the non-minimalists

For the non-minimalists,

what is your reason for using GNOME or Unity over KDE5? Have you tried sitting down and configure it to your liking before rejecting it?

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I just like how it is.

I tried KDE 5 a couple of times with a different approach. I like its built in features such as kde connect and how you can customize it but I still finds myself going back to GNOME. I don't know, I seems to prefer how GNOME behave and works. Still, Plasma would be my choice if I had to ditch my crurent DE away.

>Looks like trash
>No unique features
>Doesnt support audio balance which even the supposedly dumbed down GNOME does

Kde is cluttery and buggy.

I like its features and speed. I just think its needlessly messy and glitchy.

I don't want to have to configure it to my liking. I want something that will work out-of-the-box.

I don't want to have to configure every aspect of a DE that is supposed to work out of the box. I suffered through both KDE and Gnome for years and now I just use a Mac. Fuck it. Memes aside, I get my Unix-like system without the bullshit. Yeah, $0.02 has been deposited into my account.

Just because something is highly configurable doesn't mean it can't work out of the box.

>Just because something is highly configurable doesn't mean it can't work out of the box.
Apparently it does when it comes to Linux. I'm not here to troll or shit on your favorite toy, but I've been a Linux nerd for years. Ets just not werf it.

So, what is it about KDE5 that makes it unusable for you out of the box?

Personally, I hate the clash between GTK and QT apps. That alone is enough. But there are plenty of little bugs and quirks and design flaws I just don't like very much. It might be better than gnome on some level but it's still the bad little brother that doesn't really live up.

>configure it to your liking before rejecting it?

No thanks, pic related. My autismo is not so strong to micromanage hundreds of slide bars with decimal increments between absolutely nonsensical ends for days until it "feels right". Protip:
>it never does

but I use KDE5

Good thing that KDE is the DE that works the best out of the box then

KDE is and always has been a buggy mess. GNOME has retarded design but at least it fucking works. That said, if you're not using Xfce you're doing it wrong.

>KDE
>works [...] out of the box
No, see

1. Slower
2. BUggier (It automatically opens some apps like Dolphin or Qbittorrent at startup)
3. Kickoff menu has different menu entries with the same name

>Personally, I hate the clash between GTK and QT apps. That alone is enough. But there are plenty of little bugs and quirks and design flaws I just don't like very much. It might be better than gnome on some level but it's still the bad little brother that doesn't really live up.
Yeah no, since the early kde4 days the kde devs always provided their qt themes with gtk versions. The only clash you have now is that qt5 apps don't use your gtk2 theme anymore because it got deprecated. Have fun using functional programs that don't integrate in your gnomeew desktop. I at least have every program look the same in plasma.

Okay? What does that post have to do with what I said? KDE works the best out of the box because every other DE requires more ricing than it does to be usable. All Linux DE's suck ass in one way or the other, you just have to pick the least shitty one, which is KDE if you have a PC built in this decade and XFCE if you don't.

you post a bunch of bullshit I just don't care about anymore. Like it or not, using two different systems with allegedly the "same" theme results in fragmentation and inconsistencies by its very nature. I don't give a shit what nonsense you can autistically type out to defend your preferences. Enjoy your inferior system.

>what is your reason for using GNOME or Unity over KDE5

1. more stability
2. faster
3. less buggy
4. less gay

>It automatically opens some apps like Dolphin or Qbittorrent at startup

Wow, the level of ignorance out there is just astounding.

I use MATE. It's far superior to GNOME3 and KDE

>and XFCE if you don't.
LXDE is better when it comes to that.

I never understood people who use LXDE, just use openbox then

>just use openbox then
That's the great thing about LXDE though.
Say, for example, you have raw openbox.
Okay, what am I going to install as panel? Uhm, tint2 is pretty popular, but fuck both python and gtk3. I'll just go with lxde-panel.
Easy power management (lid actions, battery stuff, lock screen, etc)? If I don't feel like figuring out how to set all this shit up manually, my only choices are daemons from other DEs. xfce4-power-manager is good, but requires libxfcewhatever, and so do others. I'll just use LXDE's.
Uhm, I feel like I'll get bored of browsing my files through the terminal, let's check out file managers. Nautilus is shit, Dolphin, nemo and whatever mate's is called are great, but they depend too much on their respective desktops. Both pcmanfm and thunar are pretty equal in terms of features. pcmanfm is lighter, let's go with that.

And so on and so forth.
LXDE (and now LXQt) are simple applications that help you get all the basics your desktop needs. A raw Window Manager lacks a lot, and trying to configure everything manually, while avoiding DEs can get quite tedious. LXDE gives you all the power of a lightweight Window Manager with all you need from a DE. It's a match made in heaven for the avid tinkerer.

>Kde is cluttery and buggy.

↑ This.

KDE Plasma works like it's a lego castle built from thousands of different colours and shapes which don't fit together all that perfectly. It just doesn't feel good. KWin is also fucking disgusting and all the default effects make me want to excavate my eyes out of my head. What does it say about the Plasma when KDE 1, 2 and 3 look and feel better than what came after them?

Gnome has more unified look and feel to it. Applications in Gnome generally tend to behave similarly with each other. Most GUI software out there is written using GTK+ which ensures that in Gnome things visually look usually good. In another words, Gnome leaves more "professional" impression in many ways.

KDE fucking sucks, so many bugs and so little quality control.

Meanwhile GNOME offers a slick smooth and even wayland experience. I'm not even going to try KDE Plasma/5 ever again since doing so is just a waste of bandwidth.

Not just a stable Wayland experience. If you want you can already have an experimental desktop acceleration based on Vulkan instead of OpenGL and H-O-L-Y-S-H-I-T it is a smooth ride. Plasma's OpenGL acceleration just cannot compare.

youtube.com/watch?v=2FHmyrV1CXM

I just have one question:
Is it possible to get transparent window borders in gnome?

Short answer: Yes. For example the popular Arc theme uses partial client-side transparencies in a manner you probably want the transparent window decorations to be shown.

github.com/horst3180/arc-theme

Long answer: Yes and no. There is no simple switch like in Plasma which you can just flip and every window decoration becomes translucent. If you see a theme which doesn't look the way you want, you might have to get your hands down and dirty with CSS code.

In Gnome 3 everything and I mean everything is styled using regular CSS and can be adjusted whatever way you want... as long as you work within certain clearly documented rules.

This. GNOME3 was a mistake

Perhaps. But it's still a smaller mistake than the Unity and Ubuntu Convergence. kek

But I am using KDE.

I use Spectacle and Corebird in i3 with no problem, what unstable OS are you using?

(I'm not talking about macOS)

Gnome, with the right tweaks, is pretty comfy and just flows well. Can't complain.

usually crashes while getting configured (earliest one was switching theme to dark right after install) so i just change to gnome or xfce. Still i checked KDE on fedora and ubuntu and both were really buggy.

>vertical tabs

Gnome, Unity and even KDE are all bloated as fuck

I use xfce with dolphin as file manager

Personal I not a minimalist but prefer mate but agree KDE5 and QT are superior to GTK3 and GNOME (but the fallback make this fine)

I wish it were that simple user

it's not a matter of minimalism, it's on the verge of autism

I want to just use my fucking computer not sit and adjust it to make it usable. Gnome is fine because it works.

I want to try Gnome but I don't want to use Systemd.

>being this retarded

i like gnome. been using cinnamon before. gnome may not be as transparent and easily modifyable, as cinnamon but i got it where im reasonable happy with its usability within a day or so too. interestingly enough it runs quite a bit better than cinnamon too.

>GTK4

Is it going to break things again?

I tried getting into KDE back when it was KDE 3 and I didn't really care much for it. Honestly, Gnome just works. My experience with KDE has always been a buggy clusterfuck prone to crashing.

The UI is cluttered and inconsistent. The devs are too proud to admit this.

gnome is minimalist

>Personally, I hate the clash between GTK and QT apps. That alone is enough
What are you talking about? On my machine, it came with breeze-gtk which causes gtk applications to blend in just fine. This is an old meme created by retards who don't understand that qt and gtk use different themes. there have been matching themes to choose from for many years.

KDE plasma is very unpolished, chaotic and a little buggy. Just the more important things to be able to use in a "professional" product.

>ITT

I use KDE for it's customisation and 4K support
But its definitely lacking polish

Your screenshot shows the ugliest color scheme I've seen in my entire life. Wtf is wrong with you user?

Im using Kde5 now and its still clunky and laggy even on double 4 core xeon and r9 285, if only XFCE fixed that fucking hdmi-off bug , but it will take literally ages.

Breeze dark is the best thing I ever seen, especially it blends so good at night.

You probably like normie white themes.

Not only the color scheme is ugly, but icons, proportions and all this stuff. Wtf is this shit?

not theme's fault
OP made it to look like shit, you can customize everything to look smaller,elegant and proportional

literally who the fuck keeps those folders so big in fm, two columns of huge folders, kys OP

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it won't break gtk3 software, no

I just wish they would
>add fucking thumbnails to the filepicker
>restore typeahead in the filepicker
>restore typeahead in the file manager
everything else you can fix with extensions

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True, dolphin has a lot more features and is a lot more customizable.

Do filepicker thumbnails work yet?

Can't speak for OP, but some of us have shit eyes and we need bigger icons and text. Deal with it. Everything bright white is """"professional"""" these days, but it gives me a headache.

This. My eyes have never been great, and now my 30th birthday is around the corner I've noticed I need bigger fonts and icons than before. I feel kinda embarrassed but then I remember nobody else sees my desktop, so fuck it.

recently installed arch and tried out kde first. It was so buggy and I had to keep going back into the terminal
>killall plasmashell
>plasmashell > /dev/null 2>&1 & disown

so I threw gnome on it. So far, gnome's had 0 crashes. I can say that it just works for now.

That's my experience with KDE, in a nutshell. I'm enjoying the last year or so of Unity's existence myself, then it's balls deep back into regular glorious GNOME.

serious question, where the hell are all the settings in gnome.
every time I install gnome on my laptop the power options tab is basically barren, whereas on kde theres more options than id ever use.

>300+mb wasted on graphical bloat and services you don't need

Thanks, but no thanks.

Try installing gnome-tweak-tool

yea, like mentioned, just get the gnome tweak tool, if you're using arch, it should be in the aur

KDE has total garbage defaults.

No, I'm not going to sit for a single hour trying to make it functional for me when there's alternatives available. Fuck you.

Unity is quick and works (out of the box) with Ubuntu,

And I'm not anal about aesthetics.

Also
>still using shitblows taskbar
>not glorious icons

Yeah, I'm good.

Alright, fresh Antergos install with gnome, theres no option in settings or tweak tool for no action on lid close while on ac and hibernate on lid close while on battery.
In KDE these are 2 sections with their own options, how is this accomplished on gnome.

tweak > power > options are right there m8

just kidding, sage me boys

It comes with an icon taskbar by default though.

what does bunsen labs use?
that shit looks perfect out of the box

>taskbar icons are hidden at the bottom left corner, instead on the top bar
>full screen windows don't integrate into the top bar, leading to lots of lost vertical screen waste

I'll never understand GNOME's design choices.

>Have you tried sitting down and configure it to your liking before rejecting it?- 81 posts and 9 image replies shown.
yes and that's exactly why I rejected it

Why are the folder icons so large? I can understand using a bigger font size, but are people really so imprecise with a mouse that they need such enormous clickable fields?

Just gonna leave this here.

I moved on to GNOME from Openbox and the reason was because it is the one that everyone tries to support. I only set up gnome-shell though, I don't really like the whole bundle. gnome-shell with extensions look nice and I can make it work the way I like with a few extensions.

More importantly, once everything moves on to Wayland I won't have to look for a new setup, it'll be a change in my startup script.

What is this image trying to convey?

>kio & dolphin shit itself when my phone is connected
>the retardation about runing dolphin as root
>occasional screen tears with free drivers
dropped.

KDE has a lot more options?

I have no problem with kde personally, I think its good but I just can't handle the instability. I know that Gnome is more limited.

What instability, the only problem I ever have with KDE is sometime dolphin loses my phone or disconnects from a samba share.

Damn, just tried KDE on a VM and it looks really neat. I was about to install xubuntu but now I don't know what to do ;_;

Can KDE do this?

Does it have thumbnails in the file picker?

the shell crashes very often, it could be that I just had a shit install, but I don't have enough problems with gnome to be bothered to care desu

get kubuntu ;)

Its amazing that they'll expose a CSS theming engine to you but wont let you pick the function of your power button because they think your too fucking stupid.

So, what are Unityfags gonna do once unity drops dead? Migrate to Gnome and hope to reconfigure it or go to KDE.
I hate how Gnome handles multiple workspaces and generally looks, even with themes.

Hopefully the Unity 8 fork called Yunit will take off. So far the outlook is grim.

I think it would make much more sense to provide an addon-collection for GNOME to keep the look and feel of Unity with continued support by the GNOME team, rather than an additonal useless fucking fork run by contentious asswipes

>Doesnt support audio balance
what?