This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch.
Troll- and shitpostfree edition
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Previous thread:
1st for quartz
mods, this shitter
First for the glory of Lemania chronographs.
Do they make that in quartz?
Are you the guy who posted his collection in last thread? That speedy is my absolute favorite
This is the real /wt/
Cross-posting:
A King Seiko 4502-7000 in the pictured condition for $450 is a pretty good deal, however be aware that the 45xx movement is a bit high-maintenance as it tends to be prone to some excessive wear and it needs more frequent servicing than a 52xx or 5740C would.
I would avoid any 56xx King Seiko as, in my view, the 56xx caliber is inferior to the 52xx King Seikos which are available at similar pricepoints. In addition, if you are considering a 56xx King Seiko you should also be aware that the 56xx used a plastic gear in the day/date quickset mechanism that is prone to shrinking and cracking strictly due to age (and not wear) and as a result most 56xx movements with a day or day/date function will eventually end up with a broken quickset for the day and date. As such, if you really must have a 56xx King Seiko I would recommend going for a time only model.
Finally, the 4402 King Seiko is an 18,000bph low beat model that, while historically important and quite reliable, will not give you the kind of time-keeping performance a 45xx or 52xx King Seiko will be capable of.
Basically, as a vintage Seiko nerd with an interest in high end production movements, I would personally go for the 4502 King Seiko, but I would be quite willing to spend whatever I had to in order to keep it maintained (up to and including possibly having to buy a donor movement one day).
If I was leery of having to spend to keep it running at its best, then I would definitely go for the 5740C Lord Marvel as it will be the cheapest to keep running over the long term. The movement design is much simpler and more reliable than the 45xx, and its inherent accuracy is actually supposed to be very very good, it just doesn't hack.
If you don't mind it not being a 36,000 bph hand-winding movement, then I would definitely look at 52xx King Seiko Specials as they are 28,800 bph automatic models that are reliable, accurate, and which were lavished with extra attention at the factory.
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>real
nope, it isn't.
This.
will report this duplicate thread, thx
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Yeah. It's an amazing movement. One of my biggest frustrations with the craven greedy bastards at the Swatch Group is that they killed the Lemania 5100 even though multiple watchmakers were literally begging them to keep making it.
What are the best vintage sub $500 pieces? Don't care if it is quartz or mechanical. Something horologically significant would be nice.
You are banned soon.
So this is a duplicate of that thread where mechanicalfags couldnt accept the fact that some people enjoy quartz and digital watches, even though quartz and digitals would be more in the spirit of Sup Forums than any mechanical ever?
Wow I hate mechanicalfags now
there are tons of omegas for that price
Stop the samefagging already. Nobody is taking your baiting seriously.
so? There's actual discussion in the first thread, as opposed to threats and baiting here. I daresay you're the ones getting it.
Vintage Seikos still have most of the best deals you can get. You can easily find vintage King Seiko and Grand Seiko quartz models for well under $500.
For mechanical, you can still get 52xx King Seiko Specials for under $500, and 45xx King Seikos along with 5740C Lord Marvels for ~$500.
Hell, last time I checked you can still get Seiko 701x vintage chronographs for less that $500 (a technically superior Daini Seikosha produced design compared to the Suwa Seikosha produced 613x, which has clutch issues). Mind you, vintage chronographs are not for the feint of heart as they can be pricey to keep serviced and maintained.
Daily reminder that mechshit watches are just jewelry that trannies and retards wear because they are too ashamed to wear real jewelry, all in the name of muh haute w-horology.
>There's actual discussion in the first thread
There's literally nothing. Just your pathetic samefagging and troll attempts
Zenith maybe.
Burger pocket watches are also insanely cheap and companies like Waltham, Elgin, Illinois, etc. have high end railroad chronometers you can pick up insanely cheap.
>Something horologically significant would be nice
I actually like the electromechanical watches you can find for quite cheap. they're a sign of the traditional watchmakers trying to survive the introduction of quartz.
same with those quasi-digital jumping hour + minutes and seconds on a disc, as a response to the lcd digitals.
oscillate harder, faggot. But not too hard or you would have to be sent off for 'servicing'.
Now, if you are willing to spend up to $750, that opens up your options a fair bit as you can get many good examples of late 1960s and early 1970s Omega models with the 56x or 75x movements.
They are, quite seriously, still regarded as some of the best series produced automatic movements ever made.
Bulova Accutron
Omega Seamaster
>Muh patina
Why do watch fags convince themselves that a banged up scratched watch is desirable?
I've even had someone claim they'd rather have a damaged watch that "shows character" than a clean one.
This doesn't happen in any other circles. I've never heard a classic car enthusiast say "nice Jaguar E type but what I really wish is if it had more dents in the bodywork".
I haven't really heard anybody wanting patina on their watches. But there are a lot of car/motorcycle dudes who like to keep the original paintjob/interior instead of total restauration.
You've never heard of people into vintage cars who prefer them in original patina'd condition to overly restored show queens? Are you actually being serious right now, or is this bait?
it is a result of the brainwashing by ((them)) and art/antique fags. As if having a story and wear and tear but no significant utility makes something valuable. Totally subjective bullshit.
These morons have deluded themselves into believing that somehow buying a rolex mechshit is an investment and its value would appreciate while ignoring the fact that rolex shits out thousands of them watches every year increasing the supply and killing any possibility of value appreciation in the long run.
What are you wearing today, /wt/? I'm still wearing my DJ as I'm still tracking it's worn accuracy from April 22 to now.
No I have never heard of anyone say "Damn nice Testerossa but where's the rust dude!
Same old
And don't reply to it either, just ignore it for fuck's sake.
BTFO by kek.
Explorer II (Polar),
What is your DJ keeping so far being worn?
My Explorer II is dead on nuts when I wear it every day, and when I let it sit it gains between 1-2 seconds (which I like as it just makes me slightly earlier for things).
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Nigger I just got here. I've gotten shit from /wt/ for buying digitals even before you and your lot came here to post gunky Vostoks and Pobedas.
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quick question about watch repair tools:
do i need a caseback wrench? i see that everyone says you can use a rubber ball to open a caseback, and that's all well and good, but how do you screw it back on then?
isn't it annoying to have to press a button to see the time?
>Patina = rust
What could he have intended to convey with such actions?
The only acceptable aging marks on a watch is lume going orange.
Which reminds me of a question.
Why aren't watches in general lumed with trintium anymore is it banned?
You can get some watches from china with orange lume, is this tritium?
Is that the stock jubilee? You must be the only SKX owner I've ever seen leave it on that bracelet.
Patina: a green or brown film on the surface of bronze or similar metals, produced by oxidation over a long period.
It is yeah, but I still think the watch is super cool.
Oscillates around a cumulative +0 dead. It runs between +0 and +3 in every position except crown down.
Nice watch. How's it treating you?
Nope, the original was quite horrible. Mine is the Strapcode Super Jubilee
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That is not how the term is typically used with respect to vintage watches and cars. It is used to mean signs of use and aging, not literal patina in the sense of oxidization.
Ah, that makes sense then. How is it? I've got a super oyster for my SKX but I barely ever wear it these days.
You can still get the tubes. I think manufacturers moved away from the tritium paint because it changes chemically as the tritium decays to helium-3. Strontium aluminate lume is just easier to deal with from a materials standpoint I would imagine.
Pretty good. Picked it up on f29 for only $145 including a brand new spare bracelet. Only thing that's rough is it's almost impossible to read in direct sunlight without shading it.
I don't think it's banned but it's probably a bitch to import anymore because catladies that run the bureaucracies of the world love red tape and it's just easier to use ugly Luminova instead.
Real thread is here
Don't create new ones just because you're butthurt.
That's doing very good. What's the year of it?
>I like a chick more if she had a lot of cocks in her.
Retarded mechshits.
I like it, especially for the price. Could be even more rigid but jubilees are always like that.
No it's not. You didn't even get the links right and "QUARTZ IS BETTER FUCKING MECHASHITS" doesn't sound very real to me.
To this guy:
Thanks
OP content is irrelevant to the point, it's still the first created watch thread. Stop creating duplicates.
Also stop being butthurt.
>OP content
The entire thread is full of trolling. Stop posting about it.
And you think this one won't be? This is still the same board. The same people are still here.
What would you consider Rolex quality at a third of Rolex price? Or do you just consider all watches of that price category overpriced?
2/3rd of the assumed 'rolex' value is the brand name. A one-time tool watch maker shitting out cheap, somewhat-well-finished watches with antiquated tech by the thousands doesn't make it a valuable watch. So, your 'rolex quality' is basically the brand value that consumers believe it holds.
On the other hand Patek and Lange more so actually innovate and use precious metals that have more inherent value and exclusivity to just the price. somewhat.
tldr; rolex is the pleb's brand. someone with more money than brains.
*justify the price
but who makes a watch of the same quality rolex does for a third of the price?
WAY/wt/? What should I wear myself?
I wear vintage watches on bright natos how much do you hate me?
i think it's neat, post pics
What exactly is rolex quality? Even shitko has better internal and case finishing on mid level watches and zaratsu polishing on the top end and even they don't put a wall of text on the watch face. Not saying that shitko automatics are better of anythings. All mechshits are inferior by definition.
>No nato
Downvoted
all mechshits? then you are blind to the glory of photons and should just garotte yourself with the hair spring in your mechshit.
Seiko. Every time you ask, it's going to be the Seiko.
look at this pleb here wearing that corroded piece of shit with pride. this is how you spot a poorfag-richie-rich-wannabe.
Checked. quartz be praised.
It's a 2006 116223, serviced a few months ago by my local watchmaker. It took three post service adjustments of the rate to dial it in. Got my watchmaker to do the tweaks because I don't feel like buying a microstella wrench or learning g how to use one (I regulate smooth balances myself using a timegrapher and a small screwdriver for the micro-adjuster).
Yeah, that always was the problem with LED watches, even in period.
>mfw that 30-year-old Rolex has the very same cal. 3135 as the new subs
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5 1/2 wrist here, is it too big?
This.
Is he btw the same fag using the words "cage" and "cagers" to describe cars and car owners?
Phuck me dead that's a tough one. Go with the GS
Looks acceptable.
Are you sure? Rolex is known to continually upgrade their movements, sometimes pretty significantly, without changing the name of the calibre.
Post a top down shot. Looks fine form that angle, though.
>I was talking to the quarz autist
Please get a trip.
is that on your wrist? no way that's 5"1/2.
Nah, looks fine
You're welcome.
I forgot two options that aren't technically perpetual calendars but mimic the function via radio sync: the Casio Lineage liw-t100td (pic related) and the Casio Oceanus.
implying...
;^)
lol, looks like someone got inspired.
Wear the DJ so we can be two-tone DJ buddies (see ).
Well... the only thing that might have actually changed over the time is the production process: I bet they are churning them out much faster and cheaper than a few decades ago.
>mechshits in denial.
kek.
Wear it in good health, my fellow shitposter...
I've heard that the 3135 has improved a lot over it's production, to the extent that 3135s from after 2000 are supposedly significantly more accurate than those from the 1990s. That may be hearsay though.
Also keep in mind that production movements from the 1970s are capable of excellent performance and cans hand up to current movements in most aspects bar power reserves.
*Can stand up to
Wait a second... Where have I seen that wrist before? Are you that Canadian guy with the A U T O M A T I C Seiko Brightz?