How can we stop TTIP agreement? I dont want us to get cucked by murricans

How can we stop TTIP agreement? I dont want us to get cucked by murricans

Erotaan nyt eka tosta EU:sta

shut up gommie :D TTIP=good

wat is ttip

TTIP is gobbudism

You're already being cucked by the Germans, what's the problem?

Its an conspiracy to replace european foods with americans'

A Free Trade Agreement betwen USA and the EU which is very criticized cause it would lower some European standards, could overprotect companies agaisnt countries and is discussed with great secrecy.

My grandfather told me this several years ago, I quote 'Whatever USA told you to do, you must do exact opposite, because they are evil and love only profit'

So, screw the TTIP I quess.

>some senile old guy old commie said the US is the devil so it must be true

ok

Polite reminder that most agitation against TTIP is borne of ignorance of the subject matter and/or intellectually dishonest agenda pushing.

TTIP is not of satan. TTIP is a complex trade deal (they are all complex, just read NAFTA if you can bear it) and what's more, it's still not done being negotiated.

And while it's right to be wary of its outcome and to monitor its progress and of course put pressure on bodies involved to make sure interests of the citizen and consumer are observed, also keep in mind that there are people who want you to follow gut feeling and exploit your fear instead of using reason.

Well US bombed them so such sentiment is perfectly understandable.

I'd rather trust senile old commie, than some random dude on american childporn imageboard.

YES OP is Right here

TTIP and CETA (which is even worse) are total bullshit and bad for all customers in the end.

see the damn NAFTA, jobs lost in USA and Mex have now low-paid jpbs. good for NOONE

A program meant to hurt China by moving American jobs to Southeast Asia and American products to Europe and Latin America

>t. Porky

Look at NAFTA. We're usually the ones getting butt fucked by these things. It's interesting a Democrat in the WH is always the one pushing these things.

sod op an be come gommunist :D
star spain'd banner is evil

>it would lower some European standards,
Directly, the deal should not touch any part of european law. However depending on what areas of trade are affected, specifically food, American standards could be recognized as "good enough" for us (and vice versa), which would put competitive pressure on our superior food. Alternatively the deal could also be about changing regulations on both sides, but our politicians have ruled that out (being the honest upright guys they are). On the other hand, due to amount of agricultural subsidies on both sides I wouldn't be surprised if food dropped out of the treaty altogether...
>could overprotect companies agaisnt countries
It is a contract that binds both parties to certain terms, and it is going to contain mechanism to enforce these terms. Some people say this should be left to national courts, Germans I think want an independent permanent court for it (think something like ECJ, but smaller) but default is ad hoc tribunals nominated on case by case basis. No matter what, the deal should contain provisions for allowing countries to preserve their security and stability.
Even so, yes, it is almost certainly going to introduce mechanisms for countries and companies to enforce rules of the treaty.
>and is discussed with great secrecy.
This is pure garbage. Secrecy is standard during negotiation of trade deals.

Another points of contention not mentioned are:
Trade in services. Some see the deal as a way to resurrect ACTA.

Effects on non-competitive economies. It's a free trade deal after all, there are going to be winners and losers.

Pretty much this

It's also shit. Especially the investor rights, companies being represented as people, and labor law changes.

Essentially cucking the European worker via American companies.

Democrats are Republicans who actually follow public opinion polls.

Why would you get in the way of free trade?

You have obviously taken a Trade course.

There's been a number of recent studies that have shown that trade deals far overpromise and underdeliver.
And China joining the WTO was actually a net negative for America.

I don't have much hope that TTIP will be much better. It has so many plus provisions that it'll be impossible for the average citizen and small business to understand how to handle it.

TPP was 80,000 pages. No one even read it in our congress or senate.

I hope it gets delayed till 2018-2019 at least. The more time to negotiate it, the better for all.

>""""""""""""""""""""""""Free"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Trade

More like forming a clique of developed nations to abuse their power and market share on developing nations. It's not free trade or pro-free trade. It's a political deal with some sweeteners for MNC's.

More power to corporations - The Contract.

but american food is poison

> t. Lord William Napier

Leave the EU

fuking gommies
usa best ally

That's why you must buy diseased Romanian horsemeat instead.

It chucks both the U.S. and EU to benefit multinational corporations. Biggest proponents are Nestle and Microsoft

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Praise Baal Hamon

I would rather get cucked by americans than by germans desu.

Both Trump (who was opposed to it) and Hillary (who is opposed to it in order to not lose Bernie supporters) both oppose it.

Which is why obongo is trying to push it before the end of his presidency