Trump

How is Donald Trump a serious presidential candidate when all he does is yell very loud opinions that dont make sense at all. It makes me question the intellect of Americans once again. I get that people are unhappy with the political establishment but seriously guys trump? really?? Why does such a big part of your country consists of idiots? Also why is your system so undemocratic. Why dont you change your political system its fucking retarded. Why does nobody care lel?

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What is Geert Wilders like?

He promised to torture terrorists and kill their families

Trump represents the best of the American values

Of course it doesn't make sense. The concept of a secure border is too difficult to understand when you enjoy being buttfucked by Mudslimes.

He backed out of it

Netherlands is a traitor to South Africa and would rather accept Muslims so go fuck yourself.

It's not only in the US, demagogues like him are winning all over the world. Pretty scary if you ask me.

They can make the most stupid and outright wrong statement, their fans do not care. They convince them on an emotional level instead of a factual one, and that's what people want.

>"Women have always been the primary victims of war" -Hillary Clinton
What did she meme by this?

And then promised to do it again claiming that Geneva convention will have to be repealed

He will promise a thing, then he'll deny it and in the end he'll act like he didn't

If he's such a demagogue, why is he receiving so much flak?

From what I've heard from my American friends is that he's a honest to God memer.

>why is your system so undemocratic
Probably because democracy always leads to oligarchy and more centralized state power.

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Oh, and by the way, democracy is just mob rule.

You can't possibly tell where does he really stand because his promises contradict each other

If alternative is Hillary of course Trump must win.

It's kinda hard for us to change the system when it's slowly been rigged to benefit the elite that hold the power to even make the change in the first place.

>mfw hillary is going to win because the media said trump is bad
>have to see all these spergs comment on 9 news everyday here in aus that trump is evil and going to start world war III

And the best thing about it is that inconsistency doesn't hurt him because his supporters don't care about it. They connect with him on an emotional level.

>implying that people use logic to make decisions

It's amazing that this tactic works so well.

>We will do A
>some people cheer
>others fling shit
>Actually we won't do A, we will do B
>people who were flinging shit before now cheer as well
>people who were cheering before say "nah he was just saying this to humour B" or "you just hate Trump"
>everyone is happy and loves Trump (except for establishment cucks obviously)

But this is on a whole new level

Geert Wilders may be a hatefull populist but he isnt nearly as dumb as Trump. Also Wilder has 0 change at becoming prime minister because all the other parties have vowed to never form a coalition with him and its literally impossible to get majority on your own.

You guys really lucked out last week, didn't you?

Yuros don't know american politics, they make statements based off of what their media tells them and quotes taken out of context.

This right here is the #1 reason why trump is going to win, no one wants corrupt as shit Hillary but uneducated fucktards. (sadly that's most of the US voters) Oligarchy needs to end somewhere.
It also helps that Trump is actually saying what everyone's thinking and saying he's going to do something about all the shit past presidents have been ignoring.

Yeah it was a close call in Austria. Luckily the result turned in the end.

Trump is embracing anti-rationality and it puts democracy as a viable system of government into question

Just imagine how is the 2020 election going to look like

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Of course it is. He's a master at manipulating people's emotions. That's why he's going to win.

This was definitely something I could at least appreciate about him, at least early on in the primaries; he wasn't afraid to bring up certain issues that everyone else was trying to avoid. at the very least, he gets people talking about issues and critically thinking about them instead of just writing them off or sweeping them under the rug.

Care to explain how Trump is an idiot?

geneva convention already doesn't apply to terrorists

its the counter-swerve. multiculturalism, politicall correctness, identity politics. These are all extreem things that are entierly unreasonable.

This is the overcorection that risks you swerving off and ending up in the ditch on the opposite side of the road you were about to drive off of.

Im all for it though because its inevitable, and the sooner it happens, the better, because ultimately the longer all this crazy shit kept on for, the more extreme this correction was going to be. Not having it happen now will just lead to something even worse in the future.

I dont know what its like in other countries things like this are happening in, but in america the president doesn't have that much power, our system of government was designed from the ground up under the assumption that pretty much everyone coming after the founders who made it was going to be a moron, so its very VERY hard to make sweeping changes about anything in a short period of time, under the assumption that people would just kind of flounder around in incompetence for all time.

Thats why its the best system of government.

Also i really hope you people arent believing what the media tells you about him? Just a while back the media aired an interview with hillary about him where she listed off things hes said or his positions, which were all complete lies and blatant fabrications.

What does trump do? He just spreads memes: "crooked hillary"

He is the memepresident which is why i want him to win :^)

>It also helps that Trump is actually saying what everyone's thinking
That's the problem. He is saying everything at once.

Did she actually say that or is that just something people slap on pictures of her?

How did both presidental nominees end up being half the country apparently hate?

>and it puts democracy as a viable system of government into question
lmao if you still think this is a democracy and not corporatocracy; so much bullshit is happening here from lobbying and pocket politicians. The best thing about trump is he owes no one favors since he's funding his own campaign.
Yeah, and? He brings it onto the table so that people discuss it instead of actively ignoring it like usual.

I don't think there was a single president that didn't in some way expand their powers. At the very least, not a single one has reduced the powers inherent in the presidency. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the president doesn't have much power.

Even if what you say is true, that hes just saying whatever people want to hear, how is he any different from any of the other politicians in this regard?

The main thing trump has going for him is that the establishment hates him. Ill vote for a liar the establishment hates over a liar the establishment likes any day. Its not even a question.

I don't think Trump would invalidate democracy even if he succeeded in rising to power thanks to lads like To me principle of democracy is (well, should be) about representation and legitimacy of power rather than about finding best people to run the country.

If the people want to be governed by a guy who plays them like that, they should get him.

Are you serious?
Have you no idea of how fucked things are due to the refugee crisis atm?

Easy. Republicans really like Trump but absolutely hate Hillary and Democrats really like Hillary but absolutely hate Trump.

It's a "Karl acts like an autistic sperg" episode

Oh look another dumb American who doesn't understand that you can get your sources from more places then your own media. His opinions change and dont offer any solutions if you cant see that your indeed an idiot.

He has convictions and is only there to get power

Trump is an ultimate trickster that's excellent in marketing himself

If you think it's ok that your elections have become a reality TV, then I don't know

Do you unironically believe that the other guy would "solve" refugee crisis, or any other crisis?

Obama ran in his first term with the promise he would shut down guantanamo bay
When he was elected, he signed an executive order to shut down guantanamo bay
guantanamo bay is still running.

The president cant do anything with out support, the president is more of a signal than anything else. Elect a president and you send a message to all the other politicians from congress down to local city counsels what kind of direction the people want.

Trump, or sanders, being elected will do only one major thing, tell those politicians they cant just nod their head at the public but go along with the status quo and be secure in their positions. Theres not going to be a wall or socialism or whatever the people who dislike either of those candidates think if they get elected, theres just going to be a signal that the establishment is losing its power.

Likewise if clinton wins, it will be the oposite. 95% of everything else that will happen under the next president will be identical., and the 5% thats left will basically be just the different memes and news stories that we get during their term.

He speaks at a 3rd grade level

washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/18/trumps-grammar-in-speeches-just-below-6th-grade-level-study-finds/

>oligarchy needs to end somewhere
>elect a billionaire
Oh shit nigga what are you doing?

Are you saying you still believe in the things you believed in in High School?

>He has convictions and is only there to get power
And Hillary isn't?. Do you know anything about Politics? Are you reading heavily biased anti Trump media or just explaining your feelings of dislike for the man?
What is trump going to do when he gets president that's going to be any different than the last 30~ years; make the white house into a hotel? At best he'll be a good president, at worst he'll be an average president but he won't be Hillary Clinton.

That's how he gives speeches and it seems to be working seeing that it's common for tens of thousands of people to attend his rallies. How many people actively seek out what you have to say?

What I really wonder is how awkward things will be between Hillary and Donald at the Trump-Clinton family get-togethers.

>I said some things...
>Yeah. Me too.
>Still friends?
>... You betcha.

Because people are getting elected on a platform. They promise to do things if they get elected. You can punish them by not re-electing them if they don't deliver.

He doesn't have that, so you can't tell what'll he do.

most republicans hate trump

This is why hes best, hes basically a third party candidate that has ran as a republican to make it a standard two party race instead of him getting screwed over by the traditional third party role of people abandoning you at the last minute because "third party cant win better not throw my vote away"

Ive not heard any non US sources that dont just repeat what the US sources say about trump

They just want their own Babiš.

Babiš is less dishonest than Trump though.

And that makes him an idiot? I didn't know that the grade at which you speak in is a viable IQ test. Amazing how an idiot could turn a million dollars into billions, write one of the most successful business books, and run against a field of very experienced politicians and win. Incredible.

>washington post
>any mainstream media election coverage

Trump might not be the great god emperor but at least he isn't that shady fucking sociopath Hillary Clinton and that should be a good enough reason to vote for him.

You can't fucking tell what is he going to do.

Maybe he'll nuke Raqqa (probably not) or some other insane shit, I don't know.

He has no track record or experience.

A billionaire who has 0 to do with the white house compared to the same group of people who've been fucking around it for well over 3 presidencies?

Oh look another retarded leftist clogwog who knows absolutely nothing about American politics and basis his information off of European completely biased news sources afraid of Hitler trump.
>His opinions change and dont offer any solutions if you cant see that your indeed an idiot.
So literally fucking ANYONE on the planet?
>Hey, what you said about ____ was wrong, here's proof
>oh wow i was wrong thank you my opinion has changed on ____
>YOU FUCKING FAKE

electing a slightly lesser evil to deal with the greater evil. We will then elect something less evil to deal with him, then something even less evil to deal with that.

Eventually we will elect a cat as president.

All Trump has to do now is start handing out free donuts and he'll win whatever happens

So he's adapting his speech so that it appeaks to the layman American citizen. God damn what a dumb retard!

So you'd entrust the country to a known killer? OR entrust the country's economy to a socialist who can't even manage his own finances?

Career politicians have been doing the same shit for decades and it's not helping.

He literally will not have the power to unprovoke nuke/war people without good reason; there is specific channels for this shit you uneducated swine this isn't fucking holywood.

>They promise to do things if they get elected.

Nobody fulfills election promises. It doesn't work that way in the US. People get their first term by winning a popularity contest, and then we elect them again because presidents last for 8 years, its not fair to not let them have their second term :^)

I live in CA, our sentaor, barbara boxer, is finally retiring. I have never met a person who liked her in my entire life, yet shes been senator since the last ice age ended. How? Because shes the senator, so people vote for her every election.

This would be the first time that a con man who've never held any kind of political office will be in control of a nuclear arsenal capable of wiping out life on Earth.

OP, the biggest part of the USA are idiots because majorities consist of idiots everywhere, in the USA and outside the USA. The fact that the majority decides is not an advantage of democracy, but a necessary evil inherent to democracy. The (reactionary, bitter, functionally illiterate) "silent majority" wants to see hipsters suffer, their own welfare be damned. That's why people like GW Bush, Le Pen, Berlusconi, Maduro or Cameron enjoy so many supporters.

Trump is just a rich tycoon who loves money and wants to get richer. He is playing dumb and creating this school jock character because he knows that's what appeals to dumb farmers from North Dakota. He is much smarter than the "hurr durr America stronk, kill all Mexicans and Muslims durr" persona he projects to the media.

>let's appeal to the lowest common denominator
What a good idea when you're running for the single most important office in the world.

>0 to do with the white house
Are you consciously choosing to believe that bullshit?

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong board, /s4s/ is three >>> down.

nuclear war is bad for business, unless you are in the iodine business

>it's a slovacuck post

So basically, the man who wants to improve relationships with Russia instead of preparing for war with Russia is a warmonger?

>Americans want to elect a President who wants to keep illegals out, kill terrorist families (a tactic used by Russia and semi used by Israel hat has been proven to be effective), banuslims from entering the country, dislikes political correctness, anti establishment, promotes nationalism & patriotism, wants to bring jobs back and doesn't want a conflict with Russia
>Yurosissies are triggered
Well gee, who would have thought?

>>nothing to do with the white house

die

This.

Also anyone who thinks he has any intention to change status quo or break muh oligarchy is delusional.

i'm voting for trump just to fuck with my country. i don't care what happens as long as it's entertaining

Die was?

Nice edge *tips katana*

There are institutional politicians who never worked a day in their life outside of their political career.

The speak softly, never have strong stances and flip-flop in order to amass more votes.

People at some point get tired of this and want another type of politician.

Trump is both a billionaire and a showmen.

Thus he is significantly different from the other candidates and that by itself is enough go give him a chance to win.

I consider him the american counterpart to Berlusconny... a bit more up tight maybe.

On top of that some of his stances are a welcomed change compared to the spineless stances of the competitors.

Why do foreigners care so much about American politics?

>Trump is just a rich tycoon who loves money and wants to get richer.
Opposes current laws in process that would make him richer; he's paying for his own campaign instead of using other peoples money which is extremely expensive.
>He is playing dumb and creating this school jock character because he knows that's what appeals to dumb farmers from North Dakota.
True; he feigns ignorance to garner support from the educated masses (something all presidents do by other means by the way)

Oh wow he went to a white house correspondent dinner once the fucking free mason shit.

He'll make your waifu real

wow that really changed my mind on the matter truly i am now enlightened

just kidding you fuck

>i don't care what happens as long as it's entertaining

This is literally how america was founded fellow patriot. We were actually gonna get that representation, but we thought throwing that tea in the harbor would be more fun, so we just went ahead and did it anyway.

And now look at us.

Because you know me so well and know where I get my information off right? Maybe you shouldn't just shout things where you have no knowledge off. Sounds like a smart idea? Also yes everybody changes opinions in his life but if you do it every week to appeal to everyone then it seems like your a big fucking populist. Have you ever even listened to a trump speech it just doesn't make sense at all whatsoever its just like diarrhea coming out someone's mouth for hours

ITT shitskins in Europe Circle Jerk

stop swearing at swedes

be nice to them

one of the most powerful countries in the world while britain is a little shit pebble on the surface of the planet

You don't know what oligarchy means do you.

Besides, even at his worst he is still better than Hillary "Merkel is my role model" Clinton, Bernie Sanders won't be the Democratic nominee and if he's in the pocket of the elite literally nothing changes.

>Because you know me so well and know where I get my information off right?
I can tell your posts are uneducated garbage, yes.
>Maybe you shouldn't just shout things where you have no knowledge off.
But you got the right :^)
>Also yes everybody changes opinions in his life but if you do it every week to appeal to everyone then it seems like your a big fucking populist
Doesn't happen every week, only happens when he says big old controversial shit that gets taken out of context.
>Have you ever even listened to a trump speech it just doesn't make sense at all whatsoever its just like diarrhea coming out someone's mouth for hours
Sick opinions faggot.

Their choices:
1) Hillary Clinton - 80% Evil fueled by Evil

2) Donald Trump - 81% Evil fueled by ignorance

He maybe more evil but is more capable of changing for the better as compared to $hillary.

America has two horrible options. The best option is to be an hero in my opinion. Across for attention, Down for results.

>one of
We are two categories of power away from the next most powerful nation. The US and russia were both superpowers, when the cold war ended the US moved up a notch to hegemon, and russia lost its superpower status. Meaning there is no current superpower, china is trying but honestly i think it will collapse internally.

Britain still got a top 3 navy though. If only they would ditch the 4th reich and get some self respect back they could be a dignified force again. London is the financial capital of the world they dont need to worry about their economy. Sure the EU will try to punish them if they pull out but the germans are one socio-structural revolution behind the rest of the world due to all the distractions the HRE infighting caused which slowed their development, its nothing some cunning anglo bankers cant handle, particularly since the US banks basically btfo of the EU banks recently, they are a wounded opponent, no problem for albion.

actually i will be happy with either of them as president.

This is the first election im actually excited to see who wins, rather than just trying to figure out which will be more tolerable. The memes are going to flow either way.

Before trump started running i was all aboard the hillary train.

Why Hillary over Bernie? I thought that was the favorite of all young people.

Don't tell me you're excited purely because she's a woman.

But Slovaks are alpha, mate

I wouldnt mind him either, as im some kind of socialist, but it looks like hes out of the race now.

At the time hillary was only a rumor and nobody else had even announced. I wanted an evil empress to run the country and make memes. Under her we will assuredly keep drone striking the middle east and offering sacrifices to persephone (whos statue is atop the white house)

it shouldn't surprise you after they got two Bush elected
especially the second

hehe, is the only thing you care about memes?

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