How Much Do You Think The Security Services Have Their Hands On TOR?

Recently it was revealed, that, thankfully, a massive global paedophile ring had been busted, over 900 people had been arrested in many different countries for distributing and manufacturing CP, this was all done over what was described as the "dark web", that phrase can mean a few things, it could for example mean that the illegal operation was done not done through TOR, but rather on websites that are not well known or designed to obfuscate their true purpose, but what it probably means is that it was done through TOR.

The question then is, how did they do it?

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you're an idiot and you haven't read anything about it
look at joseph cox's writing on it.

Can britfags report as to the virtue of publication in pic?

Not a response. I was looking for discussion, not ad hominem and vague references.

He put together a dossier of questionable integrity which was commissioned by an anti-trump group, nearly everyone on the pro-trump side hates him for it and everyone on the pro-hillary side takes it as gospel.

TOR connects through 3 nodes.

Take control of 3 nodes and you can do what you want, there aren't that many nodes.

If you're talking about Playpen, I've got news you won't like. If you're talking about something else, I'd appreciate a source.

I don't browse Sup Forums that much anymore, enlighten me.

No, I read about that. I meant the publication, ('i' ?).

Oh right, it's a Guardian offshoot I think.

But he's right. Read the fucking vice article he's referring to, which took me seconds to find.
"In short, users of this dark web site would post links to child pornography that were hosted onUS-based file sharing service ziifile, along with a password to the file. Investigators then obtained a court order for information on who allegedly connected to those webpages."
"Agents didn't do this with a fancy exploit or a set of hacking techniques, however. Instead, they found a workaround: users of the dark web site posted links to child pornography that was hosted on a file sharing service, so investigators obtained IP addresses from that host."
TOR has nothing to do with how they actually caught anyone.

Tor is a system that very effectively hides two computers from each other.

Think of it like this: Tor is a phone line that you have no idea where the other person is on the other end of the line.
But if you trick the person into telling you who they are and where they're from then TOR IS NOT BROKEN

Okay, I admit I was lazy. Thank you for posting those quotes.

That seems pretty crazy that they would use Tor for the paedo website but not for the file hosting service.

The FBI got no convictions from the Playpen bust because they mishandled it in every possible way. Now all of the data they gained from operating a child porn site for two weeks is inadmissible, and all of the data they gained from the people they arrested is "fruit of a poison tree."

They literally have decrypted hard drives full of terabytes of child porn and they still can't get a conviction for the owners because LEAs can't get it through their heads that they have to at least pay lip service to the Bill of Rights.

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I think standard practice is to download outside of TOR because it slows the network down, and you can still claim that you followed the link from elsewhere (say, Sup Forums) thinking it was something else.

Downloading the file is maybe enough to get a warrant, but not a conviction unless they find actual CP on your computer. Just the encrypted archive isn't enough.

The FBI can now hack under Rule 41 and since they favor investigation over legalization they will end up breaking into a lot of computers because of anything from IP address in a server log to records of downloading a file. If they violate the law or think what they did won't hold up in court then they will not press charges or will press charges then drop them, but they will collect the information regardless of who it impacts.

they also would drop cases if the court demanded the methods and software they used to id them.

they'd rather not reveal their hacking tools and let them go free, fancy that

Probably because they have broken TOR.

They haven't. They took over a child porn site and used it to distribute malware (and child porn) that would phone home with the unobscured IP address. I'm guessing that they didn't want to reveal that it only affects XP users or only IE users or something like that.

They haven't.
They just don't want to reveal that their exploits are all Javascript.
They'd rather have the view that they 'broke tor' mysteriously so people are dissuaded from using it to commit crimes. You see, Tor is secure and THAT'S the secret they're trying to protect.

You don't really understand how tor works
Any client can be a node and clients pick the route randomly
chances that you have control of exactly the 3 nodes that someone is using are pretty small

>thinking it would be difficult for the FBI to put up an extra thousand nodes on the system

My VPN allows for VPN-TOR, which means if I wanted to I could configure my self to be behind 7 poxies.

>thinking the NSA doesn't already have backdoors in literally every node

who actually thinks thor is safe?

Independant, not Guardian
Basically a version that can be read front to back in less than 5 minutes.