/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

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>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN 2570P, T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:
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>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
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>xsauc buyers guide:
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Dell M4700 GET

don't let it die fags

Just picked up a t430 and an extra 4 gb of ram to make it 8gb. What other upgrades should I do to it? It has the high res screen.

Anyone got experience with msasta SSDs? Whats the downside?

Fourth asking for a list of possible upgrades to a T530 (and how to flash the BIOS)

>16gb
>quadcore ivy
>msata is just a type of connection
>ac wifi with bios flash
>heatsink mod
>*20 keyboard mod
>alienware screen

seeprobably the same stuff plus there's a FHD TN panel that's really good, which I forgot the FRU

Sounds good. Though the quadcore is expensive as fuck. I'll be saving for a while for that.
I watched a video of someone upgrading their t430. I didnt finish watching the video and have lost it but I remember him mentioning the msata SSD was a "mistake". I was worried there would be a mayor downside, other than sata 2 speeds, which are almost imposibile in normal use right?

Could you explain the heatsink mod? I own a T530 with the NVS 5400M
>It's the 1GB version

In your case you've already got it. Apparently the heatsink from the thinkpads with the nvidia chip are better than the non nvidia ones, but the nividia heatsinks fit in the non nvidia thinkpads

* almost impossible to saturate in normal use right?

it will run at sata 2. sequential will be capped.

see

>tfw exposed and using a thinkpad

>x220/x230

>>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN 2570P, T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™
>reccomending HP
>mentioning a HP machine first
>Real ThinkPad Experience to 'Real Business Experience'

Neck yourself after you delete this thread. Don't talk about Huelet Spazard shit again.

>the keyboard on the HP

My netbook had a better keyboard. What the fuck were they thinking?

how does your lap top look like

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>tfw this time it wasn't me who created this thread

2570p with 2560p keyboard is pretty desu.

Why?

we came to the conclusion the 2570p was the superior business laptop

>all business laptops welcome
>hating superior 2570p because it's not a thinkpad

At least compared to the x series

I got (yet again) SVP or PUP locked T60 (I can still boot to windows that was installed in this machine) and I got PUP HP compaq nc4010.

ps. How do you open the dock lock without a key? God fucking damn it what a pain in the ass.

Apologies for not doing my own research thoroughly enough as yet, but I was just curious about the touchpad on my T420. When using two fingers to scroll up/down a webpage it seems rather sensitive and has the tendency to 'jump' up or down as opposed to scrolling smoothly. Is there some kind of fix for this?

How headache inducing would setting up eGPU with an X220 be? I've seen a few accounts where it was an easy plug and play setup but other people saying it took hours of fucking with various shit.

I finally replaced the tn display on my x200 with an HV121WX4-120 AFFS panel. Huge improvement, and it was really easy to do.

tAkE a PiC f@m

compared to the x220/x230

literally plug and play with some thinkpads over expresscard
or
5-10 minutes if you have to dsdt override, if youre not so mentally challenged.

plus you have to shut down the system to connect egpu, and if you want to disconnect it you have to also shut it down.
also no point in using egpu with randy bridge dual cores.

is he, dare I say it?

Hi /tpg/, I just got a T60 without RAM and HDD/SSD for free. Is it worthwhile to upgrade this kind of laptop? What would be a good GNU/Linux distribution for a T60? And how do I fix pic related?

Hello, I was thinking of buying an used t400 but I'm not sure how good it is. Took a look at the specs and noticed that it has a dual core CPU which is utter shit to the x230 I own. Has a better keyboard though. Is it worth it? I want to do basic tasks like programming, surfing the web and occassionaly playing low-end games like World of Warcraft and Diablo 2.

Need a new 15 inch Thinkpad.
I think I opt for P50. Is it a good choice?

It's fine for all those purposes. Penryn is remarkably competent even now that it'll soon be a decade old. Drop an SSD and 8GB of RAM in and you won't have any problems.

>low end gayming
>with t400 igpu
are you retarded?

No my photo, but it looks exactly the same for me after the upgrade.

Any thinkpad that will drive a 4k monitor?

>"I like computers with nipples"
Get a girl, fa/g/.

quad core is worthless if you want to play Dwarf Fortress, though.

First and foremost, the xx20 series keyboard. Modded my T530 a few days ago, feels way better.

oh look, it's the HP fag again

It's a GMA 4500HD so it should be able to run low end games like WoW and D2 just fine. I saw videos of it running GTA 4 on lowest settings and it was pretty wonky but WoW is much less GPU consuming, especially if I'm playing on a private server

probably

Libreboot it, and install a FSF-approved distro on it, like parabola (arch linux, but with only free software).

And what is there to fix in the pic? The color is just the copper plating flaking off, no big deal. just disassemble the part and clean all the flaking bits off really well so they don't fall off and cause a short.

>god awful keyboard
>no middle trackpoint button
>far less support for things like modding
>less spares available
>macOS installations widely done and documented on X2XX machines, not Elitebooks
>only one (1) model of Elitebook is considered any sort of rival against any ThinkPad

The only positive point is that they put a quad core in a 12", ok that's nice, but it does not even begin to make up for the downsides.

And of course, Linux plays much nicer on ThinkPads due to the popularity of them. Still, they remain amazing machines for Hackintosh systems.

Mi rispondete dio bastardo?

posting from MacBook Pro, help me, this keyboard is abysmal holy shit

>opinion
>true, doesn't matter much because you can dedicate superior touchpad to scroll
>lie
>lol, LIE
>lie
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I use my shitpad for most stuff nowadays and want to get rid of my gayman desktop but I have multiple hard drives, what can I do?

build yourself a small home server only for the purpose of sharing drives?

is that a t400?

what would be a good price for the T420 without an hdd?

ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-6GB-320-HDD-NO-OS-/172670575140?hash=item2833f7e224:g:2DsAAOSwfRdZE1dE
Would this be a good price?

>Libreboot it
Just to ask a bit of spoonfeeding. What equipment is required to install libreboot?

lack of brain
enjoy your cpu performance degradation

>lie
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>lack of brain
Fuck, now I look like a iq89. Definitely look forwards to libreboot my T60 now.

It was friday night, /tpg/ was out to get wasted

c/p from the other week about the 2570p for those considering one:

quick hp 2570p review:
-all metal build is great, feels really solid
-screen is as bad as any thinkpad tn from that time, is "fine" for displaying information humans can look at
-pointer is pretty good, no middle button sucks
-trackpad is nicer than x220/x230
-popout keyboard lamp is hilariously useless vs thinklight(tm), but a neat mechanism to ocd fidget with over and over
-keyboard feel isn't any worse than a macbook pro/air, layout is not as good as xx20 or even xx30, motherfuck any kb that makes you fn modify for pg up/dn
-dvd drive in a 12" laptop is pretty cool, will probably put in a caddy though
-bootable esata port is nice, will probably be underused
-laffo @ smartcard slot
-internal accessibility is fucking great, everything is right there under one panel. once everything is repasted, upgraded, etc, everyday usefulness drops pretty quick, but man i won't dread getting in there like i did getting my x220 heatsink off
-broadcom wifi is shit shit shit with [my linux distro of choice]. replaced it with some jobber intel card i had laying around so now it doesn't take 30 seconds to reconnect after standby

it might sound like im shitting on it, but the 2570p is still a hell of a lot better than most laptops. that sata3 raid0 thing the one dude was jerking off over, cpu upgradability, dvd drive, might be enough for some people to overlook the design shortcomings.

final verdict: still prefer my x220, but a fair 2nd place out of all the laptops ive touched. will use as a beater or whenever i feel like mixing it up. might gift it to the next friend whose shitty acer desolders itself

Considering making a FREETARD machine, as my plan is to move to FOSS-stuff permanently.

Which Thinkpad would you recommend for LibreBoot, I mean that has to be the starting point, right?

Currently you can libreboot T400/X200 and T60/X60
X60 is the only one which can be done with a few terminal commands, others need to mess with external flashers I believe, instructions are in libreboot.org

I want a small laptop that I could type on during lectures with good battery life, budget is around 150 eu. Which x series one should I get?

what is a good price for the t420, can it core/libreboot?

>/tpg/ in a nut shell

kek

don't fall for the freetard meme.

But what would be a good price for it without an hdd. Also where can i get spare thinkpad parts

T420 or T410, what should I buy (as my first thinkpad)?

kill yourself. Nobody likes you.
This is why you shitpost 24/7 on this board and shill for lelnovo.

out of those two, T420

Where should i go to buy old thinkpad parts?

I apparently felt it was necessary to disassemble my T420 while I was piss drunk last night. In the process, it looks like I somehow snapped off the little key that lets you lock the disc drive / hd caddy in. Also, when I shake it, it sounds like something tiny is moving around in the disc drive.

Any ideas on how I can put the keylock thing back in? It doesn't look like the plastic is broken, so I'm hoping I can just snap it back in somewhere.

Picture related.

just bought a t420 for 80 bucks, its mild condition but it has a hinge problem that causes it to go to sleep mode when ever i move the screen, did i get jewed

Get whatever is cheap, did you even read the op?
Piss off

But I do have a girl user. She likes clit too

Well, I got the piece back in with tweezers and balancing it on a tiny screwdriver, but now it just wiggles back and forth and doesn't actually do anything. Not sure what is missing that would lend it the ability to actually lock the drive, but oh well.

isn't the screw that locks the ultrabay still in there?

>she

The one I have you just snap in, no screws needed. AFAIK, the only reason the lock key exists is so that when you slide the other button on the back to eject the disc drive, the lock would prevent it from doing so. So it isn't really that necessary.

dont forget
>hotplugable egpu support aka no restarts to plug in your egpu
honestly the 2570p sounds pretty good desu

>popout keyboard lamp is hilariously useless vs thinklight(tm), but a neat mechanism to ocd fidget with over and over
wait what

its there so you dont just shake it out during operation

He forgot about many things. Non-whitelisted wifi slot for example.
also 50% cheaper batteries, hardware charge indicators on the back of every battery, ability to use quad core units with 65W PSUs (unlike every single qc thinkpad, which requires at least 90W or it will be rejected by EC), non-overheating dock with 3xUSB 3.0 ports, 1x2A charging port and esata (vs 1x USB 3.0, 0xcharging port and esata only in special version of dock in case of x230).
Plus, internal unused USB 3.0 headers, so you can actually fit mSATA SSD + 2,5" HDD in one HDD caddy and then connect mSATA normally to SATA and HDD to USB 3.0 and many, many things...

not to mention that wifi whitelist was removed just because some people requested this on hp forums...
Now show me the case where lelnopevovo ever cared about what people's feedback on their forums. KEK

Best method to remove the windows/intel stickers?

Peel them off like you would any other sticker..

uhm, use your fingernails?
Then remove rest of the glue with a warm towel or something.

>ability to use quad core units with 65W PSUs (unlike every single qc thinkpad, which requires at least 90W or it will be rejected by EC)

You have no idea what you're talking about you moron. It has nothing to do with the EC, it literally draws too much power to charge. It WILL charge if it's idle or doing nothing.

its got an led lamp up by the webcam thats supposed to illuminate the keyboard in the same way as the thinkpad, but it seriously does a really, REALLY shitty job. the screen at anything but its lowest display brightness in pitch black overpowers the lamp, and even at that point, it only lights up maybe a third of the keyboard and the keys have some kind of finish that's terrible at reflecting the light. you need to see it in person to really appreciate how bad this lamp is

BUT its got a fun little push button mechanism that pops it out!

you're the only idiot here. 65W is enough to power up non-dgpu t430/2570p. Of course this will stop battery from being charged when the power draw is near PSU limit, but it's totally enough to handle the system.
It's just lelnovo decided to block 65W PSUs just in case. You know, there are W530 users who use special converters to spoof PSU detection by EC just to use 65/90W with dGPU powered off... and I don't hear something not working because of that.

They don't block it dipshit, they just warn you. If you're drawing low power it charges.

no you stupid fuck, T430 doesn't detect 65W PSU if you got a quad core cpu in it.
It does warn in BIOS and power manager you if you got dGPU and the CPU is being throttled down when used anyway. Do your own research before opening your stupid mouth, thinkcuck.

I have one and you're wrong, brainlet.

The only thing you got is your virginity and lack of intelligence. Get fucked.
Please enable your tripcode so I can filter your FUD.

Stay mad fudgepackard shill.

also even IF it did just warn you (which it doesn't, it just rejects 65W PSUs - tested on non-dgpu T430 with i7-3630qm and T530 with same cpu) this means the CPU is being throttled just like in dGPU units. And this means 2570p is superior, because it works with 100% performance with 65W PSU.
Ok, maybe it's not valid for 55W CPUs, but with 45W it's fine.

>goalposting, and still being wrong

That's not how physics works. Filtered.