pcbg/: Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com/
THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
CPUs: >G4560 for budget builds (R5 1500X will keep above 60fps in every game. No i5 >R5 1600 is the best value for higher fps gaming and mixed usage; 1600x if you don't want to OC >i7-7700k is bad value but good; may have heat issues even at stock clocks >R7/Xeon for compute/multitask/mixed use. R5 if budget
Graphics: >G4560 iGPU is fine for LoL, dota2, rocket league, etc >1050Ti/RX560 for ~$105. Must drop settings for 60hz if not Freesync/Gsync on many games. >RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz >RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA and drop settings for some games >1060 - Gets outperformed by the RX 580; consider only if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA) >1070 - usually not worth the extra cost for Gsync >1080 - 1080p@90-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz. >1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings >Freesync2 & Vega soon.
General: >READ PRODUCT REVIEWS on a retailer page to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity as a scratch disk >Stop fucking confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor >mATX is often cheaper as the board+case is usually less >1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs >Good air cooler is almost always wiser than an AIO
got the gpu and motherboard as a package deal 10% off. I mostly do some image editing, some games every now and then. Wanted the option to play newer games that my old pc couldn't handle on anything other than low res. Also didnt want my computer to freeze up when I try to zoome out on a picture I am editing.
good enough?
Dylan Evans
The fuck am I looking at? You just stacking cards as storage? It's good enough, but you may want to wait two weeks. A new card is releasing that should drop prices on 1070-80's. You also have a Z type board for a CPU that you can't overclock.
Robert Price
Oh, and you can get a smaller PSU, and get more RAM. 12-16GiB will do you fine. Aim for higher frequency RAM as well. As per what your mobo can handle.
Isaiah Davis
my galxy s4 camera is dog shit so I stuffed them in there real quick for the picture. I also have a 560ti, i5 2400, i5 2500k, i3 6100, b150 mobo, h110 mobo, sandy bridge mobo, extra 16gb ddr4, 8gb ddr3, hyper 212 all sitting in my closet. I live in a ghetto so craigslist isn't active. Have absolutely no use for them. I have a living room but it's literally empty because i never use it. Never leave my room even though im renting a full house so I cant even like use it as a hptc or something
Ryder Stewart
Just give that shit to kids that wouldn't have a PC. That, or setting up paypal for ebay will take you a week after they transfer the 1-2c into your account.
because the ryzen 5 is out. go for either the ryzen 1600 or 1500x
Aiden Collins
Because the i5 gets 100% cpu usage in most games because of its low core and thread count and that causes stuttering and hiccups all over.
With Ryzen, that doesn't happen because the cpu usage is usally around 50-67% in most games and that also leaves you plenty of room to do other stuff, like shitpost on Sup Forums while you game.
Caleb Rivera
Get a 1800X or 1950X, lower wattage PSU, better RAM, and a less huge gay compensating case.
John Lee
but an i5 is cheaper in my country Ah, thanks man
Henry Turner
How much cheaper? If its like $30 cheaper its not worth it to get an i5.
Ian Lee
plz respond
Jason Walker
Like 176.20 USD cheaper
Justin Sullivan
Oh ok than get the i5.
Colton Hill
haha what. Show us the prices of the i5 and ryzen 5.
What is G4560 prices? You should probably just get that.
Mason Robinson
I want 3D tiddies. What do? Do 3D monitors exist today or are they truly dead and buried? I would get a VR set instead, but I'm still hoping someone get PSVR to run on PC.
Parker Phillips
Hey guys my budget is $900 and i have a gtx 1070 graphic card. What should i parts should i use? In kind of a noob previous console peasant I want to run newer games on high and maybe 4k
Austin Williams
I already have a giant power rangers case with 10 fans and 700w Rosewill psu.
How's this look for an upgrade from my 1055t, r9 270x, 8gb DDR3?
Any 120hz+ monitor can provide 3d with strobing glasses, but it's a meme
Jack Johnson
>what did he mean by this?
I'm not looking for a powerhouse, just a nice budget upgrade using best rated components for my price range.
Isaiah Collins
I'm fine with memes as long I get 3D tiddies really. But I forgot you can get 3D with 120+hz display, thanks.
What should I do to get the right glasses? It seems there's several types
Landon Young
I've got a pair of G.Skill ripjaws V series 8 GB DDR4-3200, and a MSI Tomahawk B350.
Whenever I try to put the two ram sticks together, the mobo fails to POST. It turns on, flashes the CPU debug light, and turns on, all in instants. It works fine with only one stick though, albeit only at most at 2667MHz.
My mobo is still with its default BIOS. Did this problem get fixed with any BIOS updates? Or will I be still stuck with only one 8GB stick after the update?
Dominic Powell
Every time I see this Dragon as the /pcbg/ image, my day brightens a bit. He's just so cute.
Gabriel Reed
>and turns on I mean, it turns turns off, and then turns on again, repeating the process until I cut the power.
Adrian Sullivan
Nevermind, I found a good article about 3D glasses. Ok, now to find a good 120hz display with good color range
Colton Adams
I heard that glasses-free 3D is coming. Glasses, especially dark tinted ones, killed 3D.
Though that board has decent BIOS, and dual BIOS is a nice feature, its VRMs are super shit. Like, literally the worst. And the GPU is overkill for 1080p 60hz. Just get an RX570 4GB. Preferably a good one like the Red Devil. And I'd get the MX300 or SU800 over that SSD. I'm not sure why you chose that one. That price for 240GB isn't exactly great.
Joshua Murphy
Aww.
Aiden Hall
> using best rated components for my price range.
Which is exactly what it is. That is the current go-to cookie cutter high performance but not wallet raping build. Nothing stands out as amazing and nothing is a bad choice.
My only advice is to make sure your ram is on your mobos QVL if you want it to run at anything over 2666mhz unless you want to gamble on the may AGESA providing compatability.
Eli Watson
I made that list a few weeks ago. The price of the SSD must've changed since then. Good point on the 570.
>nothing is a bad choice This is basically what I was looking for. Been about 6 years since I've had a new system so I'm having to research all the new tech.
Carson Foster
1090T RX 480 how 2 upgrade without spending new pc money on just a cpu
why does getting a new gen cpu cost so much fucking ddr4 who gives a shit its the same shit as 3
Carson Collins
? It doesn't cost much. You can get a 1600+board+RAM for under $400.
Gabriel Bailey
what's with i5s not being enough for games? I thought consoles had super weak CPUs so how can they run the games but not i5s?
Josiah Taylor
Would a 520w psu be enough for a 1500x plus a rx 570?
Elijah Turner
Consoles are more optimized than PCs when it comes to gaming. Also jaguar cpus have more cores than an i5.
Kayden Powell
this dilemma is still tearing me apart (because of tight budget of course) i thought i will by ryzen 5 1600 but it can't work without gpu and now i think to buy locked i7 7700 and use igpu for a while (i want to buy gtx 1060 later). why i7? because i think it will last longer also i might utilize it guys, is i7 with an igpu for a couple of months is a bad idea? maybe ryzen is so must have that i should not even consider it. hoping for the replies..
Cameron Scott
but aren't the cores in an i5 way faster than a jaguar?
Wyatt Rivera
but thats way too much the 1090T with ram and a mb was almost half that i would stop being poor but my job and the economy wont let me
Grayson Howard
For software dev i'd go with R5 1600(x) which compils noticeably faster (as expected of a 2 cores cpu)
I mainly use the computer for video editing, after effects and 3D applications. I do play games from time to time but that's not the reason why I got it.
I'm in Canada, any advice is welsome
Ethan Baker
Yes, but that doesn't matter when most games released today are unoptimized garbage.
Samuel Martinez
>$746.75 for 6 cores
Kek As expected of a fucking leaf.
Hudson Cook
That is the worst most overpriced PC I've ever seen what the fuck are you doing At least 970 for applications won't be as bad as it is for gaming.
can i trust these benchmarks? because now i don't want to go for intel at all.. - me
Luke Nguyen
Consoles run most games at 30fps. An i5 will certainly give you more than that, but it doesn't quite manage consistent 60fps in many games - especially if you're not running in benchmark conditions, with everything other than the game closed.
Caleb Hill
Badly Get an R7 1700. Costs $325, offers 8 cores 16 threads, outperforms your shit at anything you quoted. The liquid cooling isn't really needed, though you can keep it if you want. $780 motherboard what the fuck That PSU is also way overkill
No, a 4 cores CPU that hits 75+% usage in game isn't going to last longer than a 6 cores ones that hits 50% in same games And if we're talking outside gaming, there is not even a doubt any more. 6 cores > 4 core all days
Ian Watson
thank you friend. now i decided to go for ryzen 100%, will wait a little but it will be worth it
Henry Ross
Will windows automatically download MOBO drivers? Should I still go online and get the latest ones for (chipset, audio, ect)?
Austin Anderson
X79 Motherboard with a 3930K is dying. (Not my computer, it's a custom build from a shop a relative got bullied into in 2012) What can I replace it with? X99 seems to be incompatible and not a single shop sells X79 boards anymore. The only one I found was from the UK for 600 euros.
Thinking about putting in an AMD 1600, but re-buying DDR4 RAM (32GB) doubles the price of CPU+Motherboard and it feels rather bad throwing out an intel 6-core.
It's a work computer mostly used for photoshop and other batch image viewing/editing shenanigans.
What do I do? Would the 1600 be an okayish choice? Or should I get some older i5/7 that still works with DDR3? I'd rather get a cheaper CPU/Motherboard now and upgrade more often (with DDR4 in 2-3 years still being a thing hopefully) than buying some 2000 euro CPU now which is obsolete in 3 years.
Angel Brown
pls respond.
Leo Myers
Hello, I need advice on my first build ever. Reading a few of these threads brought me to parts included (not listed is cooler, hdd, psu, case). Is this a good build? I plan to OC, do some programming, general MT and gaming at 1080p. Also, why is this mobo cheaper than the other X options?
Lucas Turner
do not buy PULSE version of this gpu. buy nitro or msi model
Austin Lopez
Thank you for the advice, that build is over a year old. I can assure you it was around 2100 when I got it.
Realistically though outside of a few niche cases anything other than the 6900k is a waste of time. If you NEED the extra I/O x99 provides then sure, but otherwise zen invalidates it. I wonder how AMD will price naples - having 16c/32t for 1000 dorra would be a kick in the balls Intel would struggle to respond to.
Nathaniel Cox
Why would you re-buy ram?
You tried setting 2400MHz speed then putting the second stick? Anyway, do update to second latest bios. Latest one contains agesa update which removed some of the workaround that had been added to improve RAM overclock, so you'll get less luck with it.
Chase Foster
I find it funny that you're better off buying a second hand pc for half this price rather than buying this piece of shit (the cheapest)
Look in the top right corner if you still can't find it it's the X button
Jonathan Fisher
What's the best motherboard for an R5 1600 that's not a shitload if I don't want to overclock
Isaiah Reed
wow that game looks ugly tha future all buildings have the same neon light outlines except in different colors xDDDD
Ryder Myers
gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 or ab350-d3h asrock ab350 pro this is my opinion after reading specs and watching some reviews
Kayden Gonzalez
>xDDDD Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Grayson Kelly
I know you're just shitposting, but that's pretty much what modern day Hong Kong is.
Jonathan Roberts
Trying to help my friend get a new PC for basic web browsing and office work to replace his 2008 single core trashbox. Normally I prefer building my own PCs but looking at the prices of some of these prebuilts it seems hard to compete.
microcenter.com/product/474800/Aspire_ATC-780A-UR12_Desktop_Computer This has a i5 7400, 8GB RAM and a 2TB HDD for only $430. The i5 7400 would cost like $180 alone. Is it possible to build something this good for less than this? I think buying this and slapping a $50 SSD in there is the way to go.
Xavier Rodriguez
>2 No. The lights are different. It's not the same outline with the same length and shit. and the buildings aren't all black. They're various light and dark greys, with various warmth or coolness to the lighting. Looks much better.
Luke Bell
>need basic web browsing box to replace single core shitbox >overpriced i5 Read the OP.
Luke Ramirez
What's the CPU to go with 1080 these days?
Blake Myers
>60376148 Your shitposts are so bad you don't even deserve a (You)
Jordan Harris
For just 60fps? 1500X is ideal. It consistently stays over 60fps except in the few things that will also drop a 7700 down like FO4 and Arma3. But most people will recommend just getting a 1600 and overclocking even though it's more than you need, since it's only like $40 more for 50% better performance.
Oliver Cooper
Why get the X370 if you're not running SLI?
Daniel Watson
r5 1600 / 7700k
Chase Cook
Something like that is overkill if all he does is web browsing and office crap. $60 pentium, cheap H110 mobo, 250W PSU and 8GB of RAM doesn't really cost anywhere near as much and will be completely sufficient for his needs.
