Fuck EU

eff.org/deeplinks/2017/05/secret-new-european-copyright-proposal-spells-disaster-free-culture

Wtf is this?
>The losers from this proposal are fourfold. Perhaps the biggest losers are the creators themselves, who will face new barriers between their art and their fans and collaborators. The streaming services will also lose out, as they will face higher expenses and will no longer be able to operate non-commercially even if they only carry freely licensed content. Fans, of course, will suffer because of the reduced legal availability of free music and video online. And even the copyright industry will suffer, as the increased costs of legal streaming services may cause creators and fans to shift back to peer to peer file sharing, where copyright infringing works are also exchanged.
Yeah, sure, we are going to make tremendous bullshit law like data retention directive, we'll just force everyone into no-brain fuckery how our masters play. Puppets. And no awakening on horizon.

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>And no awakening on horizon.
>tfw I voted Leave

UK sucks even more, there's no way for you to escape economical politics. Leave or stay: I can't say what's worse..

>eurofugees
>>oh no we don't need guns the government would never do bad things

>eurofugees moments later
>>help us the government is doing bad things

>eurofugees
>>hate speech isn't free speech the government can ban what it wants

>also eurofugees
>>help us the government is banning things I like now

Guns won't solve that - just how delusional are you?

>literally lives in a dictatorship where unelected officials are banning free content on behalf of predator multinationals
>w-why would you e-ever n-need g-guns

>copyright
>intellectual property
>non-free licenses
It's almost like someone has worked their entire life to warn people about this shit and nobody listened. Hmm.

yeah cause if we had guns (and could use them) we'd surely go and show those EU king merchants right?
no

So what possible reason do they have to make it unwaiveable? Why do they assume no one wants their work to spread for the sake of spreading their message?

You're right, we should just sit here and take it instead. That is a much more sensible solution.

hey, at least you got millions of africans and muslims to compensate for these shit laws, rite?

guns solve everything. and it keeps in check those in power.

enjoy further descent into a police state as more and more nutjobs drive your people over with trucks and shit and all you retards are unable to stop them because of your "libtard values".

tl;dr: eat shit and kys.

>Europe
>Guy with truck kills 3 people

>Murrica
>Guy with gun kills 50 people

>>Guy with truck kills 3 people

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack
87 (including the perpetrator)[2][3]

quit wasting time on Sup Forums. go back to studying arabic and praying to aloha.

Currenyly the police is only allowed to intervene if copyright holders request it. They want to change this so that streaming would be only legal if certain conditions are met, which should give police more room to operate in.

>clapistanian
>try to revolt
>if army is against you then they'll mow you down with superior equipment and tactics
>if army supports you then you don't need guns for anything

So a website streams freely licensed videos, for free, which the authors are 100% okay with them doing, and the police should intervene in this case? Who's being protected here? Who's asking for this?

>Currently the police is only allowed to intervene if copyright holders request it. They want to change this so that streaming would be only legal if certain conditions are met, which should give police more room to operate in.
So it'll turn into youtube take down notices, but with actual police. Wonderful.

>UK
>thinks he's better off
Hilarious.

Shouldn't that be "Hillaryous"?

How's shit like this even happening? Why aren't the people who stand to lose lobbying like mad?

They will lodge their protests from rooftops or behind the wheel.

I cannot wait until we abandon the current internet for a distributed non-centralized internet that cannot be controlled or monitored.

>we'd surely go and show those EU king merchants
Why not? There is no better way to empower your population.

The EU is not a democratic institution.

Funny you say that. The US is turning into a police State, too.

Or used. The ones in power will just block it.

Pretty sure that's how the US got its independence

>read misleading title
>dont read the article
>spout bullshit

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE BEFORE YOU COMMENT, RETARDS

1. Member States shall ensure that, when authors and performers transfer or assign the right of making available to the public of their works or other subject-matter for online on-demand services, they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration derived from the direct exploitation of their works present in the catalogue of those services.

2. The right of an author or performer to obtain fair remuneration for the making available of his/her work as described in paragraph 1 cannot be waived.

It literally just says that the author always retains the rights to monetize their work, regardless of license. How does this change anything?

>Cannot be waived
What part of this do you not understand? It straight up tries to invalidate commons licenses.

>release something under a license to everyone permitting them to share it freely
>streaming sites can't share it freely without paying anyway, even if you don't want to collect a cent
>streaming sites don't share it

Why aren't Americans using their guns to keep their politicians in check?
>But Trump is acting how I want him to
How about during the Obama years then, assuming you disliked what he was doing? There was plenty to be displeased with when he was around anyway, even if you liked him.

Just admit it, you don't want guns because they'll keep others in their place. You just want them because they look cool and you like firing them, and not a whole lot more.

during obongo years, americans bought millions upon millions of guns. they were too scared to fuck with gun owners after that.

stay cucked, mohammed.

Guns only show up in political situations when people feel their issue cannot be solved peaceably through the system, it's not about chimping out every time there's a political disagreement you fucking subhuman.

...

>not knowing about deterrence theory
you brought this on yourself

No fuck EU!

I'd just like to interject for a moment. You appear to be using an element from this image in your post: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Richard_Stallman_by_Anders_Brenna_01.jpg
You may have done this accidentally, but you've violated the terms of its copyright license. This is a serious offense and I hope you take it as seriously as it deserves.
Not to say that you're not allowed to create derived works from this image, you are, but this picture is released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Norway license. Therefor, you are free:

to share - to copy, distribute and transmit the work;
to remix - to adapt the work;

Under the following condition:

attribution - You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

In this case, the attribution requirement is resolved simply by including the following in your post:

Anders Brenna [CC BY 3.0 no (creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/no/deed.en)], via Wikimedia Commons

Now that you have read this, I hope you have a better understanding of your rights and obligations when remixing and sharing this work. They will let you edit, now be nice and credit~

The future is horrible

Is it true that a free Kekistan is not in the interest of the United States and/or Israel? Would an unironical declaration of independence result in "bringing democracy" to Kekistan by one of the usual methods?

underageb8

This is at least as bad:
eff.org/deeplinks/2016/11/users-around-world-reject-europes-upload-filtering-proposal

If they push stuff like this through, it's time to go rogue forreals.

Artist should get paid for their work faggot

They should take it up with the distributors who are jewing them out of their money.

So it's about abolishing "fair use"?

The revolution cannot come soon enough.

>army is against the people
>usa
Try again. Ex armyfags usually just join buttsex militias

Stallmab, we gnu-eed you

The West is a cesspool. Learn to speak Russian. It's a developing country with a lot of potential.

>meanwhile in the islamic caliphate of bongistan

Normies never listen. B-but h-he eats stuff from his feet!

WAKE ME UP

> >20% of muslims
>a lot of potential

How is Russia going to cope with islamization? Birth rates of ethnic Russians are low as fuck, they don't want to join the army and pay not to, while muslims living in Russia do the opposite, they will pay to join the army. How is this going to end well?

>UK is even worse
I dont think any of you understand the problem with this
In the UK, we have a democracy. If a government where to introduce this, they could be voted out in favour of a government who will scrap those laws
The EU has no such democracy

You meant current state of things is horrible.

>Theresa May
>unelected
Yeah.

>posts the supposed results without posting the proposal
Yeah, nice clickbait you shill
Go back to

>unelected
Have you been living under a rock?
We're having an election in under a month mate

So when she was pm she was elected or have any mandate other than ignorance of people?

On pol I would have to praise that shit, you know, swamp ego plays. They love it, I hate it.

It doesnt matter when she was PM. There's an election coming up, you cant call her unelected when she's calling an election

I can call her election caller, but not elected when she was making descisions without any proper mandate.

Which she is now getting by calling a fucking election

I know clicking links is hard, so here, I'll spoon feed you.
politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Directive.pdf

>If a government where to introduce this, they could be voted out in favour
No, they would not. UK is a country full of sheep, remember when they introduced the anti-loli law? Or maybe the law that puts you 10 years to jail if you torrent? Or the law that allows them to put you to jail if you have anything that they consider as encrypted and you don't supply them with a key?

>They wouldnt vote for this
>remember, the UK dont like pedo's
Whats your point?

The EU parliament is elected.

That you should kill yourself after you pray to Allah for the health of the queen?

>Member States shall ensure that, when authors and performers transfer or assign the right of making available to the public of their works or other subject-matter for online on-demand services, they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration derived from the direct exploitation of their works present in the catalogue of those services.

Literally nothing.
All it says is that artists should have a way to make money from their work if they choose.

As a yuropean actually I think everyone should be legally -required- to have a gun.

You are retarded.

They can't choose.

>they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration
I have the right to eat pineapples every day but I don't have to exercise it.

>required
You are no other than those assholes up ass.

>will face higher expenses and will no longer be able to operate non-commercially even if they only carry freely licensed content.

What the actual fuck eu?

I'm sorry but I think that if everyone has a gun, babies will be able to defend themselves against crazy moms.

You MUST those PINNACLES REEEEEEEĀ”

You know, it'd be nice if that kinda stuff could be embedded into files. The end user doesn't need to know about the licenses and attributions, it gets attributed just by existinh, and those interested could fond out easily. Just like with a porn artist signing their work ensures you don't need to provide sauce because it's already there

Metadata can easily be stripped.

Just how Londoners votes a kebab as mayor

>How will Russia deal with islamization
Never in Russian history have there been problematic minorities, or classes, that have been problematic to the authority. How ever will they pull through? I guess they could come up with some kind of a 5-year plan to handle the situation.

By licensing something under the CC-BY license basically you waive your rights to seek compensation from licensees as long as they adhere to the requirements of the license.

>hey we can spy on anyone but not on us politicans ok!!!!!!!!


Is that means that spotify will be more expensive??

> Wtf is this?
The to-be-expected continued lobbying of the copyright mafia.

This was attempted multiple times before and has partly succeeded because ultimately, EU representatives do not seem to be looking out for the people but seem quite subjective to professional lobbyists from "their" or the EU industry. They even put them in committees that prepare proposals like this.

>tfw your country was free from all this bullshit
>tfw they begged to enter the EU because they've been absolute cucks for the last ~500 years

Having EU market and Schengen and academic access and so on is nice. Your country probably wants that?

And the EU welfare money, the eastern balkan trash lives off on that even tho their politicians pocket 80% of it

LMAOing @ these peasants.
t. GCHQ

I guess that's part of it, too?

But I think at most ~0.5% of GDP is paid by any EU nation, though I guess on the receiving end it may be 5% of GDP it's probably not what Eastern Europe really wants.

They'd kinda like to have 100% of the paying nation's GDP, and obviously not as welfare money but just as their GDP. And for that, they will almost certainly need the market access to trade.

what said, what's the point of it if it's barely used
it isn't getting any better

This jewish fuckpile EU conglomerate needs to die in a fire.
Fuck those globalist kikes.

>killing tyrants won't solve anything

Right, because all these tyrannical measures fall out of thin fucking air and implement themselves.

That actually sounds good.

>Who's being protected here?

Nobody, they just need excuses to suppress free speech.

I hope those mesh nets are ready, we're going to need them.

Actually on second thought this just means that you are still free to let people use your works, bit at any time you have the right to ask for compensation if you feel like doing so.

This just means if your release something under GPL you cannot revoke your decision if you regret it, but with the new system you may change your mind and ask money either way.

For example you could choose to request a compensation of 0$.

This poses an even more interesting question, this law is actually to protect the people NOT corporations.

Since a company cannot give me a contract anymore where they force me to sign that I give up all my copyright related right so they can profit of it with more shekels.

Even better if they ever fire me and I wrote a lot of code for example I could demand fair compensation for the amount of code I have written. Or sue them if they are not willing to do so. They would have to rewrite a large of the code if they wanted to do so.

I believe there are also lower taxes in profits brought in by copyright.

Jeezes Christ this law has huge consequences. It would mean that a company is not owned anymore by one Shlomo Shekelberg but by anybody who gave creative input for said company.

This is just going to legitimise piracy again.
I don't see the issue.

You voted for taxation without representation. You still need to follow EU regulations when doing business with them.

>This proposal has come from the Committee on Culture and Education (CULT).
(((They're))) not even hiding it anymore

The CAN share it freely.

You can still make your stuff freely available. But if at some point you decide to monetize it, you can monetize it from that point on.

Nobody is forcing anyone to pay anything.

This literally doesn't change anything, apart from protecting creators from being fucked over by 50-page license agreements on shady sites.